I have the NIL solution!!

365Poster24Seven

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$100 dollar mandatory donation to every season ticket In Football.
1 to 3 percent of everything sold in the stadium to go towards NIL. That will give us at least enough for a top level QB and one to two other top players at key positions yearly. It’s peanuts what it will add and it could go a long way.
 

Section124

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$100 dollar mandatory donation to every season ticket In Football.
1 to 3 percent of everything sold in the stadium to go towards NIL. That will give us at least enough for a top level QB and one to two other top players at key positions yearly. It’s peanuts what it will add and it could go a long way.
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yessir321

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$100 dollar mandatory donation to every season ticket In Football.
1 to 3 percent of everything sold in the stadium to go towards NIL. That will give us at least enough for a top level QB and one to two other top players at key positions yearly. It’s peanuts what it will add and it could go a long way.
Can you just imagine the response from Season ticket holders when they’re told after another disappointing year that a mandatory $100 charge was being added for NIL? We have attendance issues now, this would obliterate it
 

fsg2_rivals

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I was thinking TKR could implement a ***** tax jar, automatically debits every time someone pisses and moans about the program, Schiano, coordinators, AD, Rutgers at large, NIL, too many commercials during the game, students arriving late ...

Quadruple tax for starting a redundant, go-nowhere ***** thread like "Fire Schiano!!!"

Could you even imagine how much money we could raise? Number might exceed the limits of human comprehension
 

ScarletKid2008

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I was thinking TKR could implement a ***** tax jar, automatically debits every time someone pisses and moans about the program, Schiano, coordinators, AD, Rutgers at large, NIL, too many commercials during the game, students arriving late ...

Quadruple tax for starting a redundant, go-nowhere ***** thread like "Fire Schiano!!!"

Could you even imagine how much money we could raise? Number might exceed the limits of human comprehension

Love it !
 

mildone_rivals

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$100 dollar mandatory donation to every season ticket In Football.
1 to 3 percent of everything sold in the stadium to go towards NIL. That will give us at least enough for a top level QB and one to two other top players at key positions yearly. It’s peanuts what it will add and it could go a long way.
That wouldn't be NIL. It would be the school directly paying student athletes. Which is coming, too, but not quite here yet last time I checked.

Until the team starts winning, raising ticket prices is likely to backfire for the program by driving away season ticket holders. But the team can't win regularly until it has NIL funding.

The solution (for NIL) is to get a large locally-headquartered corporation or two to fund an NIL trust with enough money to fund RU NIL efforts perpetually. An initial donation of $100M would be a good start. RU could pull. $5M per year to start out, which would allow the fund to continue to grow each year. After the 5th year of this, if the fund's investments earned only a paltry 6% per year, the fund would have roughly $106M despite having paid out $25M in NIL (not counting taxes).

As the fund grows and the interest earned per year increases, the amount pulled out each year for NIL efforts could grow too. To increase the annual NIL spend, get more companies to contribute to the trust fund.

I don't see RUFB getting much in the way of NIL funding from individuals until the program is making lots of noise in the Big Ten by winning lots of games each season for like 20 seasons in a row. Then you start having lots of grads for whom football was a big deal and then people will be more likely to feel like contributing.

Someone said get the surgical group or medical group that handles RU athletics to contribute. That's a good idea, although it might not pan out. But that's the sort of thinking that could make a real difference. Being creative about finding ways to make it attractive to companies in the NJ area to contribute.
 

zebnatto

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What we are doing is accepting the fact that we are now watching professional athletes (not the best professional athletes) who sell their services to the highest bidder. The answer is not to eliminate compensation to athletes (though for a 4-year athlete at a private school, we're talking a quarter-million dollar payoff) but to re-examine the process and the regulations (who said that word!) governing NIL. Otherwise, as things are now, we are watching a AA version of MLB. Just root for an NBA team where the quality of the players is drastically higher,

Or: https://www.si.com/college/oregon/f...riel-evan-stewart-phil-knight-nike-ohio-state
 

PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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That wouldn't be NIL. It would be the school directly paying student athletes. Which is coming, too, but not quite here yet last time I checked.

Until the team starts winning, raising ticket prices is likely to backfire for the program by driving away season ticket holders. But the team can't win regularly until it has NIL funding.

The solution (for NIL) is to get a large locally-headquartered corporation or two to fund an NIL trust with enough money to fund RU NIL efforts perpetually. An initial donation of $100M would be a good start. RU could pull. $5M per year to start out, which would allow the fund to continue to grow each year. After the 5th year of this, if the fund's investments earned only a paltry 6% per year, the fund would have roughly $106M despite having paid out $25M in NIL (not counting taxes).

