Personally and I will include myself . Those making comments in their own home or yelling at the screen is pretty normal however thinking you are the color commentator/ broadcaster is actually a bit over the top. We have become so obsessed with texting we lose sight of the fact most fans just want to WATCH the freaking game. Drink a beer, sip some wine even smoke some favorite herbs. Wait until the game is over. If we had gone by the first half texts of what people were seeing the entire Rutgers fan base would have switched to watching Guys DDD.
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Trust me in my book and many others it crossed the line. Again does the person have a right to say it? Yup. Will I continue to say that is insensitive, unnecessary and crossed the line. You betcha. Plenty of other ways to say Paul was off his game in the first half or Geo was missing easy shots.
I don’t really ever read the game threads because half the time I’m at the game watching or I’m watching on TV. The exception would be if I am at the game and there is a no call or bad call that I don’t get a look at from a replay I like to see what it looked like on TV from posters perspectives. Some of the things said on those posts are out of line, and if you feel you have the right to criticize those players for poor play than other posters have the right to criticize your poor posts. Take the criticism like you give it. And Mbash has said he thinks what he said is wrong and I can respect him or her for that.
when someone lost a friend and/or loved one, it's hard to appreciate a joke about what caused that death..
Some can handle the joke, some relive the memory hearing a joke about it.
What I'm trying to tell you is I think it's a line that's pretty unique to you. Not that literally no one else has that line, just it's not a common one. I don't think it's reasonable to say a post like that on a message board crosses the line. It's one thing if we are talking in person and you tell me "hey I don't like jokes about people being drunk". I think people should respect that. But in a mass medium like this we need to have more standard "lines" because if we respected everyone's personal lines then we would basically be stuck posting basketball facts only.
That's fine. But that doesn't mean every joke about something that could theoretically kill someone crosses "the line".
So let me get this straight. All of this, 4 pages now is basically because one poster (who may have apologized) made a very inappropriate comment. One.
Not really seeing anybody defend the use of that comment.
So now its really about control of the Negatoids by the Positoids? Come on folks. This has been going on FOR YEARS in those game threads. If you can't stand them stay out of them. Some of the stuff and behavior is comical and I've been guilty enough at times for over-reaction. But this is what you get from all these years of being a die-hard Rutgers fan.
Post Traumatic Sports Disorder. (now go ahead. Somebody tell me I am belittling that very serious real condition).
Not really seeing anybody defend the use of that comment.
So now its really about control of the Negatoids by the Positoids? Come on folks. This has been going on FOR YEARS in those game threads. If you can't stand them stay out of them. Some of the stuff and behavior is comical and I've been guilty enough at times for over-reaction. But this is what you get from all these years of being a die-hard Rutgers fan.
Post Traumatic Sports Disorder. (now go ahead. Somebody tell me I am belittling that very serious real condition).
What is it? First you say unique to me. Then you say others have that line. Numerous posters I am sure have had their lives changed by alcoholism or drunk driving. There were so many other ways of making a point without it being a sloppy, insensitive drunk joke. Again numerous comedians can make a living work “clean” and get just as many laughs.
To the poster who made the comment I do appreciate the apology.
Personally and for the good of the team I have to “quit watching” or give up on the game, because invariably every time I step away we make a roaring come back and play great defense….lol.
I’m on a texting chain with great, loyal fans and when we’re playing poorly I’m ordered to go take out the trash and leave the game so we can make a come back.
Yesterday at half time I took the trash out, when I returned we were up by 1.
PM promptly turned the ball over for the 6th time (I didn’t witness his great play up until that point) and we went 4 minutes without a bucket before a Harper 3 pointer.
Oye Va….. I stayed with it though and gleefully watched us maintain and increase our lead to victory.
Fear not though, I have a great home record of in person viewing from right behind the bench, but so does everyone else because we’re good at home
1. I was perfectly fine with the joke and didn’t care less. So it’s not done universal line.
Does your personal “line” outweigh mine?
What is a line/topic you are okay with? Maybe I’m not
2. Numerous comedians can make a living working “dirty” and get just as many laughs.
3. Take personal responsibility for your feeding and reactions. Nobody can offend you unless you allow it.
Be careful what you wish for Zap. You may find some extra garbage bags by your home before the Iowa game
:CHOP:I did something similar. Was going to wait to pick a late lunch up for the family after the game but being down 11 at the half went early. Of course standing in line was on my phone seeing the comeback.
I have to wait at least 5 minutes between score checks on my phone or I’m not officially leaving the game.Be careful what you wish for Zap. You may find some extra garbage bags by your home before the Iowa game
I did something similar. Was going to wait to pick a late lunch up for the family after the game but being down 11 at the half went early. Of course standing in line was on my phone seeing the comeback.
I’ll be behind the bench for Iowa.
