SHU Covid Outbreak

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bac2therac

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Everyone with any understanding of the word “political” recognizes that every time you (you in particular) mention COVID you are doing so in a coded political context using basketball as an excuse for your comments time and again and again. You’re doing nothing but dividing the board only to come back with your it’s abut basketball bs. You’re totally transparent.


actually you are bringing up politics up....rather odd post, yes people can discuss covid without it turning to a political discussion, its just amazing to watch you rant. Because people asks questions and feel a certain way about mandates, that isnt poltical. If you havent moved out of your bubble, Dem and Repubs are both getting tired of bad messaging coming from the CDC
 
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Covid “outbreaks” cute…this same RETARDED crap will happen come every stupid variant…

two weeks to flatten the curve (times 47 now)

get your damned jabs and get back to your life (Brandon back in Feb, though he probably does not remember)
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“If people still die in car accidents while wearing seatbelts, why wear them?” says @Caliknight and other people with sub-90 IQs.

IQ is much higher. As tested.

You know you lost the Covid argument when you have to go to seatbelts. Hope you have a plan. You are going to get Covid. Probability? Soon.
 

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IQ is much higher. As tested.

You know you lost the Covid argument when you have to go to seatbelts. Hope you have a plan. You are going to get Covid. Probability? Soon.
Pretty sure I’ve already had it. I might get it again. I’m not sure how that’s relevant.
 

Joey Bags

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Wouldn't it be smarter to tweak the current MRNA vaccines to the current strains in order to increase the neutralizing effect rather than push boosters every 3 months that are based on the original (long extinct) variant?? I thought this was the big sell on MRNA; that things could be tailored on the fly as the situation sees fit.

My firm just went all virtual again after 35 of ~250 fully vaccinated people caught COVID at a conference in Vegas 2 weeks ago.
 
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bac2therac

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Wouldn't it be smarter to tweak the current MRNA vaccines to the current strains in order to increase the neutralizing effect rather than push boosters every 3 months that are based on the original (long extinct) variant?? I thought this was the big sell on MRNA; that things could be tailored on the fly as the situation sees fit.

My firm just went all virtual again after 35 of ~250 fully vaccinated people caught COVID at a conference in Vegas 2 weeks ago.


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Wouldn't it be smarter to tweak the current MRNA vaccines to the current strains in order to increase the neutralizing effect rather than push boosters every 3 months that are based on the original (long extinct) variant?? I thought this was the big sell on MRNA; that things could be tailored on the fly as the situation sees fit.

My firm just went all virtual again after 35 of ~250 fully vaccinated people caught COVID at a conference in Vegas 2 weeks ago.

As I understand it, not necessarily. The way virus evolution works, a vaccine against the initial strain is more likely to provide cross-variant protection than a vaccine engineered for a specific Variant like Omicron.
 

Joey Bags

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We should go back to March-April 2020 and look up what the eternally wrong stooges like Cali and his ilk were saying about COVID back then. Would be good for a chuckle.
I had a thread up about it in January 2020 and even numbers disagreed that it would be a major event back then, believe it or not
 

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As I understand it, not necessarily. The way virus evolution works, a vaccine against the initial strain is more likely to provide cross-variant protection than a vaccine engineered for a specific Variant like Omicron.
That's interesting to me, because Omicron and every subsequent variant is going to lower the neutralizing effect further until it basically hits zero (it may have already come close to zero with Omicron). If Omicron ends up being as mild as reports may indicate AND becomes the dominant strain worldwide we'll have to reevaluate public health policy as we can't keep having draconian measures if symptoms evolve to where hospitalizations are few and far between.

The big positive out of South Africa so far is the mildness across all ages within the unvaccinated population.
 

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That's interesting to me, because Omicron and every subsequent variant is going to lower the neutralizing effect further until it basically hits zero (it may have already come close to zero with Omicron). If Omicron ends up being as mild as reports may indicate AND becomes the dominant strain worldwide we'll have to reevaluate public health policy as we can't keep having draconian measures if symptoms evolve to where hospitalizations are few and far between.

The big positive out of South Africa so far is the mildness across all ages within the unvaccinated population.

I think what you have to root for now is for 1)Omicron to outcompete Delta. 2)The mildness to be pronounced enough that hospitalizations stay manageable. If those two things are true it could be ok. But we're probably in for some short term pain regardless due to the sheer number of cases we're going to see.
 

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God I wish Pitino was our HC. These mean tweets calling out schools are a thing of beauty.
 

NewJerseyHawk

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Hawk is talking out of his arse

The Big East tournament is not a one time visit.....maybe I am wrong on what that is interpreted as in comparison to the silly NBA rules for visitors vs Kyrie Irving....if you are "performing " or working, not talking out of anything.....

And again, since I rarely touch the topic, but everyone wants to make an excuse for not getting vaccinated, when it has never been about what the longer term items are of having to be boosted etc....

It has or always has been about legal issues and limit of liability.....somehow SHU unvaccinated players knowing you have to "perform" at MSG or NYC for Iona, St John's and MSG for Big East tournament......LMAO

We played a NCAA tournament last year and it makes no sense for some schools and universities to take the necessary steps to limit liability for the greater good of keeping a schedule intact......while some can just do whatever they want.......especially if it can be avoided..........only would a SHU fan try and justify its OK for themselves or their players to have games canceled.....
 

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The Big East tournament is not a one time visit.....maybe I am wrong on what that is interpreted as in comparison to the silly NBA rules for visitors vs Kyrie Irving....if you are "performing " or working, not talking out of anything.....

