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RUScrew85

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Compound words have always been my Achilles heel. Is it “fire fighter” or “firefighter”? I’d go with the former but I could be wrong.

Well I'm not the guy flexing his "grammar muscles". Nice self own for him though. LOL
 

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I worked in North Caldwell and the surrounding towns when he sent the bomb there.
I actually lived around the corner from the victim in north Caldwell when it happened. Street was totally shut down and Leo was everywhere. For a small town north Caldwell had a lot of strange things happen.
 

brgRC90

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Must be why NYC has a fraction of the crime of Jacksonville...Miami...OKC...Tulsa...

In any case, NYC arrested the world's biggest criminal. And he was just indicted again. Thankfully patriots ensured it!
In and among the Republican propaganda is this reality: New York City's crime rate is 95th, lower than Jacksonville, Fort Worth, Dallas, Houston, Orlando, Miami, Austin, Arlington, Laredo, Irving, Tampa. Facts are pesky things.
 

ashokan

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Must be why NYC has a fraction of the crime of Jacksonville...Miami...OKC...Tulsa...

In any case, NYC arrested the world's biggest criminal. And he was just indicted again. Thankfully patriots ensured it!


NYC has a "fraction" of the crime stats because they stopped responding/recording to crimes/calls. Of course stats are higher where police still function. Many cops also make sure to show-up to calls late (hoping everything is over). "Sanctuary" cops were ignoring a lot of stuff 10 years ago but after the BLM insurrection its much worse.

Shoplifting isn't even really a crime anymore in many places (enabling youths to grow into criminal lifestyle). Lots of people also resist reporting crimes due to fear of retribution, fear of immigration status, acclimation to fact cops wont even show (loose pit bull? Dont bother calling). Plus the fed, state and local govs outright lie on many stats.

"The FBI’s latest statistics show violent crime dropped in the US last year — but the data fails to account for thousands of places, including in big cities like New York and Los Angeles.

Experts say the data, released as part of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report on Wednesday, has some glaring holes due to an “overwhelming” lack of participation by police."

 
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NYC has a "fraction" of the crime stats because they stopped responding/recording to crimes/calls. Of course stats are higher where police still function. Many cops also make sure to show-up to calls late (hoping everything is over). "Sanctuary" cops were ignoring a lot of stuff 10 years ago but after the BLM insurrection its much worse.

Shoplifting isn't even really a crime anymore in many places (enabling youths to grow into criminal lifestyle). Lots of people also resist reporting crimes due to fear of retribution, fear of immigration status, acclimation to fact cops wont even show (loose pit bull? Dont bother calling). Plus the fed, state and local govs outright lie on many stats.

"The FBI’s latest statistics show violent crime dropped in the US last year — but the data fails to account for thousands of places, including in big cities like New York and Los Angeles.

Experts say the data, released as part of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report on Wednesday, has some glaring holes due to an “overwhelming” lack of participation by police."

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RU848789

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But I think we should not kill as a society unless it is kill or be killed. I think you make that a hard and fast rule everything will work out better. I understand the appeal of the death sentence.. I just think we can, and should, rise above that and convincing the majority of that is a worthy goal.
Agreed. This link includes a bunch of additional reasons why I don't support the death penalty.

https://oadp.org/facts/13-reasons
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Agreed. This link includes a bunch of additional reasons why I don't support the death penalty.

https://oadp.org/facts/13-reasons
That list could have gone without this...

"Race and place determine who lives and who dies.
Those who kill whites are more likely to be sentenced to die than those who kill African-Americans. In Oregon, prosecutors from some counties are more likely to pursue the death penalty than others are."​

Too clever by half using "those who kill whites" and "those who kill African-Americans" rather than mentioning the race of the convicted. This can also be explained by the racial makeup of juries which are probably more likely to be majority white where whites are killed.

In any case, race should have nothing to do with it and, IMO, shouldn't even be mentioned by those trying to execute the death penalty. We are talking about a small number these days. So just end it... with the number being so small.. is it really a deterrence?

