Can/will Wright play the PG at Rutgers?

[cm_13]

Geo doing his part

 

[RUsojo]

Feels like Geo is gonna be on staff very soon

 

[RUBlackout]

Wright would be a perfect fit as someone mentioned earlier in almost the triangle of PM, CO, EW in an inside/out game. Wright would have many opportunities to score on the wing and it would prevent some double teams on CO

I personally believe we have not seen PMs best basketball yet either and saw a glimpse of it last year.

 

[MCKnight]

would gladly take him, but still need a guard with speed that can shoot and create Own shot, to play starter level minutes. Team lacks speed….

 

[RUBlackout]

would gladly take him, but still need a guard with speed that can shoot and create Own shot, to play starter level minutes. Team lacks speed….

I think we will get that from Derek Simpson. I know we can’t expect a lot from a freshman but we see one thing teams out there getting quality minutes from their frost so why not us.

he will be speaking on Geos discord tomorrow night so I suggest we listen in to what he has to say

 

[LOU-RU85]

He is a very good fit for our team. He has a pretty good step back shot - Geo like. He would my top pick along with the kid from Clemson.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Richie has said Wright is a PG target for Rutgers. I see him as a spot up catch and shoot 3 point sniper and floor spacer.

I don't see Wright as a primary ball handler who can break down the defense, penetrate and dish or score. Not sure he has the handle or athleticism for that type of role in the B1G.

Defensively, I would question his lateral movement and footspeed to guard a B1G PG

My thought would be Paul plays point forward and Wright still spaces the floor. If Wright is on the floor with Miller or Simpson, I would have either of them as point over Wright.

Essentially, you don't want Wright on the ball creating. You want him off ball spacing the floor is my point

Don't count on him coming here. We can't close. Not me being negative just being factual. Have heard from two separate people now that looks like we're on the outside looking in here.

 

[Colbert17!]

That's a crazy stat... 18 rebounds at only 6'4

If he comes here, he needs to share his secret with Cliff

He must have great anticipation and feel for where the rebound is headed along with a desire to grab boards

True.
Rebounding is almost always about positioning versus size and leaping ability.

 

[RUJMM78]

Don't count on him coming here. We can't close. Not me being negative just being factual. Have heard from two separate people now that looks like we're on the outside looking in here.

Rutgers isn't considered a elite school that that can cherry pick the best recruits .They must outwork other teams like Vitale did in getting Sellers to come to Rutgers.Player development and recruiting power conference talent must have equal weight. Pikiell has done a terrific job in building a winning program and now must utilize the transfer portal to sustain success.

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

I like the idea of a player that uses the rim the way that Ethan Wright does on this team next season, I can see the potential in PG play the way he drives, and we have enough PG coaches that can teach him the position.
Wright Close 2 89-138 64.5% Mid 6-18 33.3% 2pt 95-156 61% 3pt 66-170 38.8%
Cliff Close 2 131-177 74%

As a comparison,
Llewellyn Cl2 80-152 52.6% Mid 21-54 38.9% 2pt 101-206 49% 3pt 62-162 38.3%

Wright makes us a better rebounding team from the Guard/Wing spot, too.

Land Wright and Warren Washington 10.5pts, 6.6reb, Close2 70-98, mid 20-50 40% FTs 73%, would be homerun offseason.

 

[Briccnerff]

I like the idea of a player that uses the rim the way that Ethan Wright does on this team next season, I can see the potential in PG play the way he drives, and we have enough PG coaches that can teach him the position.
Wright Close 2 89-138 64.5% Mid 6-18 33.3% 2pt 95-156 61% 3pt 66-170 38.8%
Cliff Close 2 131-177 74%

As a comparison,
Llewellyn Cl2 80-152 52.6% Mid 21-54 38.9% 2pt 101-206 49% 3pt 62-162 38.3%

Wright makes us a better rebounding team from the Guard/Wing spot, too.

Land Wright and Warren Washington 10.5pts, 6.6reb, Close2 70-98, mid 20-50 40% FTs 73%, would be homerun offseason.

I like this also. Anyone hear anything on WAshington?

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Rutgers isn't considered a elite school that that can cherry pick the best recruits .They must outwork other teams like Vitale did in getting Sellers to come to Rutgers.Player development and recruiting power conference talent must have equal weight. Pikiell has done a terrific job in building a winning program and now must utilize the transfer portal to sustain success.

