He’s straight ballin. He’s better than Ace no question. Complete game, NBA body, D, handle, inside moves, sweet J… beast
Queen is a pro…
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He hasn’t received the draft recognition that he has deserved this year, but he is really showing everything he can do in this game. His stock will only rise and some team will be very happy to have him.
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Will be a top 5 pick . Very Jokic like . Flagg. ,Dylan , AcE and Queen will be in top 5. Three in Big 10
him being an excellent college player was exceedingly obvious four months ago.
Maryland and Michigan have top tier talent at every starting position.
I get that but I still think Queen will have a very good pro career and may be better than some think. I will never understand why some of our posters need to tear down one of our players to elevate someone else. I think both Ace and Queen will be good pros.
Queen is a great college player but we have a lot of fans who can’t properly project a player into the pros.
Someone said he was like Jokic. Come on. He’s a 6’ 10” big bodied guy who can’t shoot the 3. He’s far more like Luka Garza at this point (exact same size) than elite big guys.
You cannot downplay how well Queen has played. He has a high IQ game and very talented. If he ever gets his 3 ball going , comparisons to Jokic will be valid. He is also a tremendous passer. He has an old school game but with tremendous talent. If you do not think he is going top 5 or even top 10 maybe you should give up projecting.
He passes better than Garza , has a better handle than Garza , can finish with both hands at the rim , is an excellent foul shooter , has a good mid range shot , is a shot blocker , can rebound on both ends. I could go on and on. The more I go on , the more you will see the traits he has are very Jokic like. I didn’t say he was Jokic just Jokic like.
He is not a great athlete and isn’t an elite defender. Will he go high? Sure, Edey ended up going 14 and has done a nice job so far. Queen has a higher upside but I’ll stand corrected if he ends up being a generational talent like Jokic who has 2 MVPs and averages a triple double.
Stop. He has shown the skill set that you need to succeed at the pro level.
This. When it’s all said and done unless Ace doesn’t have his head on straight (and I think he does) he’ll end up the best NBA player of this group.
I don’t disagree. He absolutely will succeed. I’m simply saying that he’s not going to end up a top 5 player in the NBA.
No way he’s Jokic that’s for sure. But he’s a lot better than Garza. I think he will be a very good part of a whole on an NBA team. Oh and BTW, he hit two three’s today. That’s obviously not his shot but he’s really good from the elbow in.
Haven't looked extensively but this has him up to #7
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25170075-2025-nba-draft-big-board-top-50-prospects-march-madness
Obviously not sure if he gets to Top 10 in the NBA but his draft prospects are looking good currently.
No one is claiming that. One poster made that comparison. I think he will have a very good NBA career based on what he’s shown. This is a dumb discussion as I think both players will do well.
That’s not what people were saying. They were saying he could be a top 5 pick, which is very possible.
Fair enough. I love the guy. I knew he’d kill the college game. I just don’t see him projecting into an elite big guy.
No.
Anyway, at least in college (I rarely pay attention to the NBA), There is no comparison between Garza and Queen ... though in fairness Queen is just a freshman.
Garza was a 2-time 1st team All American, 1X National Player of the Year, who shot 37% from 3 over his career. But even if you look at just his freshman season, he averaged 12 ppg, 7 rpg - yes Queen averages more - 16 ppg, 9 rpg - but Garza was a supporting player, while Queen had to be Maryland's best or 2nd best player - and got the ball more often. But even then Garza shot 35% from 3 (taking 1/3 of his shots from 3), shot 54% from the field overall, 59% eFG% - both distinctly better than Queen. Queen as a frosh averaged 1.9 ***/g to Garza's 1.1 ***/.g, but also turned the ball over a LOT - 2.3/g, vs Garza's 1.1 TO/g. They both had about the same blocked shots per game.
People tend to have a recency bias. Which is fine, just we all should remember that. Queen is the latest "hot" thing.
I would point out that Garza basely plays in the NBA (is he even fully on the roster, or is he G-league who sometimes makes the roster), and averages maybe 5-6 ppg. He does shoot 31% from NBA 3.
It is beyond ridiculous to compare Queen to Jokic - forget about QUALITY, but even in STYLE. Queen's style and skillset bear ZERO resemblance to Jokic's game. Jeez ... where do people come up with this stuff? Jokic was ABVERAGING 5 assist per game by his 2nd year in the NBA, and over 6 ***/g by his 3rd year, and over 7 ***/g every year thereafter (over 10 ***/g this year), and is considered one of, if not THE, best playmakers and setting up teammates players in the NBA. Jokic has never shot worse than 32% from 3 in any NBA season. Queen bears ZERO resemblance to this style. Like LESS than zero if you can say that.
A better comparison is probably Bacot - who has not made the NBA.
Offensively, Queen probably resembles NBA players like Jarret Allen, Adebayo, Myles Turner, Lint Capela ... except ALL those players are exceptional defensive players, often All-Defense teams, Defensive player of the year type post players. Queen has shown NONE of that ability yet. Not saying he can't develop.
It would not shock me if he does NOT make the top10 in the draft - but a strong NCAA tournament might raise his profile to allow such a high draft slot. His type of players are simply NOT what the NBA is looking for, if what I read is true. But I will admit I am no expert in what the NBA is looking for.
Let me explain it again. He is Jokic like , his passing , his footwork , his elite handle , his driving ability , the way he swallows up rebounds, his finishing at the rim with both hands. Once he perfects his 3 in the NBA then he has the complete package. Let me say it again he will not be Jokic but he has a lot of Jokic qualities. Hope this clears it up for you.
I respect your takes on this board but I could not disagree with you more. Like Jokic , Queen is not super athletic . He normally plays below the rim. Maryland plays through him and a number of games he was bringing the ball upcourt. Queen is a superb passer with a really high IQ like Jokic. He just has not perfected his 3 point shot. With all your stats tell me how many 20 point games has Queen had compared to your comparables, Jarrett Allen ., Capela etc. as freshman. He is a good defensive player but nothing like those players that are f defensive specialists. Queen has an elite offensive game that none of those guys had especially Adebayo until he was in the league for 3 years.
Your example of Bacot is ridiculously bad. Bacot was a back to the basket big playing 4-6 from the rim. Queen can face up from 15 feet and drive past you. Bacot was an elite offensive rebounder which Queen does a little bit but not in his league there .
I guess you have not watched Queen a lot as he is an excellent passer . As Tim’s as a freshman he is carrying that senior laden team which should tell you something of what his teammates and coaches think of him and his quality.
So when you say you wonder how people see a resemblance , I say how can you not see it.
Make you a little side bet that Queen is a top 5 or Top 10 pick.
His passing is nothing like Jokic, his shooting is nothing like Jokic, and he is nothing like Jokic. He is a very nice college player, who will be a lottery pick, but he is undersized and not that athletic, and will be asked to guard guys like Jokic, Giannis and Joel Embiid, who will all embarrass him.
I really can’t believe how ya’ll downplay one of the most gifted young basketball players ever in Ace Bailey. I get it, he hasn’t elevated Rutgers but LeBron James couldn’t elevate Rutgers with that coaching and supporting cast.
Jokic is not athletic . But he plays with elite IQ. Queen has some of those qualities. Almost every commentator says he doesn’t play like a freshman but like a seasoned veteran.
How can you say his shooting in the paint is not like Jokic. His 3 point shooting is not there yet but everything else scoring , driving , passing and rebounding is really good and couldn’t be stopped by the entire BIG 10 . His array of moves inside 5-6 feet is incredible.
You guys having watched him enough .