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that’s not all pensionable.
What are you talking about? It’s directly from the pension website. I know for a fact the Edison chief takes home more than what is listed there. And who said anything about pensionable or not?
 

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What are you talking about? It’s directly from the pension website. I know for a fact the Edison chief takes home more than what is listed there. And who said anything about pensionable or not?
I’m not trying to argue I’m just telling you that all of their extra duty is not pensionable.
 

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I’m not trying to argue I’m just telling you that all of their extra duty is not pensionable.
You are the one that is saying extra duty. I know my LT buddy stopped doing extra duty years ago when they were all getting jammed up. He is on the list at $224 salary.
I never said anything about pensionable. I was always talking salary benefits and pension payments. Which bring that compensation responsibility to the township much higher than what is listed.
 

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I’m not going to argue about it I’m just informing you. Yes you can make over $200K a year salary In those towns as a supervisor even without overtime, extra duty, etc. I’m just saying you’re not going to make 200k as a retired officer from your pension. You’ll make 65% of what your last years salary was, minus extra duty/overtime.
 

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I’m not going to argue about it I’m just informing you. Yes you can make over $200K a year salary In those towns as a supervisor even without overtime, extra duty, etc. I’m just saying you’re not going to make 200k as a retired officer from your pension. You’ll make 65% of what your last years salary was, minus extra duty/overtime.
No kidding. That was never the discussion.
 

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I’m not going to argue about it I’m just informing you. Yes you can make over $200K a year salary In those towns as a supervisor even without overtime, extra duty, etc. I’m just saying you’re not going to make 200k as a retired officer from your pension. You’ll make 65% of what your last years salary was, minus extra duty/overtime.
I would think most rutgers grads are qualified enough to move up to supervising level .
Anyway Geo has a lot of options !!! He got some good life advice here
 
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Plenty of regular cops in certain areas making 200+ Depends on the area. I’m not condemning cops for making that money. Have many family members that are cops.
Was merely responding to ritgerskid that said Edison was nowhere near 200k. Looks like there are 50 Edison cops make 175+
can't say you're wrong because I can only google the info trying to find what you know.
But it seems like there's a difference in what you know and what I found
Police or Sheriff's Patrol Sergeant Salary in Edison, New Jersey | Salary.com
https://www.salary.com/research/salary/alternate/police-or-sheriffs-patrol-sergeant-salary/edison-nj
 

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MADHAT1

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You’re not searching the public records there . Data universe.
well give me a hand and show your work on "looks like there are 50 Edison cops make 175+ "
As I said : " can't say you're wrong because I can only google the info trying to find what you know.
But it seems like there's a difference in what you know and what I found"

I dan't know for sure,, but feel salary.com bases their salary claim on the public records they found ..
 

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well give me a hand and show your work on "looks like there are 50 Edison cops make 175+ "
As I said : " can't say you're wrong because I can only google the info trying to find what you know.
But it seems like there's a difference in what you know and what I found"

I dan't know for sure,, but feel salary.com bases their salary claim on the public records they found ..
well give me a hand and show your work on "looks like there are 50 Edison cops make 175+ "
As I said : " can't say you're wrong because I can only google the info trying to find what you know.
But it seems like there's a difference in what you know and what I found"

I dan't know for sure,, but feel salary.com bases their salary claim on the public records they found ..
You can go to data universe and search by name . Just Google some names , some guys were recently arrested or in the news so shouldn’t be hard to find.
Not sure why you are arguing .
Cop is a good and important career . It is not for everyone, but is a great career choice for those that it is for
 

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You can go to data universe and search by name . Just Google some names , some guys were recently arrested or in the news so shouldn’t be hard to find.
Not sure why you are arguing .
Cop is a good and important career . It is not for everyone, but is a great career choice for those that it is for
wasn't arguing with you as much as trying to make sure police officers weren't being put down and implied that they're overpaid
 

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wasn't arguing with you as much as trying to make sure police officers weren't being put down and implied that they're overpaid
I don’t think anyone in this thread said that . You posted don’t go educational or law enforcement career paths.
 

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well give me a hand and show your work on "looks like there are 50 Edison cops make 175+ "
As I said : " can't say you're wrong because I can only google the info trying to find what you know.
But it seems like there's a difference in what you know and what I found"

I dan't know for sure,, but feel salary.com bases their salary claim on the public records they found ..
I attached the link directly to the NJ state pension database. Which includes all participants and their salaries. Click on the link and search away. You can be as specific (name) or broad as you want(pension,town,county etc…). Click on link select county (Middlesex), then town (Edison), then specific pension(police fire) and you will see there are 300 or so participants in that category both police and fire.
Not sure why you would go to a random website like salary.com which is never correct. And use that as source.
 
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I attached the link directly to the NJ state pension database. Which includes all participants and their salaries. Click on the link and search away. You can be as specific (name) or broad as you want(pension,town,county etc…). Click on link select county (Middlesex), then town (Edison), then specific pension(police fire) and you will see there are 300 or so participants in that category both police and fire.
Not sure why you would go to a random website like salary.com which is never correct. And use that as source.
and I used it, replying with this:
"Checked one high salaried ( just listed as police and fireman's retirement system in that salary link from Bayonne) and he's the Chief of Police.
So when you look at what they make be sure to find out what they do and not just think they are regular members of the force making the big bucks."

