OT: Job market

Salvi's Headband

All-American
Oct 30, 2006
5,569
9,436
0
Is this a new phenomenon ? Seems layoffs have occurred in 70’s’ 80’s 90’s 2000’s and now again. Maybe just maybe companies are realizing their employee bloat and not tariffs are the reason? Many here who are totally against these tariffs prefer the country going bankrupt? Your 401k’s won’t be worth two sh—-ts in that scenario regardless. Or do you not subscribe to the thinking that the USA has been screwed over by other countries because those in charge were basically happy just rolling along? Good Luck … the guy with the Engineering degrees will be just fine. It is one field where jobs will still be in demand.

Lol. Lmfao even.
 

Jtung230

Heisman
Jun 30, 2005
19,240
12,384
82
Who needs to pay for prem when you can post all the CE here. Hope OP’s friend’s son find something fast. In my field, companies are still hesitant to hire. We got out to a fast start but slammed on the brakes after the tariff news causing market volatility in the bond market.
 

JerseyNoles

All-Conference
Jul 28, 2021
2,841
2,425
3
Thanks for all the Political BS folks. How about a connection for a potential job?
LinkedIn
Recruiters
Indeed
Friends
Social connections (clubs/fraternity, etc.)

These options have always been beneficial for me
 

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
89,226
87,178
113
Thanks for all the Political BS folks. How about a connection for a potential job?
There are multiple posts on this. I provided two. Didn't get reply or even get a like to fuel an endorphin rush. Will take my prescription instead.
Had asked if the individual is wedded to NJ. If so, that makes it tougher for him. Way, way, way back, fresh out of law school in the 1990s, the job market sucked. We won't review which party was in party and who we can blame for that terrible economy, but as we do here, I digress. We took the only reasonable job offered in Cincinnati, OH. We hated there. A lot. My better half was terribly homesick. But I leveraged that job to get a great job in NYC paying big bucks-the type of job every attorney dreams of. And I hated that life more than I hated life in Cincinnati. I don't know how people who commute on a daily basis 1 -1.5 hours each way to NYC do it. Quit that job in a little over a year.

The point, if there is one, is sometimes a short term move to keep your resume from having long gaps can be worthwhile. If the person has a home, family, children, that is not easy. My moves early on were before we had children.

But your post raises a good point-this board is a cesspool, which is why I and many others stopped posting on a regular basis. I'm back for a little bit, but the continued derailing of threads into politics, finger pointing, gaslighting, ball busting is terrible here. Have been much happier since cutting back on my time posting here.

LinkedIn
Recruiters
Indeed
Friends
Social connections (clubs/fraternity, etc.)

These options have always been beneficial for me
These are good suggestions. Especially the social connections and LinkedIn.
We have found good candidates through ZipRecruiter, maybe worth posting there.
 

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
89,226
87,178
113
Friends son gets laid off from Major Telecom firm in NJ due to a force reduction.

He's an Engineer with a Masters in EE.

Kids an Eagle Scout great all around extremely bright personable etc.

Can't find a job in NJ. is the economy really this bad?

Anyone have any contacts would be appreciated...
One other suggestion. Have him consider taking the the USPTO patent agent exam. The patent field is fairly recession proof, contrary to what I said above. Once you have a few years under your belt, you are very marketable. Patent agents/attorneys with EE backgrounds are always in extremely high demand.

We have a PhD working for us now going to school at night at Seton Hall. Loves what she is doing. Bright future ahead. We can't find enough good people to handle the work we have.

 

RULoyal

Heisman
Jul 28, 2001
15,610
18,963
113
Have a relative that was laid off by a large software development company/marketing company in Feb ‘23. Just finally got a job in November ‘24 in state govt IT department. They can’t believe how behind the times the department is, the lack of productivity, the lack of efficiency and when my relative tries to bring up suggestions on how to make improvements they get “that’s not how we do it here”. Definitely not their dream job.
 

