BigTen Makes Immediate CFB Rule Change
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Just make the play reviewable. Offside on a kick should be pretty damn easy to confirm/overturn on replay.
yeah great. So now they can have TWO refs in a position to throw a bad flag. Coaches should get 1 random challenge to use as needed to address these crappy game changing calls. They also would have to possess the guts to correct the call..which is often a consideration of not wanting to look too bad too often.
Is my memory correct- didn’t RU have an offside penalty years ago against Alabama that negated recovery
Plays are overturned on replay all the time. Occasionally the replay official also gets it wrong but it happens a lot less because, you know, they are reviewing the play in slow motion from multiple angles.
If only one change were to be made, I would go with the booth review, which they can slow it down and give it a good look
They could do both changes
How many times have we seen the official review of a play be controversial as well? Bias rears its ugly head far too often.
@fluoxetine had similar comment but did not account for purposeful errors.. bias.. it seems to happen in live calls on the field, officials' huddles to decide what the "on-field call" will be.. and even in the official reviews.. and in the NFL.. we even see it in directions coming from the league office in New York.
Sure, bias will always be there, but isn’t the point to attempt to remove all bias to the extent possible? And wouldn’t the best way to do that in this specific case to just make the play reviewable? We have a camera angle looking right at the line of scrimmage and as video review goes, offside is about as black and white as you can get? Makes a lot more sense than saying “I know, let’s reposition the on-field refs so they can still get the call wrong.”
I’ve seen bad video review calls but the vast majority of the time they seem to get it right. There’s only so many “purposeful errors” you can make when the play is being shown 20 times from 5 different angles to everyone watching on TV.
reviews are great- look how good they were on those targeting plays...just saying
Targeting is much more subjective than offside, especially when you have a camera right on the LOS.
I get it but have seen more than a few goalie sideline calls missed by replay too
On a different note, they have to modify the situation that allows the referee to hold up play to allow for substitution and leaving the field. The problem is that the play clock is not stopped. I think Rutgers used that to its advantage in the Virginia Tech game by taking a late, slow jog to the sideline while V-Tech's play clock expired. That was smart on Rutgers part but overall it is not very fair to the team ready to snap the ball to have that happen.
If the offensive team makes a substitution the defense is allowed to substitute, if the offense makes a late substitution they risk a delay of game since the defense can substitute & doesn’t have to be in a rush
Just for the record this is the same ref and crew that called ther OPI on us against Nebraska last time…. They should be gone…
it was the exact opposite. Rutgers was on offense and Va Tech slow-jogged...forcing Greg to have to call time out. BTW, we all know how quickly the league came out to address the Ohio State basketball game for us right (haha).
Rutgers goes off the field slowly on these plays every time. It’s good coaching given a poor rule.
I forget which game it was but RU did get called for offsides on an onside kick and I believe they called the kicker offsides.
On the slow jog replacing players- what they need to do is a simple rule- offense needs to make substitutions prior to it being 20 seconds left on the play clock- and defense has until 5 seconds left on the clock to make theirs and be set. At 5 seconds- ref releases the ball for play and if the defensive subs are not set- that is their problem
YES.. there should be time limits when both the offense can sub and when teh defense can sub. The play clock is 45 seconds.. give them 15 seconds to initiate substitution and, outside a 2-minute WARNING of each half prevent the offense from snapping the ball for those first 15 seconds.. giving the D 15 seconds to sub in if it wants to.
- The O can still do a quasi-hurry-up offense and snap the ball after the first 15 seconds.
If the O begins a sub inside those 15 seconds, then the D gets to sub, and the ref can hold up the snap, as they do today, but has to allow the snap when the play clock reaches 15 seconds left. This incentivizes the D to sub quickly and stop playing these clock games.
- Inside 2-minutes the O can snap right away and a D sub is at its own risk. Also.. allow players leaving the field to be technically on the field if they are near teh sidelines and do not get involved in the play. But to enter the field while a play is ongoing is still a penalty.
To summarize, the O can sub ONLY within 15 seconds of the play clock, and if the O subs, then the D must sub before the play clock stops at 15 seconds. And, outside the 2-minute mark of each half, the O cannot snap the ball for the first 15 seconds.
And while we are at rule changes.. these forward basses behind the LOS are a real problem. No blocker should be blocking beyond the LOS on any pass.. before that pass is caught. Too many times you see balls caught just at the LOS where now a ref must figure out exactly where the ball was caught and if WRs blocking downfield were legal or not. Just make it illegal and not worry about where the ball is caught. And on the offense side, pass interference should apply on balls trying to be caught behind the LOS.. like screen passes. We recently had 2 tunnel screens where a defender just grabbed the intended receiver's arm.
The rule is just absurd- for a ref to hold the play until time runs completely off the play clock- says it all.
I'm not clear on this one point.
the official said the offsides player broke the plane.
So offsides on KO is if your body enters the demarcation, crossing the plane not stepping past with your foot on the ground.
so in essence my head can enter the plane with the majority of my body behind the line by a foot, I'm offsides.
the official said the offsides player broke the plane.
So offsides on KO is if your body enters the demarcation, crossing the plane not stepping past with your foot on the ground.
so in essence my head can enter the plane with the majority of my body behind the line by a foot, I'm offsides.