Daily Tracking the NET: now 102

[Zak57]

Moved up to 91 after the loss.

 

[bac2therac]

Yup and Ohio State slipped to 38

Seton Hall on the cusp of becoming a Quad 1 win now at 77

 

[Salvi's Headband]

A year ago today we were #14

 

[RUJMM78]

A year ago today we were #14

Winning matters.

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

A year ago today we were #14

To be fair, we did beat 6 Q4s, sub 300s teams, by 30+ points, lost 4 games by a combined 16 points and was coming off winning @ the #1 NET team Purdue at 10-4.

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

With Seton Hall beating Marquette and loss today,

Rutgers Net Record
Q1 1-6 Q2 0-0 Q3 0-0 Q4 7-0
St Peter's is #161, could become a Q3 tomorrow and Bryant is #176 could work its way into Q3 too down the road.

 

[bac2therac]

Rutgers falls to 95

Indiana up to 98

Ohio State falls 11 to 44 after the Indiana loss

Seton Hall at 73 now a Quad 1 win

 

[Knight Owl]

Rutgers can actually still get to 10 conference wins without winning a Quad 1 game.
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[bac2therac]

Rutgers overall sos is 32

The non conference sos has settled at a solid 130.

 

[goru7]

Rutgers overall sos is 32

The non conference sos has settled at a solid 130.

Well it figures that the non conference SOS is finally respectable and our entire team every single player is underachieving. People wonder how we beat Seton Hall and we hit shots 12–24 from 3. Every other game nothing, nada from 2 point range or 3 point range. I have seen one half of good basketball and that is second half against Ohio State and the rest so much mediocre to bad play. Players have to look in the mirror. Only so much Pike can do.

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

Michigan is about to be 6-9 and is poorly constructed since losing Caleb Love to admissions. I can't believe they play two guards, Dug McDaniel and Nimari Burnett, with little to no help behind them and 5 wings/forwards in their 7 man rotation. Jaelyn Llewllyn is their 3rd guard for 10 minutes a game. They won at Iowa and at St John's with hot shooting games, and should win a few more games like it but they should finish near or at the bottom.

 

[bac2therac]

up a notch to 94

Indiana at 98 so a win not likely to move RU significantly

 

[Scangg]

Rutgers can actually still get to 10 conference wins without winning a Quad 1 game.
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Interesting but 10 wins without a Q1 win doesn't do anything for us except for having a respectable season that isn't a disaster

 

[PiscatawayMike]

Interesting but 10 wins without a Q1 win doesn't do anything for us except for having a respectable season that isn't a disaster

Exactly... need 10 B1G wins and at least three of them have to be Q1 to be on the bubble.

 

[Knight Owl]

Interesting but 10 wins without a Q1 win doesn't do anything for us except for having a respectable season that isn't a disaster

Yes. I was just surprised that the schedule really isn’t impossible the rest of the way. Get to 20 wins and you always have a chance…and the BigTen tournament provides additional opportunities.

 

[bac2therac]

Interesting but 10 wins without a Q1 win doesn't do anything for us except for having a respectable season that isn't a disaster

yeah 0-10 Quad 1 record will eliminate you right off the bat

 

[bac2therac]

Yes. I was just surprised that the schedule really isn’t impossible the rest of the way. Get to 20 wins and you always have a chance…and the BigTen tournament provides additional opportunities.

based on the last few years, they are basically telling us that conference tourney play does not matter and the field is all but set by midweek before tourney play is much underway

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Interesting but 10 wins without a Q1 win doesn't do anything for us except for having a respectable season that isn't a disaster

Based on what we know now…..
10 wins with our schedule would leave is -.3 WAB
11 wins would put us .6 above bubble

18-13 record would have us in a conversation. If B1Gt actually matters we could be 1 or 2 wins away.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Yes. I was just surprised that the schedule really isn’t impossible the rest of the way. Get to 20 wins and you always have a chance…and the BigTen tournament provides additional opportunities.