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
89,226
87,178
113
Not sure if any of you have been to the Dallas area in the past few years but it’s basically a giant job generating machine. Drive from the airport towards Plano Texas. It’ll shock you. Dallas is just one giant job stealing Mecca of northern jobs and tons of foreign entities have huge operations there. It’s wild. It’s not that the job market stinks. It’s that your jobs are going to Dallas, charlotte and Nashville. The JP Morgan building in Plano Texas is enormous. Like scary huge.

I was in charlotte last year and there is a giant Honeywell skyscraper. Yup. The same Honeywell that had jobs on New Jersey. They are now jobs in charlotte. Also the Dallas area is garbage, narcissistic consumerism America at its worst. Would never live there.

I live in Pittsburgh and we just lost a corporate headquarters to Dallas and another is trying to leave. Its sucks.

Charlotte and Nashville I don’t mind.
I read your post to someone working for our small LLC who relocated to Dallas a little over a year ago. We were scratching our heads and laughing hard at your statement: "Also the Dallas area is garbage, narcissistic consumerism America at its worst. Would never live there." For like ten minutes, we were like WTAF. This guy, his wife and young child LOVE Dallas. No state income tax. Booming economy. Beautiful suburbs. Maybe you have some boots on the ground experience, maybe not. But hard for you to judge, living a Pittsburgh of all places. Not a knock on Pittsburgh. I think it is a cool city. Hoped my one kid was going to go to CMU. But c'mon, taking a shot at other cities from Pittsburgh?

As @newell138 pointed out, there are many reasons why people and corporations are fleeing NJ in droves. It is not a business friendly state. This is nothing political. As just one small example of how ridiculous NJ is when it comes to business-we have run out of room on our small break room walls to post all the nonsensical crap NJ requires to be posted to inform employees of "their rights." Each new posting includes a warning that if we don't post it, we will be fined heavily and/or thrown into Rahway State prison (that's a joke) for life. I get it. Employee rights are important. We treat our people well. We have very few people leave because we treat them well. But c'mon, we are a professional office. Do we really need to post a poster on child trafficking and child labor?
 
  • Like
Reactions: RU2131

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
89,226
87,178
113
Have a relative that was laid off by a large software development company/marketing company in Feb ‘23. Just finally got a job in November ‘24 in state govt IT department. They can’t believe how behind the times the department is, the lack of productivity, the lack of efficiency and when my relative tries to bring up suggestions on how to make improvements they get “that’s not how we do it here”. Definitely not their dream job.
Whenever I log onto the MyNJ website to check my firefighting credentials, I laugh, thinking - are they running this site on DOS 0.5? 😄
 

JerseyNoles

All-Conference
Jul 28, 2021
2,841
2,425
3
There are multiple posts on this. I provided two. Didn't get reply or even get a like to fuel an endorphin rush. Will take my prescription instead.
Had asked if the individual is wedded to NJ. If so, that makes it tougher for him. Way, way, way back, fresh out of law school in the 1990s, the job market sucked. We won't review which party was in party and who we can blame for that terrible economy, but as we do here, I digress. We took the only reasonable job offered in Cincinnati, OH. We hated there. A lot. My better half was terribly homesick. But I leveraged that job to get a great job in NYC paying big bucks-the type of job every attorney dreams of. And I hated that life more than I hated life in Cincinnati. I don't know how people who commute on a daily basis 1 -1.5 hours each way to NYC do it. Quit that job in a little over a year.

The point, if there is one, is sometimes a short term move to keep your resume from having long gaps can be worthwhile. If the person has a home, family, children, that is not easy. My moves early on were before we had children.

But your post raises a good point-this board is a cesspool, which is why I and many others stopped posting on a regular basis. I'm back for a little bit, but the continued derailing of threads into politics, finger pointing, gaslighting, ball busting is terrible here. Have been much happier since cutting back on my time posting here.