I mean the teams we're consistently losing recruits to aren't exactly world beaters. In the past 12 months. Pauly Paulicap to WVU, Ethan Wright to some lower tier school, who'd we beat out for derek simpson and the class of 2022 kids? Derek simpson's next best option was what? bowling green? The center wasn't even on the d1 radar haha, he was a football player who basically has said "lemme see that thing" when he walks in the gym.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

There are over 1200 kids in the transfer portal, RU will get what they need, irregardless if whatever Wright decides to do. He is not a can't miss player, by any stretch of imagination. He's a solid all around guard that will require others to set him up to score at the other positions.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

There are over 1200 kids in the transfer portal, RU will get what they need, irregardless if whatever Wright decides to do. He is not a can't miss player, by any stretch of imagination. He's a solid all around guard that will require others to set him up to score at the other positions.

Your arms sure must get tired from carrying all this water. You lined up similar posts when you thought there was a chance knight may leave LOL.

Just copy and paste the above post and substitute wright's name for other kids we miss on. Ultimately we'll settle with some kids. And yes, when we land Bryan Antoine some are gonna pretend that is some recruiting win when reality is kid has been a failure at the division 1 level and averaged a whooping 1.5 points this year

 

[RUBOB72]

Let’s all be honest on Wright . The kid has a great stroke and he’s not exactly an un athletic kid . Is he quick enough, does he handle well enough, does he fit into Piekells scheme of things? Is he smart enough to handle the academics here?

 

[kcg88]

There are over 1200 kids in the transfer portal, RU will get what they need, irregardless if whatever Wright decides to do. He is not a can't miss player, by any stretch of imagination. He's a solid all around guard that will require others to set him up to score at the other positions.

"RU will get what they need"

There's no way you can definitively say that. Hyatt and Agee were what we got last season, that's not what we needed. Yes, there are plenty more minutes open this offseason but you have to fill those with the right players. The women's team had a ton of minutes open last season and they added a bunch of empty calorie high volume players who could put up counting stats but couldn't contribute to a winning basketball team.

I agree that not getting Ethan Wright doesn't kill our offseason but at some point you've got to get someone or else you're going to be picking from the guard equivalents of Ralph Agee types. A bird in the hand is certainly worth something which is why even though I wasn't thrilled with Sessoms or Quinn it would've been fine to take them because what's the backup plan?

I'm not worried about getting someone to take shots. These guys are hoopers, everyone will shoot. Palmquist will take 15 shots a game if he has to. I'm worried about getting quality players.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

There probably is a bucket (2 guard) with a bunch of Ethan Wright types. There probably isn’t a 100% can’t miss player in the bucket. There are probably 50+ players in that bucket.

 

[kcg88]

There probably is a bucket (2 guard) with a bunch of Ethan Wright types. There probably isn’t a 100% can’t miss player in the bucket. There are probably 50+ players in that bucket.

The question is, should Rutgers miss on Wright, are they in a spot to get an equally good player given that they've now sunk resources (time) into Wright while other schools have been recruiting the other players in the bucket.

This is where I don't like Pikiell's approach at least as I understand it. From an outsider's POV his approach seems to be "we're recruiting only YOU. All these other schools are recruiting a dozen other guys at your position, we only want YOU." I'm not sure that seems to be working, quite honestly. I think the better approach is, in fact, to recruit a bunch of different players and if you strike out on one or two you've still got relationships already started with the others. And, not in a nefarious way, there would be an element of "look, we'd really like your commitment and we'll take you if you commit today, but we're also looking at some other guys and new players are entering the portal every day..." Everything the staff does comes down to putting pressure on a kid to commit, that would just be another angle.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

Ultimately we'll settle with some kids. And yes, when we land Bryan Antoine some are gonna pretend that is some recruiting win when reality is kid has been a failure at the division 1 level and averaged a whooping 1.5 points this year

Would you consider Antoine a good get if, say, six other power 5 schools offer him a scholly?

BTW, Antoine hasn't even submitted his name in the portal.

 

[tjb_rivals53842]

There probably is a bucket (2 guard) with a bunch of Ethan Wright types. There probably isn’t a 100% can’t miss player in the bucket. There are probably 50+ players in that bucket.

