OT: Ted Kaczynski dead

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In the 1960s there was a young man that graduated from the University of Michigan. Did some brilliant work in mathematics. Specifically bounded harmonic functions. Then he went on to Berkeley. He was assistant professor. Showed amazing potential. Then he moved to Montana, and blew the competition away.
 

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In the 1960s there was a young man that graduated from the University of Michigan. Did some brilliant work in mathematics. Specifically bounded harmonic functions. Then he went on to Berkeley. He was assistant professor. Showed amazing potential. Then he moved to Montana, and blew the competition away.

But it WAS his fault
 

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In the 1960s there was a young man that graduated from the University of Michigan. Did some brilliant work in mathematics. Specifically bounded harmonic functions. Then he went on to Berkeley. He was assistant professor. Showed amazing potential. Then he moved to Montana, and blew the competition away.

Ramanujan?
 

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And we taxpayers fed him and provided healthcare for 25 years. I think the death penalty should rarely be the sentence. This a case where it was warrented.

I used to support the Death sentence but realized now (or maybe its always been this way) that the government can't be trusted to fairly take a life. He'll they really can't be trusted to do anything not in their interests. Therefore I don't think they should have the power to take a life.

Maybe consider exile. Buy an island, send capitol criminals there to fend for themselves.
 

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And we taxpayers fed him and provided healthcare for 25 years. I think the death penalty should rarely be the sentence. This a case where it was warrented.
It is actually cheaper, to imprison a person for the rest of their life than execute someone with all of the legal appeals, if you are just looking at dollars and cents.
 
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RUScrew85

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It is actually cheaper, to imprison a person for the rest of their life than execute someone with all of the legal appeals, if you are just looking at dollars and cents.

I don't know man. All those prosecutors are already getting paid death penalty or not, aren't they?
 

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I worked in North Caldwell and the surrounding towns when he sent the bomb there.
I don’t really remember reading about that in the news when it happened, but man after reading the linked story, what a heinous crime.
 

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Oh cool we get to pay for the defense too? I guess the ACLU doesn't do the donation thing anymore?
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Appeals: To minimize mistakes, every prisoner is entitled to a series of appeals. The costs are borne at taxpayers' expense. These appeals are essential because some inmates have come within hours of execution before evidence was uncovered proving their innocence.
 

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I used to support the Death sentence but realized now (or maybe its always been this way) that the government can't be trusted to fairly take a life. He'll they really can't be trusted to do anything not in their interests. Therefore I don't think they should have the power to take a life.

Maybe consider exile. Buy an island, send capitol criminals there to fend for themselves.
Geez. That seems harsh for the Jan 6th Capitol criminals…although if they are TRUE libertarians it might make sense.
Of course if you meant capital criminals, nevermind.
 

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linky:
Appeals: To minimize mistakes, every prisoner is entitled to a series of appeals. The costs are borne at taxpayers' expense. These appeals are essential because some inmates have come within hours of execution before evidence was uncovered proving their innocence.
So the bottom line is more motions, more appeals, more cost. Seems simple.
 

RU4Real

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I know a guy on death row in Florida. He's the same age as my dad's younger sister. Killed his family and a bystander in the family furniture on Christmas Eve in, I think, '75 in Winter Garden, FL. He's been on death row for 47 years. The appeals have been endless. I can't imagine how much the state of Florida has spent keeping him locked up in segregation for nearly half a century.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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So the bottom line is more motions, more appeals, more cost. Seems simple.
But I think we should not kill as a society unless it is kill or be killed. I think you make that a hard and fast rule everything will work out better. I understand the appeal of the death sentence.. I just think we can, and should, rise above that and convincing the majority of that is a worthy goal.
 

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I know a guy on death row in Florida. He's the same age as my dad's younger sister. Killed his family and a bystander in the family furniture on Christmas Eve in, I think, '75 in Winter Garden, FL. He's been on death row for 47 years. The appeals have been endless. I can't imagine how much the state of Florida has spent keeping him locked up in segregation for nearly half a century.
 

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And we taxpayers fed him and provided healthcare for 25 years. I think the death penalty should rarely be the sentence. This a case where it was warrented.
I think we should expand the use of the death penalty to cover even more types of violent crimes. And limit the number of appeals. People who prey on the weak don’t qualify as human, they’re rabid animals who should be put down like any other rabid animal.
 