These are good suggestions. Especially the social connections and LinkedIn.
We have found good candidates through ZipRecruiter, maybe worth posting there.
Zip is also very good
Part of the issue, like mentioned on here previously, is that AI automatically filters out certain qualified candidates

While AI is good in a lot of aspects, there's a human side that cannot be correlated to the computer which is lost when AI is prevalent
I assume resume writing services will now be in demand a lot more in order to go to the top of the "AI line" when submitting resumes
 

CERU00

All-Conference
Feb 10, 2005
3,626
1,677
0
it is a shame he flinched when China slapped back.

And no- Trump is never transparent...He tells you what you want to hear at that moment.
Sometimes. With tariffs, it's clear. Are there some tactical maneuvering and pivoting as he tests the waters? Sure. I also forgot to mention, another motivation, as if it was needed, is China's poisoning of Americans with fentanyl. There is no doubt this is intentional. Every move the CCP makes is well orchestrated. This is no doubt part of their payback for the humiliation of the opium wars.
 

fg7321

All-American
Nov 29, 2009
4,294
5,176
48
There are multiple posts on this. I provided two. Didn't get reply or even get a like to fuel an endorphin rush. Will take my prescription instead.
Had asked if the individual is wedded to NJ. If so, that makes it tougher for him. Way, way, way back, fresh out of law school in the 1990s, the job market sucked. We won't review which party was in party and who we can blame for that terrible economy, but as we do here, I digress. We took the only reasonable job offered in Cincinnati, OH. We hated there. A lot. My better half was terribly homesick. But I leveraged that job to get a great job in NYC paying big bucks-the type of job every attorney dreams of. And I hated that life more than I hated life in Cincinnati. I don't know how people who commute on a daily basis 1 -1.5 hours each way to NYC do it. Quit that job in a little over a year.

The point, if there is one, is sometimes a short term move to keep your resume from having long gaps can be worthwhile. If the person has a home, family, children, that is not easy. My moves early on were before we had children.

But your post raises a good point-this board is a cesspool, which is why I and many others stopped posting on a regular basis. I'm back for a little bit, but the continued derailing of threads into politics, finger pointing, gaslighting, ball busting is terrible here. Have been much happier since cutting back on my time posting here.


These are good suggestions. Especially the social connections and LinkedIn.
We have found good candidates through ZipRecruiter, maybe worth posting there.
Sorry missed that amongst the 100 political posts . Appreciate the help
 

Panthergrowl13

All-Conference
Nov 11, 2002
13,332
1,718
0
I haven’t felt this negative about the U.S. economy and Rutgers basketball in a very long time:

Ray Dalio, the billionaire founder of the world’s largest hedge fund, Bridgewater Associates, saidin a Sunday interview with NBC News: “Right now we are at a decision-making point and very close to a recession, and I’m worried about something worse than a recession if this isn’t handled well.”

Lawrence Summers, the former Treasury Secretary during President Bill Clinton’s term, said in a Monday editorial podcast in The New York Times he believes it’s “six in 10 or better that a recession will start this year,” explaining: “The pause is certainly better than if we had simply charged along on the catastrophic path that we’re on, but anybody who thinks the genie is back in the bottle and that it’s all now OK should reconsider their position.”

Last week, Summers predicted such a downturn would leave an additional 2 million Americans unemployed, a more than 28% increase from the 7.1 million unemployed Americans in March, and a $5,000 or greater decline in annual household income.


Al I also saw the Ray Dalio interview and his thoughts/comments were very concerning.

Don't want to get into a political debate about this subject (stock market, inflation, recession) because the actual results will take some time to manifest itself and then it will be clear to everyone.

The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, passed in 1930 and signed by President Hoover, significantly increased tariffs in the US, sparking a global trade war and exacerbating the great depression. It was primarily intended to protect American Farmers and Manufactures from foreign competition but it utimately back fired leading to a sharp decline in international trade.

Hoping Smoot-Hawley 2 works out better.

Some parts of the US economy will be impacted immediately and will take a few months to show up. For example tourism, I am reading many citizens from many Europeans countries and Canada are cancelling vacations to the US (particularly Canadians who are also not buying US cars, booze and other US products).