To your point, at evanmiya.com there are 36 four-star (by his ranking system) pure 2 guards, Wright among them.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

To your point, at evanmiya.com there are 36 four-star (by his ranking system) pure 2 guards, Wright among them.

I just guessed...wow

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Would you consider Antoine a good get if, say, six other power 5 schools offer him a scholly?

BTW, Antoine hasn't even submitted his name in the portal.

Have you watched Antoine play? Would I take him? Yes. Do I expect much out of him? Absolutely not. The kid has looked like a lost puppy on the court at nova.

He will get other offers as well because every coach thinks they're the man who can tap into this 5* talent and make him a 5* talent again. The risk of using one scholly on the kid is worth the reward of there even being a chance that something clicks. Worst case scenario is he plays 10 minutes a night and is buried on your bench. So to answer your original question, people have been whispering since January that he was coming to Rutgers. Much like all kids who do eventually enter the portal, they already know where they're going before they enter. People on here can tell you that I told them Eugene was headed to Oregon much like JY.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

The question is, should Rutgers miss on Wright, are they in a spot to get an equally good player given that they've now sunk resources (time) into Wright while other schools have been recruiting the other players in the bucket.

This is where I don't like Pikiell's approach at least as I understand it. From an outsider's POV his approach seems to be "we're recruiting only YOU. All these other schools are recruiting a dozen other guys at your position, we only want YOU." I'm not sure that seems to be working, quite honestly. I think the better approach is, in fact, to recruit a bunch of different players and if you strike out on one or two you've still got relationships already started with the others. And, not in a nefarious way, there would be an element of "look, we'd really like your commitment and we'll take you if you commit today, but we're also looking at some other guys and new players are entering the portal every day..." Everything the staff does comes down to putting pressure on a kid to commit, that would just be another angle.

Pike doesn't yell at refs......some people dont like that
Pike doesn't publicly yell at players.....some people don't like that
Pike is up front with recruits and respectful (based on what you say)....some people don't like that

Part of the secret sauce is the things above.

 

[kcg88]

Pike doesn't yell at refs......some people dont like that
Pike doesn't publicly yell at players.....some people don't like that
Pike is up front with recruits and respectful (based on what you say)....some people don't like that

Part of the secret sauce is the things above.

Yep that's why my stance is "I don't agree but he's earned the right to do his way."

 

[needmorecowbell]

Yep that's why my stance is "I don't agree but he's earned the right to do his way."

I don’t get this thinking. You think the guy who has pulled RU up out of the grave and built a winning program hasn’t earned the right to do it his way?
Edit- I can’t read

 

[kcg88]

I don’t get this thinking. You think the guy who has pulled RU up out of the grave and built a winning program hasn’t earned the right to do it his way?

That is literally the opposite of what I typed.

 

[RUblackshirt2006]

Hoping its Orville who can then help recruit his brother.

I hear they can dunk, but it takes a few months in between attempts.

 

[4theknights]

Losing our three core guys, this will be a tough off season for Pike to create a roster of talent and chemistry. I know we will need portal infusion, however, should be interesting which one of our current bench guys who are ready (or not) to make the leap for major minutes. Keep thinking Mag and Reiber have a chance with some continued development to surprise next season.

 

[needmorecowbell]

That is literally the opposite of what I typed.

Ha! I totally miss read that.

 

[Nycrusupporter]

The question is, should Rutgers miss on Wright, are they in a spot to get an equally good player given that they've now sunk resources (time) into Wright while other schools have been recruiting the other players in the bucket.

This is where I don't like Pikiell's approach at least as I understand it. From an outsider's POV his approach seems to be "we're recruiting only YOU. All these other schools are recruiting a dozen other guys at your position, we only want YOU." I'm not sure that seems to be working, quite honestly. I think the better approach is, in fact, to recruit a bunch of different players and if you strike out on one or two you've still got relationships already started with the others. And, not in a nefarious way, there would be an element of "look, we'd really like your commitment and we'll take you if you commit today, but we're also looking at some other guys and new players are entering the portal every day..." Everything the staff does comes down to putting pressure on a kid to commit, that would just be another angle.

Every school prioritizes who they are going after. And you will have 20 players a day entering the portal over the next several months, so we will have lots of opportunities to pick quality players. Posters here are acting like there is some static pool.

 

[shields]

Bowling Green? Of course KYK forgets that Arizona State offered Derek, does not fit his agenda though.

