Way too early "predict the offense 2-deep" thread

rucoe89

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Dunlap has never played center in his career. Hard to become a starter at center in the BiG if you’ve never played there. Centers set the protection, command other linemen to shift, identify the point LB and oh yeah snap the ball. It’s 2nd most nuanced position to play on offense. It takes some experience before you step into a starting role.
Krimin and Zalinski did ok at C. If he gets here for spring ball he has time to adjust. I was looking at the "best 5" philosophy of lining them up.
 
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RUBOB72

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Tyler LT … O ‘Neal LG…. Zalinskas C …DiRenzo RG …. Pierce RT.

Nwaowuguwu LT … Dunlap LG …. FELTER C …Rainey. RG…. Sutton RT

Rosso… Paillant… Ciaffoni …..Brown….Allen…. Asomoah…White…Chin…Stinnete …Monegro… DeCroce … In no particular

order yet but damn this group of O line candidates has some serious potential . It is all up to Aurich O line coach, Butler ,

Dodd our strength coaches. Can we sneak Dodd out for few plays at QB ?
 
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Rokodesh

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JD and Tyler are specifically taking this year for NFL prep. Raiqwon and Sutton both All-Big honorable mention (4th best OL in a conference that usually sends all those guys to at least get looks in NFL). Dunlap has the gifts, showed it sophomore season, but overcoming injury will be the big thing. Pierce and Allen def have NFL potential.

At any rate, I think it’s better to hype up a group that we want to gel, especially when attrition can happen. NFL talk does that.

But I also do believe it. Schiano developed a shocking amount of OL nfl players (ie Anthony Davis, Darnell Stapleton, Jeremy Zuttah, Kevin Haslam, RJ Dill, Jonah Jackson, & more) — and that was just from Big East/AAC talent! So can only imagine what he can do with this group. He finally has the size/speed in the OL he’s been hunting for his entire coaching career
Schiano never coached Jonah Jackson
 
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Tyler LT … O ‘Neal LG…. Zalinskas C …DiRenzo RG …. Pierce RT.

Nwaowuguwu LT … Dunlap LG …. FELTER C …Rainey. RG…. Sutton RT

Rosso… Paillant… Ciaffoni …..Brown….Allen…. Asomoah…White…Chin…Stinnete …Monegro… DeCroce … In no particular

order yet but damn this group of O line candidates has some serious potential . It is all up to Aurich O line coach, Butler ,

Dodd our strength coaches. Can we sneak Dodd out for few plays at QB ?
Can we see Tunde Fatukasi next season?
 
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Ash_Hole

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Schiano was there 16-18, Jackson was there 2019.

You’re right about Jackson. It was my error — but presumably Schiano helped recruit him to OSU.

Schiano also had Cameron Stephenson drafted and many OL get free agent deals & looks
 

Scarlet83

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DiRenzo and Tyler as a lock to start.
I expect O’Neal, and Pierce to remain as starters. I think the remaining guys are competing for one spot.

Dunlap will need to compete coming off Achilles and benching in Minny.

Ciaffoni adds depth.
Sutton is a huge ? On whether he can rehab in time.
Rainey, Zakinkas in the mix.
Brown to DL
This is exactly how I think about the OL going into spring ball, aplus. I can’t wait for spring practice and the Scarlet White game.

2022 is going to be AWESOME and FUN!!
 

RUBOB72

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I would be somewhat disappointed if Allen wasn’t playing some minutes by mid year. If he turns up playing like an Anthony Davis type we hit the jackpot. Let the kid lift- learn-compete -adjust to college first anything beyond this will be gravy on the roast.
 
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I would be somewhat disappointed if Allen wasn’t playing some minutes by mid year. If he turns up playing like an Anthony Davis type we hit the jackpot. Let the kid lift- learn-compete -adjust to college first anything beyond this will be gravy on the roast.
He can play some minutes. Up to four full games.
 
