OT: 2022-23 Coaching Carousel

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I see Rhule's name still being mentioned for the Nebraska position.
Guess the reports of him turning down the job was wrong or new offer was given.

Nebraska coaching search turns to Lance Leipold, Kalen DeBoer if Matt Rhule indeed withdrew name: CBS Sports
>Echoing what Husker247 reported Sunday for VIP members, CBS Sports' Dennis Dodd wrote Tuesday that "the word from several sources" was Rhule turned down Nebraska. Dodd then questioned if Lance Leipold of Kansas would be the top choice before adding that Washington's Kalen DeBoer is "another name to watch."<
https://247sports.com/Article/Nebra...le-indeed-withdrew-name-CBS-Sports-198303700/
 
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I see Rhule's name still being mentioned for the Nebraska position.
Guess the reports of him turning down the job was wrong or new offer was given.

Nebraska coaching search turns to Lance Leipold, Kalen DeBoer if Matt Rhule indeed withdrew name: CBS Sports
>Echoing what Husker247 reported Sunday for VIP members, CBS Sports' Dennis Dodd wrote Tuesday that "the word from several sources" was Rhule turned down Nebraska. Dodd then questioned if Lance Leipold of Kansas would be the top choice before adding that Washington's Kalen DeBoer is "another name to watch."<
https://247sports.com/Article/Nebra...le-indeed-withdrew-name-CBS-Sports-198303700/
He’s been up there and I mentioned a good chance for it from what I've read. There are few reporters that probably have a slightly better pulse on these kind of things than others. I was even wondering awhile back if the interim HC offering Fran Brown's son meant anything with regards to Rhule and Brown down the line.







Edit: An Athletic article said he’s been at or near the top of their list. They had offered the job earlier this month and then came back with a stronger offer. He’s owed 35-40M from Carolina so maybe the better offer might be related to assistant pool vs his salary.
 
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Ohio State is a better job. It's easier to get to the playoff from the B1G than from the SEC. Michigan, Michigan State, Maryland, and Penn State are not exactly Georgia, Alabama, and LSU.
Disagree, LSU has 2 losses and will get a spot after this week if they can beat the 4-7 TAM team.
 
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Seems like the Colorado Deion connection has some legs. Colorado has offered him the job and he has legit interest. I’m guessing he’s waiting to see if anything better comes along and if not he’d take it.

 
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NU really doesn’t care how long the deal is for. If it isn’t working they will fire them and write a check. Unfortunately that seems to be their process.
Too many schools like that imo but the schools with less resources shouldn’t be following this pattern but inexplcably quite a few do. Be smart and judicious. Leipold was hired for less than 3M, DeBoer for 3M but they recently just signed new deals so don’t know for how much or how long. Jonathan Smith signed for relatively lower numbers too. You can’t assume things will work or performance will be consistent and if not you should have a manageable out and not be stuck. Even a fricking schools with the deep pockets of A&M looks like it’s stuck with Fisher for now.
 

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NU really doesn’t care how long the deal is for. If it isn’t working they will fire them and write a check. Unfortunately that seems to be their process.
Yes and it is that attitude that continues to keep these salaries spiraling way beyond what these guys are worth and leads to more clamoring from players to pay me more in part due to how much the coach makes.
 
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Looks like Auburn is zeroing in on Freeze now. Think he’s a good name that’s done it in the SEC. Dellenger confirming Thamel’s earlier report.

 
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Seems like the Colorado Deion connection has some legs. Colorado has offered him the job and he has legit interest. I’m guessing he’s waiting to see if anything better comes along and if not he’d take it.


Haven’t seen much about the other half of the rumor with regards to Deion and USF other than he interviewed with them.

I hope he takes the Colorado offer. Curious to see what his star power and personality can do at a big time struggling program like that.
 
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And another crazy long deal and number imo





He forgot Stoops who just got one too at 9M. They all can’t be winners and some will be mediocre or worse. That’s a lot of money for that.
 
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Looks like Auburn is zeroing in on Freeze now. Think he’s a good name that’s done it in the SEC. Dellenger confirming Thamel’s earlier report.


Not sold on Freeze. He cratered at the end of this year. Losses to UConn, Va Tech and New Mexico State. Hard pass.
 

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Shaw's statement included comments about the difficulty of transitioning to the new NIL/transfer portal environment at a place like Stanford where change does not happen quickly. Made it clear its not the reason he was leaving but its worthy of note that those who have been around for awhile are not necessarily "enjoying" this new environment. I could see Stanford being a leader for further reforms in college athletics.
 