And again, since I rarely touch the topic, but everyone wants to make an excuse for not getting vaccinated, when it has never been about what the longer term items are of having to be boosted etc....

It has or always has been about legal issues and limit of liability.....somehow SHU unvaccinated players knowing you have to "perform" at MSG or NYC for Iona, St John's and MSG for Big East tournament......LMAO

We played a NCAA tournament last year and it makes no sense for some schools and universities to take the necessary steps to limit liability for the greater good of keeping a schedule intact......while some can just do whatever they want.......especially if it can be avoided..........only would a SHU fan try and justify its OK for themselves or their players to have games canceled.....
What is your point? Vaccinated people can still get Covid and its variants. (I know from personal experience.) They are testing healthy players without any signs of Covid, and because the new variant is highly contagious with mild symptoms, players are testing positive.
 

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Wouldn't it be smarter to tweak the current MRNA vaccines to the current strains in order to increase the neutralizing effect rather than push boosters every 3 months that are based on the original (long extinct) variant?? I thought this was the big sell on MRNA; that things could be tailored on the fly as the situation sees fit.

My firm just went all virtual again after 35 of ~250 fully vaccinated people caught COVID at a conference in Vegas 2 weeks ago.
The smarter thing might have been to not send people to a conference in Vegas.
 

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So when is that safe..2030? Serious question?
Don't know. But IMO it's not now. As we have seen, there are many alternatives to in-person business meetings and events. Not ideal, but there's no critical need requiring companies to expose employees to potentially harmful situations.
 
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Don't know. But IMO it's not now. As we have seen, there are many alternatives to in-person business meetings and events. Not ideal, but there's no critical need requiring companies to expose employees to potentially harmful situations.


but arent they all likely vaccinated anyhow...i thought the...oh wait nevermind
 

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Let's start cancelling games due to the flu as well because, at least among my friends, family and Rutgers Athletic teams, it's worse and more contagious than Omicron.
 
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The posters mocking and/or falsely accusing Seton Hall of ducking an opponent are obviously bitter about Sunday's loss and a real embarrassment to Rutgers fans. Also, I bet the posters claiming this or that about the virus are not doctors or scientists. Once again, an embarrassment to RU.
 

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What is your point? Vaccinated people can still get Covid and its variants. (I know from personal experience.) They are testing healthy players without any signs of Covid, and because the new variant is highly contagious with mild symptoms, players are testing positive.
Yes positively the vaccinated can get the virus. People with booster shots ( yours truly) and also those who had the virus already will most likely get infected again. The shame is those that should be admitting those facts don’t. Simply because “ it’s all about the Benjamins. “ we listened to all the quackery BS … followed the science… yet the STSTEM is still F ‘d up.
 
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I am on the most opposite spectrum politically compared to BAC and Cali.......

I am finding it very hard to understand why we are treating "COVID 3.0" like we treated "COVID 1.0" Maybe I need more data/information. "COVID 3.0" to the vaccinated appears to slot somewhere in between the common cold and flu and doesn't appear worthy of shutdowns.

What I don't know/understand is what the repricussions of a ton of vaccinated people getting COVID to any future strains? IS there value in reducing infections of Omicrom to minimize a worse variant.

I need to be corrected if I am not logical here or missing something.
 

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I am on the most opposite spectrum politically compared to BAC and Cali.......

I am finding it very hard to understand why we are treating "COVID 3.0" like we treated "COVID 1.0" Maybe I need more data/information. "COVID 3.0" to the vaccinated appears to slot somewhere in between the common cold and flu and doesn't appear worthy of shutdowns.

What I don't know/understand is what the repricussions of a ton of vaccinated people getting COVID to any future strains? IS there value in reducing infections of Omicrom to minimize a worse variant.

I need to be corrected if I am not logical here or missing something.
It’s very highly transmissible. The virus mutates. The next one could be worse.
 

RUBOB72

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Wait the guy in charge said he was going to conquer the virus… he was going to gather the best to do that. My opinion and millions of others now… let it run wild… let it do what measles did… maybe those in charge should question the origin. “ it’s ALL about the Benjamins.”
 

bac2therac

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I am on the most opposite spectrum politically compared to BAC and Cali.......

I am finding it very hard to understand why we are treating "COVID 3.0" like we treated "COVID 1.0" Maybe I need more data/information. "COVID 3.0" to the vaccinated appears to slot somewhere in between the common cold and flu and doesn't appear worthy of shutdowns.

What I don't know/understand is what the repricussions of a ton of vaccinated people getting COVID to any future strains? IS there value in reducing infections of Omicrom to minimize a worse variant.

I need to be corrected if I am not logical here or missing something.


thank you for this post, asking questions isnt political at all, your questions are what more people should be doing. To me we are using the same protocols from spring 2020, fall 2020 as we wind down 2021 with no end in sight, everytime something spikes we end up reverting to these policies which have had very mixed results. Zero covid would seem impossible but we are almost acting as if we cannot go back to normal until it is. Unless it magically goes away we are going to have yearly spikes. The CDC messaging has been awful and clumsy the last 8 months filled with contradictory statements. A big problem is its hard to learn the facts because the experts want to push one narrative that everyone keeps to, questioning this and all of a sudden you are anti this or anti that. In the meantime, many have lost trust in our health experts because of it.

We still have politicians repeating daily that if you are vaccinated and boosted, you do not spread the virus, we have twitter saying they are going to ban users who say that vaccinated spreads covid. Something is not right here. There is plenty of misinformation out there on both sides of the scale but winding down 2021 its scary that those in charge are still saying this.
 
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