Sorry for your personal loss, but YOU sir, are being WAY to sensitive about that comment (IMO). IF he had said Geo is drunk driving to the lane that would be a different story. But just to say somebody is playing like they are under the influence of alcohol is offensive to the general public is ridiculous.
And btw. My wife is a MSW who worked in a Special Needs High School (kids who also have drug issues in the family, etc) just told me her opinion is that if he's playing sloppy and unfocused she could understand the comment.
Once again we’ve got 5 pages about 99% of our fans reacting to what they see in an emotional, reactive manor….WTF are we doing out there very common.
Can we run a friggen offense and stop with rotations that have 3 non offensive players on floor at one time is not very offensive in the heat of the moment.
1 percent over the top imo doesn’t warrant such outrage.. go look at the game threads of any team we play and beat ….they’re exactly the same.
Nebraska board wants to drop mens basketball…lol
Can we run a friggen offense and stop with rotations that have 3 non offensive players on floor at one time is not very offensive in the heat of the moment.
1 percent over the top imo doesn’t warrant such outrage.. go look at the game threads of any team we play and beat ….they’re exactly the same.
Nebraska board wants to drop mens basketball…lol
1.Where did I say your personal line outweighed mine? I was very clear as to why the “joke” was offensive to me as well as others. Never said he could not say it. Just that I will continue to call out what I feel is offensive.
2. Poster was sloppy using a drunk line not necessary when many other ways of making the point.
I don't mean literally unique to you as in you are literally the only person who wouldn't like a joke like that. Come on man. Jokes about people being drunk are not considered "insensitive" by the general population, a "clean" comedian is probably not necessarily avoiding mentioning people being drunk. People drink, people get drunk, it's not a taboo topic in any normal universe.
Aside from the shoes, all of those are valid things to complain about in some shape or form.
I will drop it. We are seeing things very differently which is the beauty of this board. People can say what they want and others can disagree.
So?
There are also fans who have their whole day ruined because Rutgers lost.
Some say they ruminate over losses for days!
I find that insane.
But I don’t make it my mission to call them out and tell them to grow up.
I just take satisfaction in myself that I have more important things in life.
(While also being jealous that my biggest issue in life isn’t Rutgers athletics. Man that life would be nice.)
Pretty much agree, but it’s astounding how much better of a mood I’m in when we win.
It allows me to watch BTN and other games, makes my food taste better and looking forward to the next game because it’s “meaningful” is very rewarding to me.
I still put my RU gear on at home to watch road games, I prance around the house with pride after victories
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Goal? Accomplish? I would imagine my goal and what I’m trying to accomplish are exactly the same as yours with your post above. Can’t be sure though. So what was your goal and what are you trying to accomplish?
I don’t see this as a question of morals or moral superiority. It’s a question of who can, and who cannot, manage their disappointment like an adult. Some clearly cannot and wind up behaving like spoiled toddlers who were just told it’s bedtime, throwing the message board equivalent of a hissy fit.
Some prefer to hurl childish insults at our players and coaches, often justifying that by saying the team deserves it, so it’s okay to do. I prefer to point out the unarguable childishness of that sort of behavior and I too can justify it by saying they deserve it.
Each to their own.
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I’d bet you all my worldly possessions if you and I watched an important USA World Cup soccer qualifier and you were aghast at the product and results you were watching in the moment, you’d be whining and hissing like a spoiled toddler.
Can’t use the amateur excuse anymore, arguably many college kids will be taking pay cuts when they turn pro
Doubt it.
My goal in responding to you was 100% wasting time.
It’s either respond to you or scroll through IG reels.
At least here I have to use my brain to check for proper grammar.
I have no delusions of changing minds on a message board.
I also don’t care about changing anyones actions on a message board - it has zero effect on my life or enjoyment of Rutgers enjoyment.
Exactly to each their own - so why so (seemingly) upset over others acting like toddlers?
I’m sending a truck to fetch all your worldly possessions.
I do some pretty childish things at times, no doubt. Just not so much with sports, unless it’s me playing. I will analyze the games I watch, especially soccer with which I have a bunch of training and experience both as a player and coach. And so I’ll have constructive criticism about a player or team performance. But I do that win or lose. Good game or bad. There is always stuff to improve upon, in every game.
I rarely, if ever, say or even think stuff like “so and so sucks“, or otherwise insult any team members for which I’m rooting, usually not even about players on opposing teams unless they do something really crappy, like throw an elbow at one of our guys.
I will sometimes toss out a childish remark or two about refs or officials.
Maybe it‘s from years of coaching, but my demeanor while viewing sporting contests is almost always calm and analytical, and I keep my emotions in check. I never got a red, or even yellow, card while coaching. If I wanted to get on a ref, I’d get an assistant to draw the card. Because winning is easier with the head coach than without.