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Shaw's statement included comments about the difficulty of transitioning to the new NIL/transfer portal environment at a place like Stanford where change does not happen quickly. Made it clear its not the reason he was leaving but its worthy of note that those who have been around for awhile are not necessarily "enjoying" this new environment. I could see Stanford being a leader for further reforms in college athletics.
I've said I don't think portal matters to most schools because you get players, you lose players. I mentioned though that places like Stanford/NW and maybe a couple others could have issues. They could lose players but they have a hard time getting new ones because of the higher bar to get in. So I can see it be a problem for those schools but not most.

Stanford's pro style of play is also harder to execute at school like that. IMO, some sort of tempo/spread offense is a better avenue just like us and schools like us. Elko hired Kevin Johns (a name I've mentioned for us in the past as OC) as the Duke OC and he's worked with Kevin Wilson at IU and Mike Norvell at Memphis.
 
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As to candidates for Stanford, haven't seen much out there yet. Would Chris Petersen want to come back? Troy Calhoun at AF? Elko switch coasts from Duke?
 
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We did it for a guy who literally no one besides us wanted…🤷‍♂️
Just about everyone is doing it these days and that's ill advised IMO.

The smart ones will look for the DeBoer, Leipold, Smith, Elko types and give them a reasonable contract. It's not like you're short changing them. They're going to make millions of dollars but if things don't work you can get out. ADs have more leverage than they think. They have the keys to a limited number of multimillion dollar jobs. The first 3 have had their deals redone so I don't know how they're structured now. Salary bump didn't seem too bad in DeBoer's new deal but length I don't remember.
 

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I've said I don't think portal matters to most schools because you get players, you lose players. I mentioned though that places like Stanford/NW and maybe a couple others could have issues. They could lose players but they have a hard time getting new ones because of the higher bar to get in. So I can see it be a problem for those schools but not most.

Stanford's pro style of play is also harder to execute at school like that. IMO, some sort of tempo/spread offense is a better avenue just like us and schools like us. Elko hired Kevin Johns (a name I've mentioned for us in the past as OC) as the Duke OC and he's worked with Kevin Wilson at IU and Mike Norvell at Memphis.
Maybe I misinterpret what you are saying about but did you miss the part where Shaw said: "You have to be active in the transfer portal to be competitive." ?

Rutgers has a different problem on offense. What offensive player would want to come in and play for RU's mess of an offense where the head coach is a boa constrictor that suffocates any offensive philosophy? We may never know why Taj Harris left, but maybe he saw the writing on the wall in game 1 and was smart to bail so that he could highlight his skills at a program with a functional offense. Even Sean Ryan could have done much better at another program, and he seems to have the skill set to at least get a walk on position, but he may be imagining what his NFL chances might have been if he transferred to another school.

Sorry for the beat down on RU in this thread, but some of what Shaw said also sounds a lot like coach speak, particularly Schiano speak about being close. At least with Stanford, they were putting up points in their losses to ranked teams.
 
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Maybe I misinterpret what you are saying about but did you miss the part where Shaw said: "You have to be active in the transfer portal to be competitive." ?

Rutgers has a different problem on offense. What offensive player would want to come in and play for RU's mess of an offense where the head coach is a boa constrictor that suffocates any offensive philosophy? We may never know why Taj Harris left, but maybe he saw the writing on the wall in game 1 and was smart to bail so that he could highlight his skills at a program with a functional offense. Even Sean Ryan could have done much better at another program, and he seems to have the skill set to at least get a walk on position, but he may be imagining what his NFL chances might have been if he transferred to another school.

Sorry for the beat down on RU in this thread, but some of what Shaw said also sounds a lot like coach speak, particularly Schiano speak about being close. At least with Stanford, they were putting up points in their losses to ranked teams.
Maybe he's saying it's hard for Stanford to be active in the portal because their entrance requirements are a high bar to get transfers in. NW could be the same but that's not the case for most schools.
 
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Can you explain what this means with respect to Eugene? Looked at his bio (I see he has been hired), but still don't get wtf that tweet is trying to say. Maybe my head is still hurting from yesterday.
He's the OC at Oregon. He's an alum from ASU and been hired by ASU as their HC. If Oregon had won yesterday or WSU had won yesterday he would've come down to ASU for a quick presser and then quickly back up to Eugene, Oregon to prepare for the PAC 12 title game. Since Oregon lost and Washington won Oregon is out of the PAC12 title game so he doesn't need to go back to Eugene and instead can stay at ASU and meet everyone there.

edit: I posted about his hire earlier in the thread, you might have missed it
 
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He's the OC at Oregon. He's an alum from ASU and been hired by ASU as their HC. If Oregon had won yesterday or WSU had won yesterday he would've come down to ASU for a quick presser and then quickly back up to Eugene, Oregon to prepare for the PAC 12 title game. Since Oregon lost and Washington won Oregon is out of the PAC12 title game so he doesn't need to go back to Eugene and instead can stay at ASU and meet everyone there.

edit: I posted about his hire earlier in the thread, you might have missed it
I'm sorry. I still have 10 ice packs on my head from yesterday. Could you draw a picture? 😜 (I got it now, but that tweet was poorly worded with "ASU was planning. . . .").
 