Didn't feel like going down list then googling name to see what position on the force the person has.
Did one with a high salary that was in the link you posted and that link only showed earnings according to the retirement system and not the position held.in which I had to check outside the link you supplied and found out that person was chief of police.
Rather then do an in-depth search went to salary.com for a generalization salary search.

Both of our links don't show the full picture and both require more through investigation to show the whole picture about earnings.
So I'll take your word about what retirement link shows, but will understand for a more accurate finding need to find out what position held, patrol officer or higher and breakdown of earnings..
Mine can be considered a guess if you like or just plain inaccurate., because t realy doesn't show enough to be considered trustworthy only something that gives a general idea about salary
 

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and I used it, replying with this:
"Checked one high salaried ( just listed as police and fireman's retirement system in that salary link from Bayonne) and he's the Chief of Police.
So when you look at what they make be sure to find out what they do and not just think they are regular members of the force making the big bucks."

Didn't feel like going down list then googling name to see what position on the force the person has.
Did one with a high salary that was in the link you posted and that link only showed earnings according to the retirement system and not the position held.in which I had to check outside the link you supplied and found out that person was chief of police.
Rather then do an in-depth search went to salary.com for a generalization salary search.

Both of our links don't show the full picture and both require more through investigation to show the whole picture about earnings.
So I'll take your word about what retirement link shows, but will understand for a more accurate finding need to find out what position held, patrol officer or higher and breakdown of earnings..
Mine can be considered a guess if you like or just plain inaccurate., because t realy doesn't show enough to be considered trustworthy only something that gives a general idea about salary
Don’t understand what you are trying to say and the relevance within the initial discussion. Someone mentioned a career path that would allow for a good income(police officer). What that persons title or responsibility has no bearing on this discussion. But it is why I put title (LT/sgt) and years of experience in my earlier post. Police in NJ do well and in Edison very well.
When someone says that you can have a nice career working at a bank do you automatically think of a CEO’s salary?
 
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Don’t understand what you are trying to say and the relevance within the initial discussion. Someone mentioned a career path that would allow for a good income(police officer). What that persons title or responsibility has no bearing on this discussion. Police in NJ do well and in Edison very well.
When someone says that you can have a nice career working at a bank do you automatically think of a CEO’s salary?
I just checked one person in the link you posted and only found salary earned as reported.
Didn't see anything about position held to earn that type of salary
I had to go outside the link you supplied to find what position held which is a reason why the pay might be high.
The original discussion was , in my understanding , about regular police officers and not supervision..
I didn't want to go through the trouble of looking for and findinmg out who were patrol officers by seeing names on that list and having to go outside of it to find position held like I did the name that wound up being a chief of police position not listed in the salary link you provided.

So wasn't automatically looking for head of department, just looking for position held because your link didn't give job description.
That is why I said just don't go by salary listed, find out what the person's position in the department is.
As for that not having a bearing on what thjis discussion is about, what position a person holds in a company has a direct bearing on what their earnings are.
Whether it's the police department or a bank.

It's been said police earn around $200,000 and I just wanted to see if that was a patrol officer's salary or average earned from the department ( with benefits compiled in it) without outside income.
That was what I was trying to find out and won't argue about being a police officer is a good career and will add : deserves to be paid a good salary and benefits

I have said what I wanted to say and wasn't trying to argue, just trying to show what I found in a limited search that amounted to one person looked at and not wanting to go through the trouble of keep on looking until I found a police officer in a non supervisory position..by using the pension link for name and then searching outside that link for information about position held.
 
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Geo could play professionally. But seems like his private instructional camps in Woodbridge are taking off . Maybe become a gym teacher/coach in Woodbridge and make 100k after 7 or 8 years .
Get that pension and benefits on the books and do the private stuff and camps for 30k plus off the books ! Not a bad gig.
Gym teacher? AYFKM??
 

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I apologize. I tried to bow out of this thread a couple of times but kept getting replied to. Not necessarily by you. But rereading the thread it came across argumentative.
disagreeing with another can look argumentative, but I didn't look on your messages that way.
Just seen your posts as someone respectably putting their point across .
If you, or anyone else, looked upon my replies as argumentative, my apologies they weren't meant to be like that.
Sometimes I can seem a little pushy , but that wasn't my intention when posting my thoughts. about this issue
 

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disagreeing with another can look argumentative, but I didn't look on your messages that way.
Just seen your posts as someone respectably putting their point across .
If you, or anyone else, looked upon my replies as argumentative, my apologies they weren't meant to be like that.
Sometimes I can seem a little pushy , but that wasn't my intention when posting my thoughts. about this issue
Nope all good.
 

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I apologize. I tried to bow out of this thread a couple of times but kept getting replied to. Not necessarily by you. But rereading the thread it came across argumentative.
No worries at all. We’re all adults here. Let’s continue with the OP lol.
 
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Just now seeing this thread lol i don’t plan on being a cop or gym teacher personally!

right now I’ve got my hand in a little of everything so we’ll see where it goes. I’ll be doing media, potentially some radio, and then the basketball training and talking appearances have been very steady and i enjoy those.

i also still am very committed to knight society and may be exploring some other start up opportunities. So yeah a lot of different stuff going on for me lol
 

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Didn't remember that line but I thought it was too our there to be real.
A snippet from the credits of The Holy Grail:


A Møøse once bit my sister... No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink"...

We apologise for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible have been sacked.

Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretti nasti...

We apologise again for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.​