As another poster pointed out the US carries a lot of debt and relies on many countries to finance the debt (bonds,treasuries etc).
If countries refuse or limit future consumption/buying of US debt it will also have a significant affect on the US economy.

Again don't want to be a part of a political debate but some concern for the US economy going forward.

Hope for the best.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 

fg7321

All-American
Nov 29, 2009
4,294
5,176
48
There are multiple posts on this. I provided two. Didn't get reply or even get a like to fuel an endorphin rush. Will take my prescription instead.
Had asked if the individual is wedded to NJ. If so, that makes it tougher for him. Way, way, way back, fresh out of law school in the 1990s, the job market sucked. We won't review which party was in party and who we can blame for that terrible economy, but as we do here, I digress. We took the only reasonable job offered in Cincinnati, OH. We hated there. A lot. My better half was terribly homesick. But I leveraged that job to get a great job in NYC paying big bucks-the type of job every attorney dreams of. And I hated that life more than I hated life in Cincinnati. I don't know how people who commute on a daily basis 1 -1.5 hours each way to NYC do it. Quit that job in a little over a year.

The point, if there is one, is sometimes a short term move to keep your resume from having long gaps can be worthwhile. If the person has a home, family, children, that is not easy. My moves early on were before we had children.

But your post raises a good point-this board is a cesspool, which is why I and many others stopped posting on a regular basis. I'm back for a little bit, but the continued derailing of threads into politics, finger pointing, gaslighting, ball busting is terrible here. Have been much happier since cutting back on my time posting here.


These are good suggestions. Especially the social connections and LinkedIn.
We have found good candidates through ZipRecruiter, maybe worth posting there.
Its NJ for now. Wife has great job and her family is here so can't move right now
 
Jan 12, 2015
39,055
39,111
113
Al I also saw the Ray Dalio interview and his thoughts/comments were very concerning.

Don't want to get into a political debate about this subject (stock market, inflation, recession) because the actual results will take some time to manifest itself and then it will be clear to everyone.

The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, passed in 1930 and signed by President Hoover, significantly increased tariffs in the US, sparking a global trade war and exacerbating the great depression. It was primarily intended to protect American Farmers and Manufactures from foreign competition but it utimately back fired leading to a sharp decline in international trade.

Hoping Smoot-Hawley 2 works out better.

Some parts of the US economy will be impacted immediately and will take a few months to show up. For example tourism, I am reading many citizens from many Europeans countries and Canada are cancelling vacations to the US (particularly Canadians who are also not buying US cars, booze and other US products).

As another poster pointed out the US carries a lot of debt and relies on many countries to finance the debt (bonds,treasuries etc).
If countries refuse or limit future consumption/buying of US debt it will also have a significant affect on the US economy.

Again don't want to be a part of a political debate but some concern for the US economy going forward.

Hope for the best.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Smoot-Hawley in the 1930s is about as relevant to today's global economic conditions as the buggy whip is to Tesla.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bac2therac

Panthergrowl13

All-Conference
Nov 11, 2002
13,332
1,718
0

JerseyNoles

All-Conference
Jul 28, 2021
2,841
2,425
3
Its NJ for now. Wife has great job and her family is here so can't move right now
I hear that (sans the great job part, excluding benefits & job security)
Best advice is to keep at it - great part about living in NJ is there's a plethora of opportunities within a 90-mile radius - key like always though is to find the best option

Would try the aforementioned ideas, as well as reach out to your network of previous colleagues/co workers
Often times, opportunities arise when you least expect them

CIP, I was in a job I didn't care for when our daughter was born
While in the hospital, in between her naps and feeding time, on a whim (and tired AF), I reached out to an old buddy I knew for 30 years re. his company

It took me nearly a decade, but finally, I was able to work for him, at that very same company, all b/c of a simple late-night email that I only really wrote b/c I was sleep deprived and figured "what the hell"
 
Jun 7, 2001
36,304
43,595
113
Al I also saw the Ray Dalio interview and his thoughts/comments were very concerning.