1st problem is we have been competitive on only 1 of 6 games against real opponents

 

[BillyC80]

up a notch to 94

Indiana at 98 so a win not likely to move RU significantly

I’m assuming Indy’s big losses (by 20 to UConn, 28 to Auburn, and 16 to Nebraska) must be a major factor in their NET being worse than ours.

Otherwise it doesn’t make much sense, since they’re 11-4 and 3-1 in the B1G including a win against OSU and a road win at Michigan, while RU is 8-6 and 0-3 in conference, including a loss to OSU plus we have big losses to Illinois and Wake.

 

[fluoxetine]

1st problem is we have been competitive on only 1 of 6 games against real opponents

This seems like an exaggeration.

First, we've played 7 Q1 games, which of those are you not counting as a real opponent? Second, what are we calling "non competitive"

- Against Princeton we are down 2 with 4:39 to go
- Seton Hall we won obviously
- Ohio State we're down 1 with 2:47

That's 3/7.

(Yes, I realize this is still terrible and I'm not sure why I bothered)

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Definitely give credit for us fighting back vs OSU and Princeton. We were in a position to steal them.

Both games we were down a lot. A blueprint of getting down 17 and coming back to win really isnt a good one.

 

[Scangg]

I think we all know that sadly this team is not likely to dance. If we lose tonight, it's really over

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

If our probability of dancing right now is 2% a loss probably drops us to ,7%

 

[BillyC80]

This seems like an exaggeration.

First, we've played 7 Q1 games, which of those are you not counting as a real opponent? Second, what are we calling "non competitive"

- Against Princeton we are down 2 with 4:39 to go
- Seton Hall we won obviously
- Ohio State we're down 1 with 2:47

That's 3/7.

(Yes, I realize this is still terrible and I'm not sure why I bothered)

Plus, I wonder which of our earlier losses (Princeton? MS St?) we would have won with Mag if he were available and playing like he is now. His performance going forward has to factor into our win probabilities for future games.

Even though I picked RU to win tonight, I personally think we should not be favored versus an Indiana team that has a better resume. That said, if Mag comes close to duplicating his performance at Iowa, and we win handily tonight, then I’ll start to believe we can salvage this season and become a bubble team.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

I think we all know that sadly this team is not likely to dance. If we lose tonight, it's really over

Sad, but true. Only a historic run (like 1989, when we were 6-10 at one point) would get us in the big dance.

BTW, I always get a kick out of your avatar, mainly due to Geo's physical appearance. Was he on the juice? At no other time in his career did he ever look like that.

 

[Scangg]

Sad, but true. Only a historic run (like 1989, when we were 6-10 at one point) would get us in the big dance.

BTW, I always get a kick out of your avatar, mainly due to Geo's physical appearance. Was he on the juice? At no other time in his career did he ever look like that.

Funny since recently I thought about changing it to either a current player or my superfan costume but this pic is just soooooo good

 

[bac2therac]

I’m assuming Indy’s big losses (by 20 to UConn, 28 to Auburn, and 16 to Nebraska) must be a major factor in their NET being worse than ours.

Otherwise it doesn’t make much sense, since they’re 11-4 and 3-1 in the B1G including a win against OSU and a road win at Michigan, while RU is 8-6 and 0-3 in conference, including a loss to OSU plus we have big losses to Illinois and Wake.

1 point win over Morehead Q3
9 point win over Wright State Q3
8 point win over Louisville Q4
6 point win over Florida Gulf Cost Q4
8 point win over Army Q4

Their efficiency numbers are likely garbage

With only one quality win tough even to say they would be a tourney team if the committee selected today

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

Funny since recently I thought about changing it to either a current player or my superfan costume but this pic is just soooooo good

Geo Baker or Derek Simpson he is NOT.

 

[bac2therac]

NET up a couple spots to 92

Indiana falls to 103

Nebraska up 13 to 46

 

[LeapinLou]

Here's an interesting nugget. If my scanning skills are good, RU has the 2nd most Q1 losses in the country with 6. Misssissippi Valley, the team ranked dead last in the NET, has 7.