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He's the OC at Oregon. He's an alum from ASU and been hired by ASU as their HC. If Oregon had won yesterday or WSU had won yesterday he would've come down to ASU for a quick presser and then quickly back up to Eugene, Oregon to prepare for the PAC 12 title game. Since Oregon lost and Washington won Oregon is out of the PAC12 title game so he doesn't need to go back to Eugene and instead can stay at ASU and meet everyone there.

edit: I posted about his hire earlier in the thread, you might have missed it
One last question on Dillingham- does this mean he is off the table to be RU's next OC? 🥴
 
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One last question on Dillingham- does this mean he is off the table to be RU's next OC? 🥴
The unrealistic names are ones like Garrett Riley at TCU and Alex Golesh at Tenn. The one "realistic" path for it to happen is exactly what Dillingham or Rhett Lashlee before him did. It won't be for money or anything else but just the opportunity to "be your own man" on offense and come out from under the umbrella of offensive coaches like Dykes and Heupel.

You prove yourself on your own and you have a shot at HC spots just like Dillingham has done now getting the ASU job. He came out from under Norvell at FSU to work for a defensive coach in Lanning at Oregon, their offense did well and now he's got the ASU job. Lashlee did similar coming out from under Malzahn to go to UConn then SMU then Miami and now he's the SMU HC.
 
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The unrealistic names are ones like Garrett Riley at TCU and Alex Golesh at Tenn. The one "realistic" path for it to happen is exactly what Dillingham or Rhett Lashlee before him did. It won't be for money or anything else but just the opportunity to "be your own man" on offense and come out from under the umbrella of offensive coaches like Dykes and Heupel.

You prove yourself on your own and you have a shot at HC spots just like Dillingham has done now getting the ASU job. He came out from under Norvell at FSU to work for a defensive coach in Lanning at Oregon, their offense did well and now he's got the ASU job. Lashlee did similar coming out from under Malzahn to go to UConn then SMU then Miami and now he's the SMU HC.
So what are your realistic names for RU OC?
 
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So what are your realistic names for RU OC?
The Fordham guy(s). Not sure who was in charge off their change in offense to Briles/Heupel style. I read articles that it was their OC Kevin Decker but I see their HC Joe Conlin mentioned as OC candidate for us. So whomever of those two who was responsible for their offense the last two years. No guarantees that they work but they’re realistic gets.
 
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The Fordham guy(s). Not sure who was in charge off their change in offense to Briles/Heupel style. I read articles that it was their OC Kevin Decker but I see their HC Joe Conlin mentioned as OC candidate for us. So whomever of those two who was responsible for their offense the last two years. No guarantees that they work but they’re realistic gets.
As long as Greg keeps his hands off the offense.
 
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Maybe I misinterpret what you are saying about but did you miss the part where Shaw said: "You have to be active in the transfer portal to be competitive." ?

Rutgers has a different problem on offense. What offensive player would want to come in and play for RU's mess of an offense where the head coach is a boa constrictor that suffocates any offensive philosophy? We may never know why Taj Harris left, but maybe he saw the writing on the wall in game 1 and was smart to bail so that he could highlight his skills at a program with a functional offense. Even Sean Ryan could have done much better at another program, and he seems to have the skill set to at least get a walk on position, but he may be imagining what his NFL chances might have been if he transferred to another school.

Sorry for the beat down on RU in this thread, but some of what Shaw said also sounds a lot like coach speak, particularly Schiano speak about being close. At least with Stanford, they were putting up points in their losses to ranked teams.
Here you go, an excerpt from an Athletic article. This is what I mean with regards to Stanford/NW and maybe a couple others.
Most other teams it’s players in players out but for Stanford/NW, it’s players out but not much in.

From the article:
Shaw had spoken publicly recently about the need for Stanford, with its high academic standards, to adapt to the NIL and transfer portal era. The Cardinal had just one transfer on their roster this season. The Pac-12 average (excluding Stanford) was 26.
 
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Carousel on a roll now

Wisconsin has targeted Luke Fickell to be the school's next head coach, sources told ESPN. No deal is signed, but there's a strong push by the Badgers to try and land Fickell in the next 48 hours.



 
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