Thank you Kyle Monangai

tru2ru1

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Feb 5, 2003
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Anyone watching the MSU game saw KM leaving the field after each possession, you can tell he is really hurting & has been gutting it out, while in obvious pain.
 

Doctor Worm

Heisman
Feb 7, 2002
30,925
22,708
113
Interesting perspective from Deion Sanders.
Thinks the continuity of winning is more important than his players opting out
Not surprising that a coach would think that. But his logic is flawed IMO.

Sanders states that tapping out (his term) "throws off the structure of next season". If anything, having seniors sit out gives opportunities to underclassmen who are being counted on for next season, thus IMPROVING its structure.

He also stated that a few teams tanked their bowl last year, and never recovered. Perhaps so. Correlation does not imply causality. Others (e.g. Miami) tanked their bowl and went on to bigger and better things.
 
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RutHut_rivals

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Amazing how many people here forget Ohio State’s legendary QB Johnny Utah blowing out his knee in that meaningless Rose Bowl against USC .
NFL dreams gone and he had to take a government job
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RUPete

Heisman
Feb 5, 2003
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You hope he doesn’t play in a bowl? Weird statement that is against everything Kyle stands for as a player, teammate and student athlete of RU. If he is healthy I don’t think you can keep him a way from the bowl game .
Spoken like a fan. I’m sure Kyle will sit down with his family, GS and any folks advising him as he works toward the next level to make the best decision for himself. If he chooses not to play I will have absolutely no problem with it.
 
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Plum Street

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Jun 21, 2009
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Spoken like a fan. I’m sure Kyle will sit down with his family, GS and any folks advising him as he works toward the next level to make the best decision for himself. If he chooses not to play I will have absolutely no problem with it.
Right . And some of us know a lot and are good posters can see what the right move is
 

RUPete

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Feb 5, 2003
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Right . And some of us know a lot and are good posters can see what the right move is
People forget about the Jake Butt knee injury in a bowl. He has carved out a good career in broadcasting, but that wasn’t the original plan.
 

RUbacker

Heisman
Dec 5, 2014
16,172
23,078
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Spoken like a fan. I’m sure Kyle will sit down with his family, GS and any folks advising him as he works toward the next level to make the best decision for himself. If he chooses not to play I will have absolutely no problem with it.
exactly ! if he chooses not to play that’s fine but for you to hope he does not play is a weird *** take.
 
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Plum Street

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If KM chooses to play will you respect his decision?
You’re quite adamant you hope he doesn’t play.
Yes, i would respect it .

I won’t come here complaining and whining that bowl games aren’t the same and how dare he makes that choice
 

Shelby65

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Apr 1, 2008
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Are we talking no fumbles lost ? Or no fumbles at all ?

The latter is even more impressive.
 

RU76COOK

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Dec 30, 2007
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Not surprising that a coach would think that. But his logic is flawed IMO.

Sanders states that tapping out (his term) "throws off the structure of next season". If anything, having seniors sit out gives opportunities to underclassmen who are being counted on for next season, thus IMPROVING its structure.

He also stated that a few teams tanked their bowl last year, and never recovered. Perhaps so. Correlation does not imply causality. Others (e.g. Miami) tanked their bowl and went on to bigger and better things.
"Sanders states that tapping out (his term) "throws off the structure of next season".
Idiot forgot that half this team was "structured" with incoming portals and a lot of those will be playing somewhere else next year. What structure?
 
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RUPete

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I’m not sure why people are busting Plum’s chops. His initial statement about Kyle was reasonable.
 
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zappaa

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Jul 27, 2001
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I’m not sure why people are busting Plum’s chops. His initial statement about Kyle was reasonable.
There’s nothing reasonable about hoping someone doesn’t play.
Do you hope KM doesn’t play?
That’s a different question from understanding if he doesn’t play
 
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newell138

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Aug 1, 2001
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Why hope anyone doesn’t play? It’s kind of weird. I hope they all decide to do what’s best for them. Will be happy if he plays and understanding if he doesn’t

BTW Mike Burton just scored a TD
 
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RUPete

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There’s nothing reasonable about hoping someone doesn’t play.
Do you hope KM doesn’t play?
That’s a different question from understanding if he doesn’t play
You guys are parsing words too much and reading too much into what was in the initial post. All of us wish the best for Kyle who left everything on the field for us fans. Plum can correct me if he wants, but I think he meant that he didn’t want Kyle to risk his professional career by playing in a bowl game.
 

PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
13,922
13,155
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There’s nothing reasonable about hoping someone doesn’t play.
Do you hope KM doesn’t play?
That’s a different question from understanding if he doesn’t play

Because he’s clearly been playing through a lot of pain and the bowl game is an opportunity for the future guys to step up and show what they can do? Realistically, not much good could come of him playing beyond where he is right now in his RU legacy. He’s going out on a dominant winning note closing it out with a banner performance. I’m torn about it, but I could understand the view of hoping he doesn’t take the risk of not going out on that note or at worst, suffering a major injury. He deserves to go out on a high note.
 

Kbee3

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Aug 23, 2002
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Because he’s clearly been playing through a lot of pain and the bowl game is an opportunity for the future guys to step up and show what they can do? Realistically, not much good could come of him playing beyond where he is right now in his RU legacy. He’s going out on a dominant winning note closing it out with a banner performance. I’m torn about it, but I could understand the view of hoping he doesn’t take the risk of not going out on that note or at worst, suffering a major injury. He deserves to go out on a high note.
I think all of us have the greatest respect for what Kyle has done for Rutgers and his career here. And if he chooses to skip the bowl game no one is gonna be upset about it. But he's the engine that drives our offense. And Rutgers is not the same team without him.
 
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Hardslider33

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I’d love to see him play in a bowl and hope like heck he does. Shocking someone would hope he doesn’t play, which is basically the same as saying he should worry about getting injured, which happens to be everything Kyle isn’t, he’s afraid of nothing…
If he doesn’t play he doesn’t.

He’s going to be a great NFL player, blitzing D Backs beware, you’re going to get lit up
Yeah .. I hope he doesn’t
Millions of dollars are on the line for him. It a meaningless game. It only matters to under classmen who get 15 extra organized practices and fans who are desperate to say we won 8 games. That game will do nothing positive for Kyle’s draft stock.

Thanks Kyle it’s been our pleasure to watch you.
 

zappaa

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
75,549
92,556
103
Yeah .. I hope he doesn’t
Millions of dollars are on the line for him. It a meaningless game. It only matters to under classmen who get 15 extra organized practices and fans who are desperate to say we won 8 games. That game will do nothing positive for Kyle’s draft stock.

Thanks Kyle it’s been our pleasure to watch you.
Holy shite.
Winning a bowl game does nothing for KM’s draft stock and only satisfies desperate fans.
Good to know!
 

PSAL_Hoops

Heisman
Feb 18, 2008
13,922
13,155
78
Holy shite.
Winning a bowl game does nothing for KM’s draft stock and only satisfies desperate fans.
Good to know!

At this point, there’s nothing further he can do to boost his draft stock. He’s already proven what he can do so another good game is not changing the outlook.

For Rutgers as a program, the best possible outcome looking ahead to next season would be to pull out a win without Kyle a la the Minnesota game. For Kyle, it’s simply not worth the risk. The upside just isn’t there. That’s not to say I wouldn’t greatly respect his decision if he decides to play because he can’t bring himself to sit out. But it’s certainly not ridiculous to hope he doesn’t take on that unnecessary risk.
 

zappaa

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
75,549
92,556
103
At this point, there’s nothing further he can do to boost his draft stock. He’s already proven what he can do so another good game is not changing the outlook.

For Rutgers as a program, the best possible outcome looking ahead to next season would be to pull out a win without Kyle a la the Minnesota game. For Kyle, it’s simply not worth the risk. The upside just isn’t there. That’s not to say I wouldn’t greatly respect his decision if he decides to play because he can’t bring himself to sit out. But it’s certainly not ridiculous to hope he doesn’t take on that unnecessary risk.
You can’t hope he doesn’t play and respect his decision to play… doesn’t compute.

You can let him decide what’s best for him and what’s important to him.

I wouldn’t in a million years hope Hollin Pierce doesn’t play
 

Shelby65

All-Conference
Apr 1, 2008
8,500
4,705
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All that matters is what he wants to do.

The question of whether fans should want him to play or not is silly.
 

RU848789

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
65,427
44,445
113
Yeah .. I hope he doesn’t
Millions of dollars are on the line for him. It a meaningless game. It only matters to under classmen who get 15 extra organized practices and fans who are desperate to say we won 8 games. That game will do nothing positive for Kyle’s draft stock.

Thanks Kyle it’s been our pleasure to watch you.
By that logic, most of this season was "meaningless" to KM's draft stock, so why did he play at all?
 

iReC89

All-Conference
Jul 2, 2014
2,456
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lol at Deion Sanders. The guy lecturing about commitment built his entire team on players that committed elsewhere and threw the players that committed to Colorado under the bus. What an ***. NIL contracts change the give and take equation a little but hopefully he is not extorting guys to play who might otherwise make other choices. Most bowl games are meaningless exhibitions and a bit of fun, and whether stars play their last game or younger players get an extra opportunity on a big stage it's a win.
 
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