RUScrew85

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Geez. That seems harsh for the Jan 6th Capitol criminals…although if they are TRUE libertarians it might make sense.
Of course if you meant capital criminals, nevermind.

Yeah I always get those capital/capitol mixed up. But yeah the other guys are right, you're a dipshit.

It's funny how many time Leftists have to inject their politics into a thread.

Oh and since you're being a grammar Nazi you might want to check the way you used the single word "nevermind". I think its a noun as one word. Did you mean to use "Never mind", as in "Forget it"? That might need two words. But I'm sure you couldn't be wrong.
 
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RUScrew85

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But I think we should not kill as a society unless it is kill or be killed. I think you make that a hard and fast rule everything will work out better. I understand the appeal of the death sentence.. I just think we can, and should, rise above that and convincing the majority of that is a worthy goal.

I don't have a problem with society putting down an animal rapist, killer, child molester. I just don't think the government society has put in place is trustworthy enough nor are juries serious enough to be trusted with that power. Not in this society.

If folks were serious enough and government trustworthy enough I'd be all for it when appropriate.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Yep.

Funny thing was, we were in town that Christmas, spending it with the extended family. All the adults were out, my cousins and I were watching the coverage on the Orlando tv stations the night of the murders. Tommy was always a weird dude, by all accounts.
If he were responsible for that Apple Cider I'd say let him off... unless he killed the family responsible for the cider.
 
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I don't have a problem with society putting down an animal rapist, killer, child molester. I just don't think the government society has put in place is trustworthy enough nor are juries serious enough to be trusted with that power. Not in this society.

If folks were serious enough and government trustworthy enough I'd be all for it when appropriate.
If lawyers had to select an even balance of male and female jurors for a particular case, you couldn't even be certain that would be "truly" possible. 😁
 
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Yeah I always get those capital/capitol mixed up. But yeah the other guys are right, you're a dipshit.

It's funny how many time Leftists have to inject their politics into a thread.

Oh and since you're being a grammar Nazi you might want to check the way you used the single word "nevermind". I think its a noun as one word. Did you mean to use "Never mind", as in "Forget it"? That might need two words. But I'm sure you couldn't be wrong.
I was just trying to have fun…furthest thing from a grammar nazi. I do enjoy however when the term ‘leftist’ (not you necessarily, just in general) is used for anyone who questions a fascist dictator like Putin. Nuance and a little geopolitical knowledge are your friends.
 

MADHAT1

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I don't have a problem with society putting down an animal rapist, killer, child molester. I just don't think the government society has put in place is trustworthy enough nor are juries serious enough to be trusted with that power. Not in this society.

If folks were serious enough and government trustworthy enough I'd be all for it when appropriate.
actually the death penalty might not be used right.
In some cases it might be too harsh, even if a murder.
But some like the animals you mentioned and most cop killers
deserve to be put down
The reason I think the death penalty is being used wrong is because
besides giving the animals their just due, the sick might benefit from
them being executed for hideous crimes by having their organs harvest for use by those in dire need of a transplant.

The one problem with my idea might be that the organs might not be suitable because of the age of the scum put down and everyone conedmed to die deserves a fair shot to be proven innoocent of the charge convicted for or be able to prove they aren't the type of scum that deserves to die and not be executed but spend the rest of their life in prison instead
 

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Don't be so quick or so certain.

I think it is more likely than not that Kaczinski was a subject of the CIA program MK-Ultra which sought to control minds using substances such as LSD, according to a document the CIA made publicly available in 2018.


Theodore J. Kaczynski '62, who was arrested in 1996 after killing three and injuring 16 in a string of mail bombings spread over 20 years, participated in an intensive, sometimes brutal, three-year psychological study while a Harvard undergraduate.

The results of the study, directed by famed psychologist Henry A. Murray, are now housed at the Radcliffe Institute research center named in Murray's honor. But though the records may shed light on Kaczynski's psychological history, the Murray Center has locked the file up for good.
 

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Yeah I always get those capital/capitol mixed up. But yeah the other guys are right, you're a dipshit.

It's funny how many time Leftists have to inject their politics into a thread.

Oh and since you're being a grammar Nazi you might want to check the way you used the single word "nevermind". I think its a noun as one word. Did you mean to use "Never mind", as in "Forget it"? That might need two words. But I'm sure you couldn't be wrong.
Compound words have always been my Achilles heel. Is it “fire fighter” or “firefighter”? I’d go with the former but I could be wrong.
 
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