GAME 7 Illinois: Jordanesque

[BigEastPhil]

New assistant coach voices are needed. Someone from outside the program. I will be very very concerned if all three assistants are back next season.

Been saying this for awhile. We need an assistant who can recruit his *** off. We don’t have one. Knight is probably the only retainable assistant. Jay Young is missed.

 

[RUDiddy777]

Diddy - How do you defend pikes recruiting?

Aside from taking a long view, I look at his peers in the B1G and see that he’s already middle of the pack - and accept that basketball recruiting is significantly different from football recruiting.

Then I try to remember a time before Pike where we had 4 4*s (Cliff, Ron, Jones, Hyatt) and a bunch of 3s with solid offers on the roster and then I realize I wasn’t alive in the 70s.

 

[Anon1751594821]

that Hyatt has made so many mistakes lately he has been banished to the bench on a bad team shows that something isnt working in practice

Surprised that Hyatt has looked so lost. Has been real lazy on defense so far and basically shoots every time he touches the ball. Very disappointing as of now.

Best of Luck,
Groz

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

Been saying this for awhile. We need an assistant who can recruit his *** off. We don’t have one. Knight is probably the only retainable assistant. Jay Young is missed.

Agree about Young. Knights a name coach but what has he done?

 

[kcg88]

Surprised that Hyatt has looked so lost. Has been real lazy on defense so far and basically shoots every time he touches the ball. Very disappointing as of now.

Best of Luck,
Groz

A lot of other guys left LSU so I don't put this on Hyatt buuuut they're 8-0 with a top-5 defense right now. I don't think Will Wade was sweating too much about losing Hyatt (and others).

 

[RU Husky]

As the Carpenters used to sing, We’ve Only Just Begun.

 

[Jtung230]

Before you know it, it’ll be Pikesque.

 

[bac2therac]

As a kid they played this song on NFL Today while showing the lowlights of the first season if the Tampa Bay Bucaneers. For some reason that memory always stuck with me

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

A lot of other guys left LSU so I don't put this on Hyatt buuuut they're 8-0 with a top-5 defense right now. I don't think Will Wade was sweating too much about losing Hyatt (and others).

Basically, most of the 4 star players we are lucky enough to get, aren’t really four star players…Doucoure, Mathis, Mulcahy, Hyatt. Harper probably lived up to it and Cliff probably will. Jones is promising but the jury is still out.

 

[Knight Shift]

Let's keep this simple. Rutgers did not belong on the same court with Illinois. Obvious the talent gap here is pretty big but beyond that the reason why Rutgers lost by 35 rather than 15 or even 20 is because of a complete breakdown of every facet of this program which leads directly back to coaching. Remember we saw glimpses of this at times last year. Talent aside, Rutgers is an extremely soft team. Calling a team soft is one of the worst insults you can call a basketball team but it fits with this one. In 7 games this year spanning 14 halves this program has bothered to show up only in maybe 4 halves. When things go wrong they have no ability to gather themselves and play with some pride. That they lost by 35 should be a wakeup call to all in our fanbase. Remember Illinois throttled RU in the Big 10 tourney last year as well.

A win over Clemson was nice, but Clemson is not a NCAA team, they are a middle to lower end ACC school this season. RU will have some opportunities for wins in the Big 10 versus these type of schools so yeah Rutgers isnt going 0 fer..they will get 3-5 league wins this year. However against any team with a pulse Rutgers is going to get whacked like they did tonight. Beatings are going to be the norm rather than the exception vs the top half of this league. It all goes back to recruiting. What you see on the court now is Pikiell's failure to recruit and huge mistakes in overrating some of his upperclass talent. The only way out of this mess is to recruit the portal hard. As for this season, Pikiell has to figure out some new goals for the program and it should involve putting the younger players in their best position forward and more of an emphasis on working the gameplan around them. There is no NCAA tourney coming so lets move past that and maybe we can actually become a better team by years end then we are right now.

This Jordan? Asking for a friend.

 

[ancienthooper]

I speed-read these Wooden-esque manifestos as the game-to-game, knee-jerk, over-reactions are too laughable. Sincerely hope Pikes leaves and Rutgers returns to the 10 clowns in a Volkswagen they’ve been for 30 years.

 

[kcg88]

Basically, most of the 4 star players we are lucky enough to get, aren’t really four star players…Doucoure, Mathis, Mulcahy, Hyatt. Harper probably lived up to it and Cliff probably will. Jones is promising but the jury is still out.

A lot of those guys were barely 4 stars. Like maybe only one recruiting service rated them that highly. Cliff is the only top 100 player Pikiell has gotten.

 

[kcg88]

I speed-read these Wooden-esque manifestos as the game-to-game, knee-jerk, over-reactions are too laughable. Sincerely hope Pikes leaves and Rutgers returns to the 10 clowns in a Volkswagen they’ve been for 30 years.

Yeah it would really suck if we started losing conference games by 35 points again.

 

[MGSA99]

Funny. We also beat Clemson during the Eddie Jordan era. It was 1 of 6 wins that season.