The number of executions carried out in the USA increased by 64%, rising from 11 in 2021 to 18 in 2022.​
 
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NYC has a "fraction" of the crime stats because they stopped responding/recording to crimes/calls. Of course stats are higher where police still function. Many cops also make sure to show-up to calls late (hoping everything is over). "Sanctuary" cops were ignoring a lot of stuff 10 years ago but after the BLM insurrection its much worse.

Shoplifting isn't even really a crime anymore in many places (enabling youths to grow into criminal lifestyle). Lots of people also resist reporting crimes due to fear of retribution, fear of immigration status, acclimation to fact cops wont even show (loose pit bull? Dont bother calling). Plus the fed, state and local govs outright lie on many stats.

"The FBI’s latest statistics show violent crime dropped in the US last year — but the data fails to account for thousands of places, including in big cities like New York and Los Angeles.

Experts say the data, released as part of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report on Wednesday, has some glaring holes due to an “overwhelming” lack of participation by police."


NY Post. LMAO

You and the people who like your post haven't set a toe in NYC in decades. Worry about the crudholes your side runs where crime is rampant.
 

RUScrew85

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That list could have gone without this...

"Race and place determine who lives and who dies.
Those who kill whites are more likely to be sentenced to die than those who kill African-Americans. In Oregon, prosecutors from some counties are more likely to pursue the death penalty than others are."​

Too clever by half using "those who kill whites" and "those who kill African-Americans" rather than mentioning the race of the convicted. This can also be explained by the racial makeup of juries which are probably more likely to be majority white where whites are killed.

In any case, race should have nothing to do with it and, IMO, shouldn't even be mentioned by those trying to execute the death penalty. We are talking about a small number these days. So just end it... with the number being so small.. is it really a deterrence?

The number of executions carried out in the USA increased by 64%, rising from 11 in 2021 to 18 in 2022.​

Must keep the narrative flowing Komrade. Non-Leftist Whites are the devil.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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Must keep the narrative flowing Komrade. Whites are the debil.
Well that's the issue. It doesn't even say that. It says white lives are valued more than black lives. They have a significant statistical argument in support of that idea. But that would bring up uncomfortable questions.. like do blacks value black lives? That's why it should not even be mentioned in this argument against capital punishment.

And that "In Oregon, prosecutors from some counties are more likely to pursue the death penalty than others are.".. what the hell is that? It could easily be asked why other Oregon prosecutors do NOT pursue the death penalty where it is warranted.

Just end it.

As to your point, there are a slew of reaction videos to a video called "What are we doing to White People" which has 4M views and has not been taken down by Google. And a lot of black "reaction" YouTubers view it and react to it live... as well as a reaction thing to a Thomas Sowell piece on the history of slavery.

I suggest you watch those to realize that many blacks, perhaps most, do not buy into the propaganda from the left. I won't link them nor discuss them further.. that's for the CE board.
 
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NYC has a "fraction" of the crime stats because they stopped responding/recording to crimes/calls. Of course stats are higher where police still function. Many cops also make sure to show-up to calls late (hoping everything is over). "Sanctuary" cops were ignoring a lot of stuff 10 years ago but after the BLM insurrection its much worse.

Shoplifting isn't even really a crime anymore in many places (enabling youths to grow into criminal lifestyle). Lots of people also resist reporting crimes due to fear of retribution, fear of immigration status, acclimation to fact cops wont even show (loose pit bull? Dont bother calling). Plus the fed, state and local govs outright lie on many stats.

"The FBI’s latest statistics show violent crime dropped in the US last year — but the data fails to account for thousands of places, including in big cities like New York and Los Angeles.

Experts say the data, released as part of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report on Wednesday, has some glaring holes due to an “overwhelming” lack of participation by police."

In some states they don't report gun owners who have committed crimes to the FBI. You think other places are 100% honest with their Stats? Murder rates are usually pretty accurate thanks to dead bodies. When you don't like the facts just allege they're not accurate. That way you never have to change your mind.
 