We are 1-6 in Q1 and 8-0 outside of Q1. MV is 0-7 in Q1 and 0-8 outside of Q1.

 

[rutgers1998]

If Rutgers goes 3-2 the rest of January (Beat Nebraska and PSU at home and somehow pick off one of MSU, Illinois or Purdue) we would likely find our selves back on the bubble as long as Seton Hall stays a Q1 win, right?

 

[bac2therac]

If Rutgers goes 3-2 the rest of January (Beat Nebraska and PSU at home and somehow pick off one of MSU, Illinois or Purdue) we would likely find our selves back on the bubble as long as Seton Hall stays a Q1 win, right?

Not on bubble in that they would still not have a tourney worthy resume but yes they still would be in striking range to make a push. Anything less than 3-2 and think the door is shut

 

[bitnez]

Not on bubble in that they would still not have a tourney worthy resume but yes they still would be in striking range to make a push. Anything less than 3-2 and think the door is shut

To kill 5 minutes why not focus on a path to 18.

Maryland, Michigan, Wisconsin, Purdue, Nebraska - all 2x - 6-4
@Minn, @ Mich St - 1-1
NW, PSU, ILL - 2-1

18-13, Probably still not good enough but who knows. Our NET will definitely improve assuming we win games.

 

[BillyC80]

To kill 5 minutes why not focus on a path to 18.

Maryland, Michigan, Wisconsin, Purdue, Nebraska - all 2x - 6-4
@Minn, @ Mich St - 1-1
NW, PSU, ILL - 2-1

18-13, Probably still not good enough but who knows. Our NET will definitely improve assuming we win games.

If this happens, which would be great, our best chance will be to win 2 games in the B1G tournament.

 

[bac2therac]

To kill 5 minutes why not focus on a path to 18.

Maryland, Michigan, Wisconsin, Purdue, Nebraska - all 2x - 6-4
@Minn, @ Mich St - 1-1
NW, PSU, ILL - 2-1

18-13, Probably still not good enough but who knows. Our NET will definitely improve assuming we win games.

I dont think 18-13 will cut it..the only way were if the wins included purdue wisc illinois

 

[rutgers1998]

I dont think 18-13 will cut it..the only way were if the wins included purdue wisc illinois

Even if we avoid any Q3 and Q4 losses?

 

[bac2therac]

If this happens, which would be great, our best chance will be to win 2 games in the B1G tournament.

Tourney play is pretty meaningless the last several years. They are giving us evidence the field is pretty set mid week with just tweaks for conference final upsets

 

[bac2therac]

Even if we avoid any Q3 and Q4 losses?

Problem is q 1 2 3 mark would only be 11-13 very tough to get a bid as an at large from a power conference with that mark. Can RU be 5-10 q1 and 5-3 in q2...that would be a scenerio. RU already has 6 q1 losses which is 2nd in the country. Once you get up to double digit q1 losses you better offset that with a bunch of q1 wins

 

[BillyC80]

Food for thought:
49 teams have only 1 Quad1 win so far. Of those, only 9 teams have no Quad 2/3/4 losses:
Rutgers
Illinois
Syracuse
Oklahoma
San Diego State
South Carolina
Texas Tech
Miami
NC State

16 teams have only 2 Quad1 wins so far. Of those, only 3 teams have no Quad 2/3/4 losses:
Memphis
Tennessee
Alabama

Of the 11 teams that have 3 Quad1 wins so far, these are noteworthy:
Duke has 1 Quad2 loss and 1 Quad3 loss
Nebraska has a Quad2 loss
Northwestern has a Quad4 loss
Seton Hall has 2 Quad2 losses and 1 Quad3 loss
Texas A&M has 1 Quad2 loss and 1 Quad3 loss

Also noteworthy: Villanova has 4 Quad1 wins but 2 Quad2 losses and 2 Quad3 losses