I sure do remember. What a team: Pele, Chinaglia, Beckenbauer, and many more. So interesting that soccer is struggling to gain/maintain a foothold in America, but I was in Giants Stadium when it was SOLD OUT - 76K - for Cosmos games.I'm sure many on this board remember seeing him play in NJ for the Cosmos. His presence here single-handedly raised the profile of soccer in the USA and it continues to grow today, with the US Men's National Team having played in every World Cup since 1990, except for 2018, after having played in none between 1950 and 1990.
His life bio is one for the ages.
R.I.P. great one.
Why no thread about him?
When we talk about GOATS how come we never mention him ? People compare Ruth, Gretzky, MJ , Thorpe, Nicklaus and others but never Pele.
Is it because soccer isn’t big in the US ? Same for tennis ? But has there ever been a bigger international star?
How does he compare with Gretzky, who I think would be the only other on Pele’s level . Or is someone else even more the GOAT ?
Why no thread about him?
When we talk about GOATS how come we never mention him ? People compare Ruth, Gretzky, MJ , Thorpe, Nicklaus and others but never Pele.
Is it because soccer isn’t big in the US ? Same for tennis ? But has there ever been a bigger international star?
How does he compare with Gretzky, who I think would be the only other on Pele’s level . Or is someone else even more the GOAT ?
Messi is the goat. Respect to Pele’. RIPWhy no thread about him?
When we talk about GOATS how come we never mention him ? People compare Ruth, Gretzky, MJ , Thorpe, Nicklaus and others but never Pele.
Is it because soccer isn’t big in the US ? Same for tennis ? But has there ever been a bigger international star?
How does he compare with Gretzky, who I think would be the only other on Pele’s level . Or is someone else even more the GOAT ?
His team Santos and the league he played in was a considered a pro league, no?Oops.
All those you mention, with the possible exception of Thorpe from over a century ago, are associated with professional sports. Virtually non-existent when Pele played (yeah he ended his career with the Cosmos) and nowhere near the platform of those sports today.
His team Santos and the league he played in was a considered a pro league, no?
So because it did not happen in the US a GOAT status cannot be earned/aquired?Not in the US
So because it did not happen in the US a GOAT status cannot be earned/aquired?
But Pele is, even though it didn’t happen here (for the most part).On the world stage, sure. The US not really. Soccer has barely reached the stage here where there could be a GOAT.
But Pele is, even though it didn’t happen here (for the most part).
Maybe not in your bubble, but go anywhere else in the world and they will tell you. The USA is only a fraction of the world population.But go back to near the top of this thread, this was in response to the question of why, in comparing GOATs, he's never mentioned like Ruth, MJ, Nicklaus etc.
Maybe not in your bubble, but go anywhere else in the world and they will tell you. The USA is only a fraction of the world population.
so if a US sport isn't big in other parts of the world, a US GOAT doesn't have GOAT status outside of the USA and just is one of the sheep playing an American sport.On the world stage, sure. The US not really. Soccer has barely reached the stage here where there could be a GOAT.
That makes no sense.On the world stage, sure. The US not really. Soccer has barely reached the stage here where there could be a GOAT.
If your leaving out the rest of the World, of course.But go back to near the top of this thread, this was in response to the question of why, in comparing GOATs, he's never mentioned like Ruth, MJ, Nicklaus etc.
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