As the fund grows and the interest earned per year increases, the amount pulled out each year for NIL efforts could grow too. To increase the annual NIL spend, get more companies to contribute to the trust fund.

I don't see RUFB getting much in the way of NIL funding from individuals until the program is making lots of noise in the Big Ten by winning lots of games each season for like 20 seasons in a row. Then you start having lots of grads for whom football was a big deal and then people will be more likely to feel like contributing.

Someone said get the surgical group or medical group that handles RU athletics to contribute. That's a good idea, although it might not pan out. But that's the sort of thinking that could make a real difference. Being creative about finding ways to make it attractive to companies in the NJ area to contribute.
What corporation is going to tell stock holder that they are going to give away $100 million for essentially nothing but hey they are local. If it was really that easy don’t you think every school would have done that?
 
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mildone_rivals

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What corporation is going to tell stock holder that they are going to give away $100 million for essentially nothing but hey they are local. If it was really that easy don’t you think every school would have done that?
I haven’t given it much thought. But I suspect there are ways to show benefit for certain corporations. $100M is a lot for most individuals. But it’s not a huge amount for large corporations. And not all large corps have shareholders.
 

RutgersBall

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$100 dollar mandatory donation to every season ticket In Football.
The problem is that season tickets don't sell well to begin with and will probably drop after this disappointing season. The games don't come close to selling out so I'd rather just buy them on a week-to-week basis anyway than deal with all the stupid donation requirements and the awful Rutgers ticket office.
 
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The problem is that season tickets don't sell well to begin with and will probably drop after this disappointing season. The games don't come close to selling out so I'd rather just buy them on a week-to-week basis anyway than deal with all the stupid donation requirements and the awful Rutgers ticket office.
There are 4 more games to make this a successful season. Let’s see how things end.

For season tickets, you can do everything online, and not deal with the ticket office.
 
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RUAldo

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Can you just imagine the response from Season ticket holders when they’re told after another disappointing year that a mandatory $100 charge was being added for NIL? We have attendance issues now, this would obliterate it
There are still season ticket holders? LOL…after this season’s meltdown RU may have to pay fans to come. Especially when you look at next year’s schedule. How many wins can we even expect?
 
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I’ve posted an article awhile back that Tenn is doing something like that. Trying to captilaize on their recent resurgence. Also think Clemson added 150 dollar or some odd athletics fee to their tuition.

Schools being able to pay players will bring about some of these kind of things in addition to cuts in the AD.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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$100 dollar mandatory donation to every season ticket In Football.
1 to 3 percent of everything sold in the stadium to go towards NIL. That will give us at least enough for a top level QB and one to two other top players at key positions yearly. It’s peanuts what it will add and it could go a long way.
Who would coach this top level QB? Or design an offense in which he would thrive?
 
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-RUFAN4LIFE-

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A thread on the free board where Rutgers fans complain about paying more for a better product while complaining said product is ******.

Color me shocked.

You guys get what you pay for in athletics.
It’s amazing that they can’t see it’s not working.
 

RUinPinehurst

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Can you just imagine the response from Season ticket holders when they’re told after another disappointing year that a mandatory $100 charge was being added for NIL? We have attendance issues now, this would obliterate it
Catch-22....
 

Zimm80

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There are still season ticket holders? LOL…after this season’s meltdown RU may have to pay fans to come. Especially when you look at next year’s schedule. How many wins can we even expect?
You may be 100% correct, assuming some key players transfer out, no QB solution, Shiano’s defense may be ok until we get into the meat of the schedule then injuries or lack of depth or both, we may be looking at a 2 or 3 win season, GS could donate at least half of his yearly salary to NIL then he could possibly retire on a good note instead of being chased out of town.
 

rurichdog

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I really don't understand RU Athletics Financials. We still look like Big East despite increasing revenue by multiples of what we brought in prior, but we got a couple of new buildings, but not the ones we really wanted. So now the fans have to pony up for those, plus paying the players, but nobody seems to be the driving force for that.

Mo' money, mo' problems.
 