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MADHAT1

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In some states they don't report gun owners who have committed crimes to the FBI. You think other places are 100% honest with their Stats? Murder rates are usually pretty accurate thanks to dead bodies. When you don't like the facts just allege they're not accurate. That way you never have to change your mind.
>In 2020, nine of ten states with the highest per capita violent crime rates leaned Republican, while eight of ten states with the lowest rates leaned Democrat,<

https://gigafact.org/fact-briefs/do-red-states-rank-higher-in-violent-crime-rates-than-blue-states

then there's this
 

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In the 1960s there was a young man that graduated from the University of Michigan. Did some brilliant work in mathematics. Specifically bounded harmonic functions. Then he went on to Berkeley. He was assistant professor. Showed amazing potential. Then he moved to Montana, and blew the competition away.
Absolutely the first thing I think of whenever I hear his name.
 

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What if you took out the violence in the blue cities in those states, red and blue..

It is incredible that you think people cannot see right thru those stats

Then you have New Hampshire and Maine, which are essentially purple states.
 

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Interesting that these statistics are being brought up in a thread where the defendant and most, if not all, of his victims were white,
going back to the previous list of things against capital punishment conference by RU#s.. one of which was how killing whites results in a death sentence more than killing blacks.. in areas that are largely white.. whites kill whites.. and in areas that are largely black, blacks kill blacks. To which I say.. duh.. of course. So if blacks live more in liberal states that do not have the death penalty or are reluctant to pursue it.. of course killing whites in states where they have the death penalty and use it.. of course killing whites is more likely to get you that penalty... including the unibomber.
 

MADHAT1

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What if you took out the violence in the blue cities in those states, red and blue..

It is incredible that you think people cannot see right thru those stats
Expect people to deny the truth, some make a habit of doing that .
If something doesn't fit their political agenda, they deny what goes against what they want to believe.
What I posted goes against what many here want to believe, the truth is meaningless to them if it proves what they believe is wrong
 

RUScrew85

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Without "inner city violence" the US is safe than just about every other "free" country in the world.

Now how did those cities get so criminal? What do they all have in common? Terrible Democrat leadership that treats its citizens as cash cows to be farmed - not citizens to serve and make safe.

You get what you vote for.
 

MADHAT1

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Without "inner city violence" the US is safe than just about every other "free" country in the world.

Now how did those cities get so criminal? What do they all have in common? Terrible Democrat leadership that treats its citizens as cash cows to be farmed - not citizens to serve and make safe.

You get what you vote for.
>Many GOP-led cities reported a high crime rate than New York during that same year.
Oklahoma City, for instance, reported 11.92 murders, 627 violent crimes and 3,716 property crimes for every 100,000 residents, according to crime data compiled by the Federal Bureau of Investigations .

Miami had 10.68 murders, 615 violent crimes and 3,044 property crimes per capita.

Other GOP-led cities with higher murder rates than New York in 2021 include Jacksonville, Florida; Fresno, California; Omaha, Nebraska; Colorado Springs, Colorado and Tulsa, Oklahoma. Fort Worth had a lower rate of murders than New York but experienced other crimes at a higher rate<
https://www.newsweek.com/these-republican-cities-have-higher-crime-rate-new-york-city-1794909
 
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>Many GOP-led cities reported a high crime rate than New York during that same year.
Oklahoma City, for instance, reported 11.92 murders, 627 violent crimes and 3,716 property crimes for every 100,000 residents, according to crime data compiled by the Federal Bureau of Investigations .

Miami had 10.68 murders, 615 violent crimes and 3,044 property crimes per capita.

Other GOP-led cities with higher murder rates than New York in 2021 include Jacksonville, Florida; Fresno, California; Omaha, Nebraska; Colorado Springs, Colorado and Tulsa, Oklahoma. Fort Worth had a lower rate of murders than New York but experienced other crimes at a higher rate<
https://www.newsweek.com/these-republican-cities-have-higher-crime-rate-new-york-city-1794909
Partisan hacks on the right feel the need to hate NYC and everything about it, and hence must spin anything good about the city as a lie and actually bad, while at the same time lauding red state cities with much worse vital statistics, and far fewer assets. They will never admit there is anything good there. For their part, on the left partisan hacks will never admit anything is good about red states or cities. At the end of the day, though, dry stats show that most quality of life indexes are better in blue states and cities with the exception of affordability--and that the federal government transfers huge amounts of money from blue states to red states.
 
