Iowa vs Indiana

[ihawkhoops]

Amazing comeback and I am happy to eat crow over not thinking the team had it in them. On the other hand Fran's behavior was atrocious. I get that he's frustrated with the play and dealing with some personal stuff with Pmac but acting like a lunatic isn't a good look. He could have easily handed the game to Indiana by getting his second T.

Woodson's comments after the game are very pointed and I don't disagree with anything he said. Fran should have gotten a T and apparently one was called and then taken back. Maybe there is some context I don't have but I didn't see the IU assistant coach talking **** to Fran as the announcers reported. He appeared to be talking to the ref about something and Fran flipped out. The whole finger pointing contorted face stuff from Fran is beyond old. Put that energy into recruiting and coaching defense please.

 

[2jimmyjhen12]

yea... I for one love the fire and passion of Coach McCaffery
because of his fire and enthusiasm is why we won the game last night.

if you are siding with the opposing coach over your own coach, that reveals a lot about your own heart.

I've always been a fiery competitor... so when I see Fran get pissed off.. I get pissed off.
I'm on his side the whole way... he's got my support 100%

he's fighting for his team, his players, and this state

you can't just let these f**kers waltz in and ramrod you in the rear.
you gotta fight... you gotta say f* no... and you gotta go out there and take the bull by the horns.

this sissy wissy stuff that you promote.. I can't go along with that... I can't go along with that at all.

 

[Max Rebo]

Amazing comeback and I am happy to eat crow over not thinking the team had it in them. On the other hand Fran's behavior was atrocious. I get that he's frustrated with the play and dealing with some personal stuff with Pmac but acting like a lunatic isn't a good look. He could have easily handed the game to Indiana by getting his second T.

Woodson's comments after the game are very pointed and I don't disagree with anything he said. Fran should have gotten a T and apparently one was called and then taken back. Maybe there is some context I don't have but I didn't see the IU assistant coach talking **** to Fran as the announcers reported. He appeared to be talking to the ref about something and Fran flipped out. The whole finger pointing contorted face stuff from Fran is beyond old. Put that energy into recruiting and coaching defense please.

I think the T that was waved off was called on the Indiana assistant. It's not clear, but that's the more likely scenario based on the video I watched.

While Fran certainly crosses the line more often than he should, I think it was good that he injected himself into that particular debate, so close to the end of the game, with the outcome uncertain. Can't afford to let the other team's coaching staff get in the refs' ears that late in the game.

 

[Dukeslater21]

On the other hand Fran's behavior was atrocious.

Ever hear of a fella by the name of Bobby Knight? Well, once upon a time he coached Big Ten basketball . . . @ Indiana . . . and he was a tyrant . . . to his players as well as to the officials. He once fired a folding chair across the court in Bloomington. But he won basketball games. A lot of them. And he was revered by most big-time college basketball folks across the nation. Iowa got screwed in Blooomington regularly on Knight's watch.

Lute Olson, the gentleman in the suit and tie who was Iowa's head coach for a while, once said an official (Jim Bain) "should be in jail" (look it up) after a controversial Iowa loss @ Purdue. Lute, on a few occasions, chased officials off the floor. But everybody loved Lute.

And then there's that munchkin up at Michigan State that basketball nation fawns over, one who has had the refs intimidated since day one, one whose team's generally play rugby on the basketball court and get away with it. Ever watch Izzo go ballistic? He's been totally unhinged at least as often as any coach in the country, but he's won a lot of games too, and he's a favored son, so people laugh and carry on.

And how about Juwan Howard up at Michigan? Talk about anger issues. The guy has threatened to kill people, and he's physically attacked other coaches. Whaddaya think about that?

Many Iowa fans, including several on this board, have regularly criticized Fran's Iowa teams for being soft, for letting the opponent have their way with them, for lacking grit. I have been among them. But not last night.

Indiana and Mike Woodson can go to . . . Bloomington and whine all they want. The Hoosiers have run roughshod over the Big Ten for more than half a century and never apologized. Anyone remember when Isaiah Thomas threw a Hawkeye player into the seats in Bloomington?

Bottom line: There is no appeals process in college basketball. You either stand up for yourself and your team in the moment, or you sit there like a Lickliter with your head in your hands and let everybody bully you into submission. Fran's demeanor, if you care to be objective, isn't much different than Lute Olson's. It's certainly no worse than that of Izzo or Howard or many other major college coaches.