As a player, I’m more emotional and have drawn some red cards at times, even as an adult.
Fortunately for me, I don’t have any worldly possessions…lol. Send a VW Beetle.I’m sending a truck to fetch all your worldly possessions.
I do some pretty childish things at times, no doubt. Just not so much with sports, unless it’s me playing. I will analyze the games I watch, especially soccer with which I have a bunch of training and experience both as a player and coach. And so I’ll have constructive criticism about a player or team performance. But I do that win or lose. Good game or bad. There is always stuff to improve upon, in every game.
I rarely, if ever, say or even think stuff like “so and so sucks“, or otherwise insult any team members for which I’m rooting, usually not even about players on opposing teams unless they do something really crappy, like throw an elbow at one of our guys.
I will sometimes toss out a childish remark or two about refs or officials.
Maybe it‘s from years of coaching, but my demeanor while viewing sporting contests is almost always calm and analytical, and I keep my emotions in check. I never got a red, or even yellow, card while coaching. If I wanted to get on a ref, I’d get an assistant to draw the card. Because winning is easier with the head coach than without.
As a player, I’m more emotional and have drawn some red cards at times, even as an adult.
Remind me never to watch a game with you…BOORINGGGG.
I need game watchers that match my intensity and massive second guessing, coupled with a collection of pillows I throw at the TV.
In person I have a completely different set of standards and rules I strictly adhere to.
Absolutely no booing of players is rule number one.
So your one of those on the field participant cry babies, nothing worse than them
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I’m not upset. I don’t get upset over forum posts. Forums are for posting opinions. I’m posting mine.
And all sports forum posts can be said to be wasting time. It’s entertainment. But in a forum like these RU ones, with people posting together for years, we become a bit of an online community. So these debates, and discussions are a bit more meaningful, to me at least, than posting comments on random social media posts or NJ.COM articles.
Perhaps nobody will look in the mirror and adjust their behavior or opinion about how to conduct themselves in game threads. That’s fine. It’s not a goal for me.
OTOH, I have been swayed on a variety of topics over the years, by well-informed people who post intelligently and who are persuasive writers. And sometimes by some who aren’t so intelligent or persuasive, but still mange to make some good points.
And I seriously doubt I am the most open-minded person here. So who knows what can happen.
I am NOT a crybaby on the field!Remind me never to watch a game with you…BOORINGGGG.
I need game watchers that match my intensity and massive second guessing, coupled with a collection of pillows I throw at the TV.
In person I have a completely different set of standards and rules I strictly adhere to.
Absolutely no booing of players is rule number one.
So your one of those on the field participant cry babies, nothing worse than them
The comments in the first half of this thread really sucked bats balls. But y'all picked it up in the second half, so I rescind my comment. Great game. I'll have another, please.
Why check out a thread if you know beforehand you're not going to like it, then post about not liking what you saw. Were you expecting something different this one time out of the past 30 yrs.? I know I don't like women's basketball as I don't find it entertaining, I don't go over to the women's basketball board expecting to be entertained, so I don't.
I skipped a couple pages ahead, and I'm gonna derail the thread slightly. Those who keep saying, "If you know what's in the thread and you don't like it, just don't click it" are right. However, for me it's more than a game thread. I can't stand the negativity of our fanbase. I sit at football games week after week and have to hear the fans around me being absolutely miserable. The people in my section probably question our fandom when we leave early. The truth is, more often than not, it's because we can't deal with all the morons around us who hate everyone and everything. It's college sports. It shouldn't be enough to significantly alter your mood. And if it doesn't, and you're naturally a miserable prick, that's even worse. Oh, and by the way, you 100% don't know the sport, the personnel, or the gameplan better than our coaches.
Everyone is miserable but you I guess.
I was enormously miserable at all our B1G Ten home games this year…
I’m admittedly not a tail-gate-camaraderie guy….I go to watch us compete
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emember the football and MBB programs were down so long that the chicken little syndrome seems to be inbred with most of the long term fans and that pessimistic outlook seems to be contagious because even the new fans act a little chicken little at times.
It certainly feels that way at times. And when it does, it makes the games impossible to enjoy.
Eh soccer. They play " friendlies" right.I am NOT a crybaby on the field!
Well at least you don't flop on this forum.
That's a double-edged sword in my opinion. On the football board, for instance, some guy who's posted like 100,000 times tried to shout me down because I'm "new" and also accused me of being a previous poster. The board would be better without post counts or join dates being displayed because it leads to some (not all) longtime posters acting and thinking like their opinions somehow matter more than others.
I like the post counts and join dates but the join dates are capped and don't really go all the way back as I think I'm chopped by 10+ years.
But nobody should ever judge the content on those factors and leave it up to us to fix that attitude.
This is one of the biggest and best rival sites out there and only survives with new blood.