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Partisan hacks on the right feel the need to hate NYC and everything about it, and hence must spin anything good about the city as a lie and actually bad, while at the same time lauding red state cities with much worse vital statistics, and far fewer assets. They will never admit there is anything good there. For their part, on the left partisan hacks will never admit anything is good about red states or cities. At the end of the day, though, dry stats show that most quality of life indexes are better in blue states and cities with the exception of affordability--and that the federal government transfers huge amounts of money from blue states to red states.
in other words red states are welfare queens while the blue states have to support them.
Also right wing nut jobs make claimes about crime in blue states refusing to admit crime is running ramped in the red states and GOP run cities are dangerous
 

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>Many GOP-led cities reported a high crime rate than New York during that same year.
Oklahoma City, for instance, reported 11.92 murders, 627 violent crimes and 3,716 property crimes for every 100,000 residents, according to crime data compiled by the Federal Bureau of Investigations .

Miami had 10.68 murders, 615 violent crimes and 3,044 property crimes per capita.

Other GOP-led cities with higher murder rates than New York in 2021 include Jacksonville, Florida; Fresno, California; Omaha, Nebraska; Colorado Springs, Colorado and Tulsa, Oklahoma. Fort Worth had a lower rate of murders than New York but experienced other crimes at a higher rate<
https://www.newsweek.com/these-republican-cities-have-higher-crime-rate-new-york-city-1794909
 
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in other words red states are welfare queens while the blue states have to support them.
Also right wing nut jobs make claimes about crime in blue states refusing to admit crime is running ramped in the red states and GOP run cities are dangerous
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in other words red states are welfare queens while the blue states have to support them.
Some red states are. The last I saw Texas was roughly break even but many smaller red states get back 2 or 3 dollars for every dollar they put in. On the other hand, CA, NY and NJ get leeched for tens of billions each year. It adds up. Lots of red states get to keep their tax rates lower as a result and then tout their wonderful low taxes.

As for crime, the states with the highest crime rates are mostly red and the states with the lowest ones mostly blue, though there are some red states like the Dakotas and Northern rocky mountain states that have very low rates, too. Basically, the states that dominate the bottom of the charts for everything are usually southern.

The blue states are not perfect and lag in some things, like affordability--they absolutely need to build more housing and get taxes down--but most stats show that quality of life is better in blue states, including income, education, obesity rates and life expectancy.
 
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in other words red states are welfare queens while the blue states have to support them.
Also right wing nut jobs make claimes about crime in blue states refusing to admit crime is running ramped in the red states and GOP run cities are dangerous
Are you hitting Hunter's Crackpot?
 

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Are you hitting Hunter's Crackpot?
No.. it is just that the propaganda machine's answer to all this talk about crumbling cities with Dems in charge is to point to "red states" and a couple GOP cities that have a specific crime stat that looks worse than a specific Dem city (that is not, yet, crumbling).. Bakersfield and Jacksonville you often see mentioned. And I am certain should typical Dem voters in some city decide to try something else and vote in a GOP challenger, then that is the moment where that cities past crime stats become the responsibility of the new GOP mayor.
 

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No.. it is just that the propaganda machine's answer to all this talk about crumbling cities with Dems in charge is to point to "red states" and a couple GOP cities that have a specific crime stat that looks worse than a specific Dem city (that is not, yet, crumbling).. Bakersfield and Jacksonville you often see mentioned. And I am certain should typical Dem voters in some city decide to try something else and vote in a GOP challenger, then that is the moment where that cities past crime stats become the responsibility of the new GOP mayor.
again the what you don't like doesn't exist defense. the righter always use.
When caught giving misinformation, claim it's alternative facts because the truth doesn't agree with what righters want to believe.
 

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again the what you don't like doesn't exist defense. the righter always use.
When caught giving misinformation, claim it's alternative facts because the truth doesn't agree with what righters want to believe.
Sort of like the 6 years of ******** about Russia Russia Russia and the fake laptop and the border is secure, and inflation is transitory lmfao.
 
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