So get off Fran's back and consider the context. Get off Fran's back and be glad the Iowa Hawkeyes handed the Indiana Hoosiers some of their own medicine for a change. The chokers from Bloomington just blew a 28-7 lead, a 35-15 lead, and a 50-40 lead, among others. Congrats to Fran and his undermanned Hawkeyes for refusing to be intimidated, refusing to quit, and refusing to be bullied any more.

 

[Ragmann]

Amazing comeback and I am happy to eat crow over not thinking the team had it in them. On the other hand Fran's behavior was atrocious. I get that he's frustrated with the play and dealing with some personal stuff with Pmac but acting like a lunatic isn't a good look. He could have easily handed the game to Indiana by getting his second T.

Woodson's comments after the game are very pointed and I don't disagree with anything he said. Fran should have gotten a T and apparently one was called and then taken back. Maybe there is some context I don't have but I didn't see the IU assistant coach talking **** to Fran as the announcers reported. He appeared to be talking to the ref about something and Fran flipped out. The whole finger pointing contorted face stuff from Fran is beyond old. Put that energy into recruiting and coaching defense please.

I don't believe that is accurate. Indiana asst. was having an extended convo with official so Fran walked over to listen in as officials are supposed to involve both coaches in extended conversations according to the rules. Indiana assistant starts screaming at Fran and cursing him. Official signals a T in Indiana but retracts it. Fran was in the right here. I was more worried about Connor getting t'd because he stuck his nose in there as well. As much as I can't stand that crew of officials I actually thought they handled things pretty well down the stretch as tempers were high and the game was very intense.

 

[HawkFan10]

Amazing comeback and I am happy to eat crow over not thinking the team had it in them. On the other hand Fran's behavior was atrocious. I get that he's frustrated with the play and dealing with some personal stuff with Pmac but acting like a lunatic isn't a good look. He could have easily handed the game to Indiana by getting his second T.

Woodson's comments after the game are very pointed and I don't disagree with anything he said. Fran should have gotten a T and apparently one was called and then taken back. Maybe there is some context I don't have but I didn't see the IU assistant coach talking **** to Fran as the announcers reported. He appeared to be talking to the ref about something and Fran flipped out. The whole finger pointing contorted face stuff from Fran is beyond old. Put that energy into recruiting and coaching defense please.

Woodson's comments also should include his own assistant coach getting a T as they are NOT allowed to sit there and have a conversation with the refs, only the head coach is allowed to do that.

 

[2432Hawk]

Amazing comeback and I am happy to eat crow over not thinking the team had it in them. On the other hand Fran's behavior was atrocious. I get that he's frustrated with the play and dealing with some personal stuff with Pmac but acting like a lunatic isn't a good look. He could have easily handed the game to Indiana by getting his second T.

Woodson's comments after the game are very pointed and I don't disagree with anything he said. Fran should have gotten a T and apparently one was called and then taken back. Maybe there is some context I don't have but I didn't see the IU assistant coach talking **** to Fran as the announcers reported. He appeared to be talking to the ref about something and Fran flipped out. The whole finger pointing contorted face stuff from Fran is beyond old. Put that energy into recruiting and coaching defense please.

There was no Technical Foul called as he stated. The official gave T signal and pointed toward the IU bench signaling to the scorers table that Indiana had called Time - Out. Yet no Timeout was taken?

Fran had every right to be upset and to be where he was. Officials are not to be speaking with coaches and Fran rightfully got engaged... just like he did vs. IU in the BigTen Semi Final last March.

 

[walkinandahawkin]

Amazing comeback and I am happy to eat crow over not thinking the team had it in them. On the other hand Fran's behavior was atrocious. I get that he's frustrated with the play and dealing with some personal stuff with Pmac but acting like a lunatic isn't a good look. He could have easily handed the game to Indiana by getting his second T.

Woodson's comments after the game are very pointed and I don't disagree with anything he said. Fran should have gotten a T and apparently one was called and then taken back. Maybe there is some context I don't have but I didn't see the IU assistant coach talking **** to Fran as the announcers reported. He appeared to be talking to the ref about something and Fran flipped out. The whole finger pointing contorted face stuff from Fran is beyond old. Put that energy into recruiting and coaching defense please.