 

[Scangg]

Have you watched Antoine play? Would I take him? Yes. Do I expect much out of him? Absolutely not. The kid has looked like a lost puppy on the court at nova.

He will get other offers as well because every coach thinks they're the man who can tap into this 5* talent and make him a 5* talent again. The risk of using one scholly on the kid is worth the reward of there even being a chance that something clicks. Worst case scenario is he plays 10 minutes a night and is buried on your bench. So to answer your original question, people have been whispering since January that he was coming to Rutgers. Much like all kids who do eventually enter the portal, they already know where they're going before they enter. People on here can tell you that I told them Eugene was headed to Oregon much like JY.

Do you know if the interest is mutual or just that Antoine wants to come to RU?

With multiple open scholarships, I don't mind if Pike takes a shot on a high ceiling player like Antoine who was a highly rated recruit that didn't pan out at first stop. If Pike still sees something in him and thinks he is a good fit with the team, then I'm in.

If it's a confidence issue, Pike's relentless positivity could be just what he needs.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I mean the teams we're consistently losing recruits to aren't exactly world beaters. In the past 12 months. Pauly Paulicap to WVU, Ethan Wright to some lower tier school, who'd we beat out for derek simpson and the class of 2022 kids? Derek simpson's next best option was what? bowling green? The center wasn't even on the d1 radar haha, he was a football player who basically has said "lemme see that thing" when he walks in the gym.

It only matters if the recruits you lose out on end up producing and the guys you end up getting are busts. Paulicap did nothing at WVU. You can say Wright choosing Princeton over RU in 2018-19 was a recruiting loss but that’d be a big joke. Look at the other recruits we brought in that year and try to tell me Wright would’ve been a better choice at guard back then? You can’t. It doesn’t matter what Caleb’s offer list was - he ended up translating into the best defensive player in the BIG. Tez was a top recruit. We already had Geo.

It doesn’t matter who recruited Simpson if he ends up being successful at Rutgers.

 

[Nycrusupporter]

It only matters if the recruits you lose out on end up producing and the guys you end up getting are busts. Paulicap did nothing at WVU. You can say Wright choosing Princeton over RU in 2018-19 was a recruiting loss but that’d be a big joke. Look at the other recruits we brought in that year and try to tell me Wright would’ve been a better choice at guard back then? You can’t. It doesn’t matter what Caleb’s offer list was - he ended up translating into the best defensive player in the BIG. Tez was a top recruit. We already had Geo.

It doesn’t matter who recruited Simpson if he ends up being successful at Rutgers.

And losing out on a player to Bob Huggins, one of the most elite coaches in college basketball, is nothing to be embarrassed about.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Bowling Green? Of course KYK forgets that Arizona State offered Derek, does not fit his agenda though.

My B. He had one other major offer. My apologies.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

It only matters if the recruits you lose out on end up producing and the guys you end up getting are busts. Paulicap did nothing at WVU. You can say Wright choosing Princeton over RU in 2018-19 was a recruiting loss but that’d be a big joke. Look at the other recruits we brought in that year and try to tell me Wright would’ve been a better choice at guard back then? You can’t. It doesn’t matter what Caleb’s offer list was - he ended up translating into the best defensive player in the BIG. Tez was a top recruit. We already had Geo.

It doesn’t matter who recruited Simpson if he ends up being successful at Rutgers.

I agree. However, I hope you'd also agree that at a certain point the law of large numbers comes into effect here. More often than not recruits with more offers and more suitors happen to naturally be more talented. Right?

 

[shields]

Again you want to kill Pikiell. Agree with Paulie, it was to play for Huggins.

 

[bitnez]

IMO, we have the perfect roster to remake this team. We have a big who can play pick and roll and doesn’t necessarily like to play with his back to the basket, and a big guard who can run Pnr or post smaller guards. I still think Caleb comes back but even if he doesn’t get us 2 guys who can shoot and space the floor. I don’t know how we’ll be defensively but they are pieces to changing what we have been offensively

 

[RUBOB72]

Let’s all be honest on Wright . The kid has a great stroke and he’s not exactly an un athletic kid . Is he quick enough, does he handle well enough, does he fit into Piekells scheme of things? Is he smart enough to handle the academics here?

Well … is he smart enough ?

 

[Nycrusupporter]

Well … is he smart enough ?

He is graduating, so he can come here and take basketweaving if he wants to . . .