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RUBOB72

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any lineup including Sutton at this point is not wise coming off a major injury.
If he’s ready then he is a big asset.If Reggie needs a break in period that’s ok too. Sutton is a competitor at the highest level and will continue his rehab and growth as a B1G lineman. It is however comforting to not only realize we have bodies but potentially good quality athletes in a position we were lacking in.
 

RUBOB72

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If Tunde Fatukasi or several others ” as you put it get scared off” then perhaps they didn’t belong here in the first place ? In this player’s case I hope he is like his brother and fights for playing time. Players will leave as they always have and for many different reasons. It is expected and Rutgers certainly is not impervious to attrition of even very good players. You deal with it and continue the journey.
 

yesrutgers01

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OK, let's see your predictions for the offense's depth chart for 2022

Here's my CHOP at it:

QB- GW, Noah or Johnny Everything
RB- K Monangai, A Young or S Brown

WR- S Jones, I Washington
WR- A Cruikshank, B Sanders
WR- S Ryan, J Youngblood
TE- Konopka, Johnny Everything

LT- Raiqwon O’Neal, Hollin Pierce
LG- Ireland Brown, Kobe Asamoah
C- Gus Zilinskas, Bryan Felter
RG- C Dunlap, Reggie Sutton
RT- Willie Tylers, Di Renzo

WR is super-thin. Hopefully Ryan can stretch the D.
OL is getting some depth through the portal.
In GW we trust!
I can't keep up with half of everything going on with the portal. But I'll just make my comments on your list which is pretty good.

QB- GW, Noah or Johnny Everything - I think Johnny everything sticks to Hback/TE we will see him as QB only on the short down plays. But yes, I feel it is GW's time from game 1.
RB- K Monangai, A Young or S Brown - I actually think this is a really good group. If healthy, KM may prove to be our best RB in a long time.

WR- S Jones, I Washington - We have a lot of 2's and 3's in this room. Need to find that special player at WR because GW will air it out and we need "that guy" - Losing Melton is huge because besides being "that guy" he was a beast in downfield blocking and breaking his route when the QB was in trouble.
WR- A Cruikshank, B Sanders
WR- S Ryan, J Youngblood
TE- Konopka, Johnny Everything - This will most likely be the depth chart but I feel Johnny plays more snaps as he plays himself into an NFL camp next year

LT- Raiqwon O’Neal, Hollin Pierce
LG- Ireland Brown, Kobe Asamoah
C- Gus Zilinskas, Bryan Felter
RG- C Dunlap, Reggie Sutton
RT- Willie Tylers, Di Renzo

The OL - Falls into the same area as the WR group at the moment. We have a lot of players who should/could be good enough to play acceptable in the B1G. We need to start finding at least 2 NFL OL to be starting every year. Are any of these guys NFL type players. If we find even 1 out of this group and the rest are at least average B1G players- we see our offense look completely different. If Greg keeps it up in the next couple of years with HS commits and portal players like this- we have a good chance of becoming an OLU again. Love the direction it is going- not sure if 2022 is enough yet.
 

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And everyone is forgetting about the #1 Recruit in NJ. With all his talent Allen might find a way into the starting OL.
It is extremely rare for any true freshman offensive linemen to come in and start week one, especially in the B1G. Allen will be 18 or 19 next season. All of these other guys are 21 or 22 and have had several years of college game experience and S&C . There is no need to put pressure on Allen or any of the other young bucks now. It won’t be easy with these transfers coming in but if any of the incoming freshmen prove that they are ready now and beat out an upperclassman for a job, more power to them. I am just glad that they won’t be forced into the starting lineup out of necessity because we don’t have any viable upperclassmen ahead of them.
 

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Has the highest ceiling but as of now, he hasn't shown enough to unseat Vedral. I hope he does, but Vedral will also improve next year because of the improved line.
Yea because he hasn’t played and was supposed to be in high school. Give him a spring and fall camp. He’s light years better than Verdral. Anyone really is.
 