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PSU_Nut_rivals17625

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I haven’t given it much thought. But I suspect there are ways to show benefit for certain corporations. $100M is a lot for most individuals. But it’s not a huge amount for large corporations. And not all large corps have shareholders.
Like I said if it was that easy someone would have done it. To put it in perspective one of the most valuable corporate sponsorship is naming rights to the stadium. SHI is paying Rutgers 11.2 million over 6 years to put their name on the stadium but you think some corporation going to cut a check for $100 million? If local corporations were that flush in cash wanting to help you would think they could get more than the $1.55 million that they are paying this year for the naming rights.
 

mildone_rivals

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Like I said if it was that easy someone would have done it. To put it in perspective one of the most valuable corporate sponsorship is naming rights to the stadium. SHI is paying Rutgers 11.2 million over 6 years to put their name on the stadium but you think some corporation going to cut a check for $100 million? If local corporations were that flush in cash wanting to help you would think they could get more than the $1.55 million that they are paying this year for the naming rights.
Who said anything about "easy"?

And how do you know it hasn't been done elsewhere across the country? NIL funding can be very opaque.

My whole life, I've listened to people tell me "it can't be done" and then either done it, or watched it get done by others. So... maybe it can't be done. But I'm always skeptical about that until I've seen the right people using the right approach with the right resources.

If it has been tried at RU, then it was probably the wrong people using the wrong approach without the necessary resources.

I do not think going after individuals, especially season ticket holders is a workable approach at RU. Not that RU should avoid trying that as well. It will obviously produce some NIL money. But just as obviously, it's not producing enough. I just think it's too small and too slow.
 

Morrischiano2

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That wouldn't be NIL. It would be the school directly paying student athletes. Which is coming, too, but not quite here yet last time I checked.

Until the team starts winning, raising ticket prices is likely to backfire for the program by driving away season ticket holders. But the team can't win regularly until it has NIL funding.

The solution (for NIL) is to get a large locally-headquartered corporation or two to fund an NIL trust with enough money to fund RU NIL efforts perpetually. An initial donation of $100M would be a good start. RU could pull. $5M per year to start out, which would allow the fund to continue to grow each year. After the 5th year of this, if the fund's investments earned only a paltry 6% per year, the fund would have roughly $106M despite having paid out $25M in NIL (not counting taxes).

As the fund grows and the interest earned per year increases, the amount pulled out each year for NIL efforts could grow too. To increase the annual NIL spend, get more companies to contribute to the trust fund.

I don't see RUFB getting much in the way of NIL funding from individuals until the program is making lots of noise in the Big Ten by winning lots of games each season for like 20 seasons in a row. Then you start having lots of grads for whom football was a big deal and then people will be more likely to feel like contributing.

Someone said get the surgical group or medical group that handles RU athletics to contribute. That's a good idea, although it might not pan out. But that's the sort of thinking that could make a real difference. Being creative about finding ways to make it attractive to companies in the NJ area to contribute.
Perfect. Now go get that initial $100M donation. I'll wait right here.
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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I really don't understand RU Athletics Financials. We still look like Big East despite increasing revenue by multiples of what we brought in prior, but we got a couple of new buildings, but not the ones we really wanted. So now the fans have to pony up for those, plus paying the players, but nobody seems to be the driving force for that.

Mo' money, mo' problems.
Primarily due to lack of fan support. Look all around the conference and you see tons of money raised for athletics and academics at other B1G schools. RU is the outlier when it comes to raising money. Our fans expect everything to come out of the operating budget and don’t give.

So you get what you paid for.
 
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You get what you pay for or I can flip that and you don’t get what you pay for and waste a lot. I’ve given example of programs that spend a bunch and get nothing.

Can you have a more supportive fanbase than Nebraska and they haven’t even made a bowl game in like 7-8 years. That’s a pretty low bar given the ubiquity of bowls. How much money have they been spending in all that time. Finally they should make one this year,

Money isn’t a panacea or the solution to all problems and shouldn’t be a crutch for any and everything. It’s very helpful no doubt but it’s not the end all be all to accomplishing good goals and accomplishments.
 
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A thread on the free board where Rutgers fans complain about paying more for a better product while complaining said product is ******.

Color me shocked.

You guys get what you pay for in athletics.
NIL isn't the only reason why we're not winning in our conference. We could get a $75M donation tomorrow and still underperform next season as much as we underperform any other season. We still need a change in the culture and the program itself if we want to compete for a decent bowl or playoff spot.

Donors can probably tell this already. And people with money for the most part aren't stupid. They can tell when their funds aren't being put to good use and don't want to put it in a program that's going to blow it like us.

If we were going to have a surprise season, last year would've been it. Now that ship has sailed and we need to invest in some changes.
 