Why don't you take your whole finger and point it up your a$$.

 

[ihawkhoops]

I played sports and my dad was a coach for 40 years so the competitive piece is not lost on me. My point is that if Fran wants to be pissed off at somebody look in the freaking mirror. This was what the third game in a row that Iowa came out looking disinterested in playing defense and utterly inept on offense? Oh and the one before was the lost to EIU.

Fran getting a technical by vociferously complaining about a call or non-call is one thing. Getting up into people's personal space after charging onto the floor is another. Bobby Knight, Keady, Heathcoate, etc., are from a different era. The red-faced screaming at players and refs doesn't fly and no, I am not a woke snowflake who gets triggered easily. You can say I am full of crap but Fran acting like he did last nigh isn't a good look for him or the program IMO.

 

[83Hawk]

I like a coach to have fire when the need arises. In my opinion. Fran has not been treated fairly by officials at times. He's not the only one. Seems some coaches (Izzo, Knight, etc.) have been allowed to get away with more than others.

 

[jthawk]

I played sports and my dad was a coach for 40 years so the competitive piece is not lost on me. My point is that if Fran wants to be pissed off at somebody look in the freaking mirror. This was what the third game in a row that Iowa came out looking disinterested in playing defense and utterly inept on offense? Oh and the one before was the lost to EIU.

Fran getting a technical by vociferously complaining about a call or non-call is one thing. Getting up into people's personal space after charging onto the floor is another. Bobby Knight, Keady, Heathcoate, etc., are from a different era. The red-faced screaming at players and refs doesn't fly and no, I am not a woke snowflake who gets triggered easily. You can say I am full of crap but Fran acting like he did last nigh isn't a good look for him or the program IMO.

Great for you and your dad. I played college basketball and have no problem with Fran. He is passionate and sometimes loses his temper. Not that uncommon in the game.

 

[2432Hawk]

I played sports and my dad was a coach for 40 years so the competitive piece is not lost on me. My point is that if Fran wants to be pissed off at somebody look in the freaking mirror. This was what the third game in a row that Iowa came out looking disinterested in playing defense and utterly inept on offense? Oh and the one before was the lost to EIU.

Fran getting a technical by vociferously complaining about a call or non-call is one thing. Getting up into people's personal space after charging onto the floor is another. Bobby Knight, Keady, Heathcoate, etc., are from a different era. The red-faced screaming at players and refs doesn't fly and no, I am not a woke snowflake who gets triggered easily. You can say I am full of crap but Fran acting like he did last nigh isn't a good look for him or the program IMO.

Connor pretty much said the players totally were not performing. Failing to be in press and just not following scout.

You have to wonder if PMacs situation isn't also effecting the team... especially Connor?

They are a very close bunch and concerned for their brother.

 

[KornKob]

I think the T that was waved off was called on the Indiana assistant. It's not clear, but that's the more likely scenario based on the video I watched.

While Fran certainly crosses the line more often than he should, I think it was good that he injected himself into that particular debate, so close to the end of the game, with the outcome uncertain. Can't afford to let the other team's coaching staff get in the refs' ears that late in the game.

What you probably didn't see on tv was the assistant running his mouth several times during the game. Woodson should have told him to shut up.

 

[Ragmann]

I played sports and my dad was a coach for 40 years so the competitive piece is not lost on me. My point is that if Fran wants to be pissed off at somebody look in the freaking mirror. This was what the third game in a row that Iowa came out looking disinterested in playing defense and utterly inept on offense? Oh and the one before was the lost to EIU.

Fran getting a technical by vociferously complaining about a call or non-call is one thing. Getting up into people's personal space after charging onto the floor is another. Bobby Knight, Keady, Heathcoate, etc., are from a different era. The red-faced screaming at players and refs doesn't fly and no, I am not a woke snowflake who gets triggered easily. You can say I am full of crap but Fran acting like he did last nigh isn't a good look for him or the program IMO.

It’s a great look to see a passionate Coach fighting for his team rather than a coach sulking on the sidelines with head in hands. Proud of Fran and he clearly outcoached Woodson who should be censured for his postgame comments.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

Just like all the talk about Jackson-Davis playing 38 minutes and NO mention of K Murray playing 40. Also Filip would have been 40 also if he didn’t foul out. He had 38 as it was.