Don't want to get into a political debate about this subject (stock market, inflation, recession) because the actual results will take some time to manifest itself and then it will be clear to everyone.

The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act, passed in 1930 and signed by President Hoover, significantly increased tariffs in the US, sparking a global trade war and exacerbating the great depression. It was primarily intended to protect American Farmers and Manufactures from foreign competition but it utimately back fired leading to a sharp decline in international trade.

Hoping Smoot-Hawley 2 works out better.

Some parts of the US economy will be impacted immediately and will take a few months to show up. For example tourism, I am reading many citizens from many Europeans countries and Canada are cancelling vacations to the US (particularly Canadians who are also not buying US cars, booze and other US products).

As another poster pointed out the US carries a lot of debt and relies on many countries to finance the debt (bonds,treasuries etc).
If countries refuse or limit future consumption/buying of US debt it will also have a significant affect on the US economy.

Again don't want to be a part of a political debate but some concern for the US economy going forward.

Hope for the best.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Agreed, there are significant risks to economy going forward, especially when the final decision is taken on tariffs.
 

newell138

Heisman
Aug 1, 2001
37,369
48,379
112
Its NJ for now. Wife has great job and her family is here so can't move right now
what part of NJ do they live? Seems like an EE shouldn't have a problem finding something. something to consider would be the Merck site in Rahway. I know more than a few folks who went in as a lower level job, chemical operator, site services, etc then once you're in much easier to find openings that suit your degree. I know a few folks who started out that way, some going to school at night and worked their way up through upper levels of management.
 
Last edited:

RU4Real

Heisman
Jul 25, 2001
50,955
30,733
0
Personally, I look forward to the Revolution. The killing spree is gonna be great.
 
Jan 12, 2015
39,055
39,111
113
Personally, I look forward to the Revolution. The killing spree is gonna be great.
 

RUInsanityToo

All-American
May 5, 2006
9,541
9,857
113
this^^^ NJ is not business friendly at least not now, should be better in 2026. Merck just opened up a huge vaccine facility in NC too on top of the ones we already have down there.


Coming from Merck (I was there for 6 years), I'm sure you would know that Pharma sites take a while to complete and this was not due to the current administration. The Durham site broke ground in 2004 and planning for this latest expansion probably started 10 years ago. Permits/Approval (across various global reg agencies), Construction, Equipment Installation & Validation activities, GMP Validation/Regulatory activities, Testing etc.

Also the recent cuts in the FDA may end up working against attempts at more rapid deployment of Pharma Manufacturing in the US (bringing Pharma Mfg to the US is something that is being advanced by the administration as they have discussed soon removing the Pharma tariff exclusion). As an example I'm waiting to work with a new site in Maryland which was supposed to have FDA inspection/GMP certification in February. It's been continually delayed since then with the EMA (Europe) and PMDA (Japan) beating the FDA to the punch in completing.
 

Panthergrowl13

All-Conference
Nov 11, 2002
13,332
1,718
0
Agreed, there are significant risks to economy going forward, especially when the final decision is taken on tariffs.

As you have referenced a number of people have issued concerns about the possibility of the US Economy going into a Recession.

Although I have referenced the Smoot-Hawley Act (History), I am not implying we will have the same results but some negative consequences could result in pushing the economy toward a recession.

History has shown that if the US Economy goes into a recession unemployment will significantly increase and it will take many years to come out of it. To date we have been very fortunate with rather low unemployment numbers in the range of 3.6%.

Past recession US National Unemployment rates:

!974: 7.2%
1975: 8.2%
1976: 7.8%
1977: 6.4%

1980: 7.2%
1981: 8.5%
1983: 10.8%
1984: 8.3%
1984: 7.3%
1985: 7.0%

Hope for the best going forward.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 

newell138

Heisman
Aug 1, 2001
37,369
48,379
112
Coming from Merck (I was there for 6 years), I'm sure you would know that Pharma sites take a while to complete and this was not due to the current administration. The Durham site broke ground in 2004 and planning for this latest expansion probably started 10 years ago. Permits/Approval (across various global reg agencies), Construction, Equipment Installation & Validation activities, GMP Validation/Regulatory activities, Testing etc.