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Primarily due to lack of fan support. Look all around the conference and you see tons of money raised for athletics and academics at other B1G schools. RU is the outlier when it comes to raising money. Our fans expect everything to come out of the operating budget and don’t give.

So you get what you paid for.
AND THEN...they moan about using state money for the school, which is a lie, but who cares. It makes for a nice moan.

We live in the richest part of the country. WTF
 

365Poster24Seven

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Most Rutgers fans are not passionate about winning. They are passionate about talking sports and complaining. Look no further than the thread where the fake die hards are reliving past years of the star ledger. It’s a paper that they all complain about and never buy lol. That is good enough for them they do not need to win. As long as they get to waste hours everyday with there silly threads that’s good enough. Some do it on multiple websites. They rather die than donate a buck to NIL who cares if every other fanbase is doing it. BAC has not said boo on anything basketball related since the NCAA tournament but next week he will be back giving his silly thoughts and spending 2 hours of his life with a silly recap pretending to be a sportswriter That and hour after hour on the the CE board makes a sad life. Unless it’s revenue sharing it simply will never happen for us. Not with this fanbase.
 

RU_Goo

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We had NIL to have a good year, we just spent it wrong. It was limited but - All the players we spent to retain are injured, when we could have spent it on depth.
 

mildone_rivals

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You get what you pay for or I can flip that and you don’t get what you pay for and waste a lot. I’ve given example of programs that spend a bunch and get nothing.

Can you have a more supportive fanbase than Nebraska and they haven’t even made a bowl game in like 7-8 years. That’s a pretty low bar given the ubiquity of bowls. How much money have they been spending in all that time. Finally they should make one this year,

Money isn’t a panacea or the solution to all problems and shouldn’t be a crutch for any and everything. It’s very helpful no doubt but it’s not the end all be all to accomplishing good goals and accomplishments.
NIL money isn’t a guarantee. Because other teams have it too, and because **** happens.

But I think we’re seeing that it’s guaranteed that no big ten team can regularly compete with the top half of the conference without lots of NIL money.
 

Section124

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Most Rutgers fans are not passionate about winning. They are passionate about talking sports and complaining. Look no further than the thread where the fake die hards are reliving past years of the star ledger. It’s a paper that they all complain about and never buy lol. That is good enough for them they do not need to win. As long as they get to waste hours everyday with there silly threads that’s good enough. Some do it on multiple websites. They rather die than donate a buck to NIL who cares if every other fanbase is doing it. BAC has not said boo on anything basketball related since the NCAA tournament but next week he will be back giving his silly thoughts and spending 2 hours of his life with a silly recap pretending to be a sportswriter That and hour after hour on the the CE board makes a sad life. Unless it’s revenue sharing it simply will never happen for us. Not with this fanbase.
Good god..you need to get laid more than Al.
 

mildone_rivals

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Good god..you need to get laid more than Al.
Might help him, but I kinda doubt it.

But he’s right that spending hours being obsessive about political narratives on the CE board is a sad waste of time. Addicting, but still a sad waste of time. But it’s people’s time to waste, just like it’s people’s money to spend. So not sure what he thinks he’s accomplishing here.

What I really don’t understand is, since he’s so clearly depressed about our fanbase, why not go be a fan of a team with “better” fans? He’s not gonna persuade anybody to do anything the way he posts, so why waste time crying all the time?
 
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NIL money isn’t a guarantee. Because other teams have it too, and because **** happens.

But I think we’re seeing that it’s guaranteed that no big ten team can regularly compete with the top half of the conference without lots of NIL money.
I think for about 80% of the landscape it's a year to year thing. Regularly doing anything is harder these days regardless, which on balance actually probably is a good thing. Hope and opportunity is there for more schools than ever before.

Revenue sharing is supposed to be coming as soon as next year and that will be another thing imo that will help bring even a little more parity.
 

Section124

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Might help him, but I kinda doubt it.

But he’s right that spending hours being obsessive about political narratives on the CE board is a sad waste of time. Addicting, but still a sad waste of time. But it’s people’s time to waste, just like it’s people’s money to spend. So not sure what he thinks he’s accomplishing here.

What I really don’t understand is, since he’s so clearly depressed about our fanbase, why not go be a fan of a team with “better” fans? He’s not gonna persuade anybody to do anything the way he posts, so why waste time crying all the time?
I always figured that account was Al's burner account or his significant others (no judgement there). This is a message board trying to generate clicks/revenue. Complaining gets more clicks than being positive. Sad reality.