This. We need perimeter players who can create off the dribble. I like Hammond fit better bc of it.
Ethan Wright to Colorado
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Jones was a big 4 star recruit. It obviously didn't work out but that doesn't mean you can retroactively go back and re-write history. He was on the national stage in like 6th grade
The NIL money is going to be better at K State and Gtown for Hammond…wait for it
Maybe coaches knew he wasnt really a 4 star recruit. Maybe there was a reason he didnt end up at other schools.
Why are you trying so hard to pretend Jones wasn't a good recruit?
He has all the physical tools. It's easy to see why he was. He was proving it at camps against other D1 prospects where his team won the championship and he was MVP
He was a big 4 star recruit. It's not debatable. You don't even follow recruiting so why are you even trying to argue this? Lol you're so wrong just stop
As impossible as it may be, striking a new low with a Hitler reference. Providing new definition to the term “obtuse.”
Don’t think that’s fair to say. Not every big time kid works out for any team really.
I probably would have said it a little differently but the need for posters to be"right" does seem to cloud their ability to have an objective discussion about the strengths and weaknesses of any player, coach or program. Keep recycling the same tired points in support of their view. Yes in some respects a microcosm of our society today at large.
Need quality players badly if we want to be a top half of the league team again next year.
That’s correct.
To consider people not fans because the retool-reload portal hasn’t produced yet is ridiculous
In recruiting we all know what schools show an interest, what schools are visited and where official visits occur. That only scratches the surface.
You don’t know what schools the player really is interested in. You don’t know the content of all the conversations that occur. You don’t know about what schools a player reached out to and got back a tepid response. Maybe coach said you can visit if you want.
I don’t follow basketball recruiting, but I know firsthand how college recruiting works. I have seen the red carpet laid out on official visits that end with an offer and an official visit that ended with we will stay in touch,
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The argument I was making is that words matter. “Hasn’t closed on anyone” is factually untrue.
The argument I was making is that words matter. “Hasn’t closed on anyone” is factually untrue.
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Assuming you mean my original post. Anyone and target are not synonyms to me, which if they are for you, then we have a difference of opinion. I’m not suggesting we haven’t had a commit in 2 years that’d just be silly to say.
This idea of “closing” on a player misses the mark, imo. Either a baller wants to play for Pike or he doesn’t. I prefer the guys that do.
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Assuming you mean my original post. Anyone and target are not synonyms to me, which if they are for you, then we have a difference of opinion. I’m not suggesting we haven’t had a commit in 2 years that’d just be silly to say.
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i guess I am arguing against semantics but there’s so much crazy on this board right now it would be nice to tamp it down a little.
They aren't. They are miserable know-it-alls manufacturing chest-thumping expertise in their own minds to make up for all of the real things they lack in their personal lives.
This makes no sense.
Are you saying the coaching staff shouldn't be recruiting players? Only sign players that just natually want to come here on their own?
So then what exactly are the coaches doing during recruiting? What are they getting paid to do?
The whole point of hiring and paying assistant coaches who are "ace recruiters" so that they talk players into coming here who wouldn't naturally pick Rutgers.
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He started 15 of their 24 games including both ncaa tournament games. Literally takes 2 seconds to look this stuff up buddy.
Wright would’ve been great for us. Exactly the type of player I’d like to see us bring in - experienced, long, can shoot, doesn’t dominate the ball with the dribble. People can spin it anyway they want but this one hurts. And it should hurt; it’s ok to care.
Others have a different view and that’s fine too. I’m not looking to change minds here but when people are disappointed and frustrated it simply makes them disappointed and frustrated as opposed to “bad fans.”
Others have a different view and that’s fine too. I’m not looking to change minds here but when people are disappointed and frustrated it simply makes them disappointed and frustrated as opposed to “bad fans.”
There isn’t one person on his board who isn’t disappointed we didn’t land Wright. Not sure what your argument is.
Overall, pike has been solid with recruiting. It’s fair to criticize the recent pickups based on program trajectory though. Seems like we should be doing better than Miller, wolfork, and Hyatt at this point. Just my slight criticism, pikes still the man in my book.
It is absolutely fair to say that Pike has missed on a lot of recruits. Something is not working. It is a pattern. To deny this is ridiculous.
Rutgers needs to replace the scoring of Harper and Baker which is 28 points and potentially another 8 points from McConnell.The point being multiple scorers must be recruited for next season.Its not solely a Wright or Hammond decision.
I started following RU hoops for the 83-84 season. Until Pike was hired, I saw exactly two NCAA Tournament games and they were both losses. Since Pike was hired, I've seen 3 NCAA tournament games (including a win) and it would have been more if not for Covid.
In football, recruiting is critical to success. In basketball, mediocre recruiting can be compensated by great coaching. We have a great coach and he's not going anywhere. So isn't this debate pointless?
In football, recruiting is critical to success. In basketball, mediocre recruiting can be compensated by great coaching. We have a great coach and he's not going anywhere. So isn't this debate pointless?
Huh? Never said we shouldn’t be recruiting. The final decision rests with the player, does it not? I prefer guys who want to play for a coach like Pike versus any other coach that may be recruiting them.
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Hammond looks like he can help us - I think a big issue with pikes strategy is he’s the kind of guy that could’ve helped us a lot more last season but Pike chose not to add a guard that could improve the team.
Would be nice to land this kid though looks like we have a good shot
Would be nice to land this kid though looks like we have a good shot
I see a pattern of three consecutive ncaa tourney quality teams. What he’s doing, I’m liking.
Last season Jones was expected to play that type of role, especially after reports in summer and scrimmages of him scoring well
This is just a failure in your expectations and not understanding recruiting.
Every coach but 1 fails recruiting every single player.
Part of Pikiell's job is to sell guys on Rutgers and make them want to come here and pay for him.
Another straw man. I don't think anyone thinks Pike is an ace recruiter