Also the recent cuts in the FDA may end up working against attempts at more rapid deployment of Pharma Manufacturing in the US (bringing Pharma Mfg to the US is something that is being advanced by the administration as they have discussed soon removing the Pharma tariff exclusion). As an example I'm waiting to work with a new site in Maryland which was supposed to have FDA inspection/GMP certification in February. It's been continually delayed since then with the EMA (Europe) and PMDA (Japan) beating the FDA to the punch in completing.
No one said the Durham Site had anything to do with any administration Obviously that type of facility takes years and years. My point was there was a reason they picked NC as opposed to upgrading the Rahway site which has plenty of room for expansion
 
  • Like
Reactions: RUInsanity
Oct 17, 2007
69,704
47,622
0
Stop running out terrible candidates, and maybe we wouldn’t have to worry about these big bad tariffs

Really? Here on Planet Earth, the candidate that does not want to bomb Mexico, attack Canada, send legal residents to gulags and pick fights with Vietnam over sewing Nikes is the better one.

If only the loud minority knew what a tariff was before, and didn't get their "news" from a guy best known for a TV show about eating tarantulas.
 
Oct 17, 2007
69,704
47,622
0
Where were your complaints about the economy in 2020-2024? We will be fine. Just more extreme reaction by you like a teenage girl

Yeah the record high stock market and record low unemployment was very difficult, but now things are rectified!

Those penguins are going to pay tariffs.

Ecuador, whose sole currency is the US dollar, has been declared a currency manipulator.

And finally, we're going to grow bananas here at home and Shein is going to open a factory in Alabama.
 

JerseyNoles

All-Conference
Jul 28, 2021
2,841
2,425
3
Really? Here on Planet Earth, the candidate that does not want to bomb Mexico, attack Canada, send legal residents to gulags and pick fights with Vietnam over sewing Nikes is the better one.

If only the loud minority knew what a tariff was before, and didn't get their "news" from a guy best known for a TV show about eating tarantulas.
Yet, with all of that going on, and multiple "indictments," you still sent out arguably the worst candidate in any of our lifetimes

Who, in case you missed it, not only lost, but proceeded to get her **** kicked in, losing both the electoral & popular votes, while completing the trifecta of losing all 7 swing states
 
  • Haha
Reactions: BossNJ
Oct 17, 2007
69,704
47,622
0
Why don’t you break it down what he says is incorrect

Sure. Literally everyone with a brain, including hardcore conservative Republicans like Rand Paul say tariffs are moronic. This is 5th grade civics stuff.

It's a tax. And a dumb tax at that.

Literally NO ONE wants to work, or their child to work, on jobs that are currently housed in developing countries.

And, there are many products we can't make in the US just because of climate. Bananas. Coffee beans.

And, we're in the midst of a housing shortage picking a battle with our closest ally where most of the lumber comes from.

And, no one believes Canada, Lesotho, Madagascar, the EU and islands full of penguins are enemies but our best pals are Russia and Belarus.

This isn't even a debate.

Oh wow, Mr. Wonderful- a citizen of Canada and Ireland- has hot takes on American politics. Oh boy, let's get Ron Vara to weigh in. Is he any relation to Peter Navarro? Couldn't be!

You and the others defend it as a reflex. This is what happens when you voted for someone who literally called for Joe Paterno to be brought back. In for a penny, in for a pound, taking the world economy down with you because you believe literal propaganda and support a political party like it's a sports franchise.
 
Oct 17, 2007
69,704
47,622
0
Yet, with all of that going on, and multiple "indictments," you still sent out arguably the worst candidate in any of our lifetimes

Who, in case you missed it, not only lost, but proceeded to get her **** kicked in, losing both the electoral & popular votes, while completing the trifecta of losing all 7 swing states

I didn't send out anyone.