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Kratch had a really good article on OLine today:
https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/...ne-outlook-after-transfer-portal-bonanza.html

Like many of us have said, of all transfers, DiRenzo is most likely to see field.

Dunlap & Tyler both high upside players, who hopefully will benefit from the right program. I wonder if Tyler open to moving inside?

Speaking of, talk of Raiqwon being open to moving inside is super encouraging, because he’s an all-star.

As long as Pierce keeps he’s awesome upward trajectory, he’s in at RT.

I didn’t realize just how bad Sutton’s injury is, so he’s likely out for Spring. Sucks, because he was a FORCE in our first few games

Line’s looking great, with a ton of depth
 

yesrutgers01

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Yea because he hasn’t played and was supposed to be in high school. Give him a spring and fall camp. He’s light years better than Verdral. Anyone really is.
very similar rating as guys from Cuse/Ill/Colo/Ks/Iowa/USF/BC - better than guys from Vandy/Arz/Clem/NWU

But anyway...GW should be much better.
 
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ScottRU93

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Three portal guys start on the O-line ?
100%. No doubt as long as Healthy DiRenzo, Tyler, and Dunlop start. These were guys getting offers from Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, SEC, etc. Dunlop has like 15 games career starts for good MN team, Tyler was offered by Bama and DiRenzo had like 20 legit offers and is ranked like #10 portal impact player.
 

yesrutgers01

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Sutton’ s surgery was in September.
He will have almost a full year of recovery/ rehab.
Unless it’s traumatic he should be back.
That is the point- we really don't know severe it is. I have seen major surgery on an OL ankle a few days after a bowl game and ready for summer practices and have seen major surgery on a player MCL which took a full year off and was never the same.
 
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very similar rating as guys from Cuse/Ill/Colo/Ks/Iowa/USF/BC - better than guys from Vandy/Arz/Clem/NWU

But anyway...GW should be much better.
Don’t let facts get in the way lol.

I too think GW has a very good chance to start and the thing I like most about Noah is he will make GW better by coaching him up and competing with him all offseason. I expect Noah to play this year and maybe even start but there will be a transition and I predict it will go smoothly.

Like you said earlier in this thread or maybe another one I just read, the whole Offense will be much better with the transfer OL and further development of those coming back. We will run the ball better and the QB will have more time and Gleeson will be able to call the plays he wants to call.
 
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RU#1fan

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That is the point- we really don't know severe it is. I have seen major surgery on an OL ankle a few days after a bowl game and ready for summer practices and have seen major surgery on a player MCL which took a full year off and was never the same.

Let’s hope for the former.
 
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OK, let's see your predictions for the offense's depth chart for 2022

Here's my CHOP at it:

QB- GW, Noah or Johnny Everything
RB- K Monangai, A Young or S Brown

WR- S Jones, I Washington
WR- A Cruikshank, B Sanders
WR- S Ryan, J Youngblood
TE- Konopka, Johnny Everything

LT- Raiqwon O’Neal, Hollin Pierce
LG- Ireland Brown, Kobe Asamoah
C- Gus Zilinskas, Bryan Felter
RG- C Dunlap, Reggie Sutton
RT- Willie Tylers, Di Renzo

WR is super-thin. Hopefully Ryan can stretch the D.
OL is getting some depth through the portal.
In GW we trust!
I disagreed after your first entry.

QB: GW#1 with Noah as 1b / functioning QB grad assistant

MO
 

yesrutgers01

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Don’t let facts get in the way lol.

I too think GW has a very good chance to start and the thing I like most about Noah is he will make GW better by coaching him up and competing with him all offseason. I expect Noah to play this year and maybe even start but there will be a transition and I predict it will go smoothly.

Like you said earlier in this thread or maybe another one I just read, the whole Offense will be much better with the transfer OL and further development of those coming back. We will run the ball better and the QB will have more time and Gleeson will be able to call the plays he wants to call.
What I love is that in 10 years- I believe we actually see Noah as an established coach somewhere. I don't know how high or how far up the chain but this kid has it written all over him
 
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