What I did do- in contrast to the other side- was understand what I learned in 5th grade social studies. I guess I had the luck of going to a public school and learning things like separation of powers, Congress has the power of the purse, courts must be abided by, etc. A stroke of luck in a deep purple district, I guess.

You know, versus, what a fishstick heir has to say.

You can't argue tariffs because it's an absolute loser of an argument. Everyone knows it. So you want to talk about the propaganda from before the election. As if ANYTHING could justify plunging the American economy and Constitution into the toilet, Barstool bros hot takes on women sure ain't one.

But as to me, my conscience will be clear, I have another passport and the skills to survive, certainly not needing to hope I can luck out and maybe Temu will open a NJ factory for me.
 
Oct 17, 2007
69,704
47,622
0
Same clown car as the Dementia guy rode in when fake Dr. Jill & Crackhead Hunter were in Washington?

I did see a dementia guy in a car.

He said "I love Tesler" and "everything's computer" as a South African crackhead illegal immigrant showed off his plummeting brand. His nude model illegal immigrant wife wasn't there though. You know, the one he cheated on with a porn star as she sat home with a newborn and became a felon for. After E Jean Carroll, who a federal judge determined he raped. Or as you would say, those Christian values.

That after claiming George Washington took the airports.

Oh...and he under oath confused the woman he raped with his ex wife.

But it's others with dementia? LOL.

You guys project so much next you'll be excusing the destruction of classified documents and hitting our beloved boys in blue with the American flag...OH WAIT!!!
 

yesrutgers01

Heisman
Nov 9, 2008
122,506
38,240
113
Sometimes. With tariffs, it's clear. Are there some tactical maneuvering and pivoting as he tests the waters? Sure. I also forgot to mention, another motivation, as if it was needed, is China's poisoning of Americans with fentanyl. There is no doubt this is intentional. Every move the CCP makes is well orchestrated. This is no doubt part of their payback for the humiliation of the opium wars.
Agree with this.
 

JerseyNoles

All-Conference
Jul 28, 2021
2,841
2,425
3
I didn't send out anyone.

What I did do- in contrast to the other side- was understand what I learned in 5th grade social studies. I guess I had the luck of going to a public school and learning things like separation of powers, Congress has the power of the purse, courts must be abided by, etc. A stroke of luck in a deep purple district, I guess.

You know, versus, what a fishstick heir has to say.

You can't argue tariffs because it's an absolute loser of an argument. Everyone knows it. So you want to talk about the propaganda from before the election. As if ANYTHING could justify plunging the American economy and Constitution into the toilet, Barstool bros hot takes on women sure ain't one.

But as to me, my conscience will be clear, I have another passport and the skills to survive, certainly not needing to hope I can luck out and maybe Temu will open a NJ factory for me.
Annnndddd.... none of it worked
The American people spoke - rather loudly - and decided enough was enough

But hey, don't let me talk any sense into you
Keep up w/the same old playbook

4 years could turn into 8
Which could turn into 12

I'm happy
My family's happy
And a lot of other Americans are happy
 
Oct 17, 2007
69,704
47,622
0
Annnndddd.... none of it worked
The American people spoke - rather loudly - and decided enough was enough

But hey, don't let me talk any sense into you
Keep up w/the same old playbook

4 years could turn into 8
Which could turn into 12

I'm happy
My family's happy
And a lot of other Americans are happy

Yeah it was one of those "loud" elections where no one won a majority decided by 2 points.

What I do think is good is now you guys are out of the closet about the Constitution. I'm glad you no longer pretend like law and order matters. A burden lifted.

No doubt, a shrinking minority of people are happy.

Some people don't have 401ks, don't buy goods or don't care about basic values like democracy or not having gulags.

Eventually though it will come to an end and it's going to be the felon and his cult on their way to Guantanamo. And that's going to spark real joy with a majority.