 

[Jtung230]

I speed-read these Wooden-esque manifestos as the game-to-game, knee-jerk, over-reactions are too laughable. Sincerely hope Pikes leaves and Rutgers returns to the 10 clowns in a Volkswagen they’ve been for 30 years.

Are we there yet? Are we there ye? Are we there yet?

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

RHJ, Geo, Hyatt, Jones, and Cliff would be going HAM at any other school with a pulse and decent coaching. All 5 would be averaging between 10-20 points a game.

unfortunately we have a coaching staff who don’t know how to coach and just rely on effort and luck

No.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

As a kid they played this song on NFL Today while showing the lowlights of the first season if the Tampa Bay Bucaneers. For some reason that memory always stuck with me

It won’t be that bad. Think 5-15. B1G has some Clemsons. Geo comes back. I never thought I’d ever long for Geo coming back.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

It won’t be that bad. Think 5-15. B1G has some Clemsons. Geo comes back. I never thought I’d ever long for Geo coming back.

I still think they win 6 or 7 home B1G games. I think they are too poorly coached and mentally weak to win any B1G road games.

 

[kcg88]

It won’t be that bad. Think 5-15. B1G has some Clemsons. Geo comes back. I never thought I’d ever long for Geo coming back.

I have a feeling we're not going to like the Geo we get. There's no team worth playing for so he has every reason to play only for himself.

It doesn't seem like he'll be back for a while anyway.

 

[Jtung230]

If it was Jordanseque, we can at least blame it on injuries. were We missing all of our bigs in this game?

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

The SHU game is gonna be so so so bad. Like 2015 bad. That SHU team is a bunch of hungry dogs. They have a serious chip on their shoulder. Why? I have no clue but that team is HUNGRY. The hustle, crash the glass, play insane defense. Id be shocked if we kept it within 20 and thats not hyperbole

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I still think they win 6 or 7 home B1G games. I think they are too poorly coached and mentally weak to win any B1G road games.

We would need to improve a bunch.

 

[Shell21]

The SHU game is gonna be so so so bad. Like 2015 bad. That SHU team is a bunch of hungry dogs. They have a serious chip on their shoulder. Why? I have no clue but that team is HUNGRY. The hustle, crash the glass, play insane defense. Id be shocked if we kept it within 20 and thats not hyperbole

Our team is the opposite of that. They made the tourney and are content which tells you all you need to know about them. No dogs in the whole bunch that I see . Maybe Miller , at least he fights . The rest of them should have left after the tourney if that’s the kind of efffoet they’re going to give

 

[T2Kplus20]

Let's keep this simple. Rutgers did not belong on the same court with Illinois. Obvious the talent gap here is pretty big but beyond that the reason why Rutgers lost by 35 rather than 15 or even 20 is because of a complete breakdown of every facet of this program which leads directly back to coaching. Remember we saw glimpses of this at times last year. Talent aside, Rutgers is an extremely soft team. Calling a team soft is one of the worst insults you can call a basketball team but it fits with this one. In 7 games this year spanning 14 halves this program has bothered to show up only in maybe 4 halves. When things go wrong they have no ability to gather themselves and play with some pride. That they lost by 35 should be a wakeup call to all in our fanbase. Remember Illinois throttled RU in the Big 10 tourney last year as well.

A win over Clemson was nice, but Clemson is not a NCAA team, they are a middle to lower end ACC school this season. RU will have some opportunities for wins in the Big 10 versus these type of schools so yeah Rutgers isnt going 0 fer..they will get 3-5 league wins this year. However against any team with a pulse Rutgers is going to get whacked like they did tonight. Beatings are going to be the norm rather than the exception vs the top half of this league. It all goes back to recruiting. What you see on the court now is Pikiell's failure to recruit and huge mistakes in overrating some of his upperclass talent. The only way out of this mess is to recruit the portal hard. As for this season, Pikiell has to figure out some new goals for the program and it should involve putting the younger players in their best position forward and more of an emphasis on working the gameplan around them. There is no NCAA tourney coming so lets move past that and maybe we can actually become a better team by years end then we are right now.

What about Littlepage'esque? If you think this team blows, wait until next season (key departures and subpar recruiting)!

 

[RUSCFORMERLYRULOU]

The SHU game is gonna be so so so bad. Like 2015 bad. That SHU team is a bunch of hungry dogs. They have a serious chip on their shoulder. Why? I have no clue but that team is HUNGRY. The hustle, crash the glass, play insane defense. Id be shocked if we kept it within 20 and thats not hyperbole

I dunno. All bets are off for that game. Gut and brain says it’s another loss for us.

 

[RUfromNJ]

The SHU game is gonna be so so so bad. Like 2015 bad. That SHU team is a bunch of hungry dogs. They have a serious chip on their shoulder. Why? I have no clue but that team is HUNGRY. The hustle, crash the glass, play insane defense. Id be shocked if we kept it within 20 and thats not hyperbole

Idk if I’d go to that game for $500.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

I dunno. All bets are off for that game. Gut and brain says it’s another loss for us.

Im serious when i say id be completely shocked if we kept it within 20.
Not only can we not shoot but they have arguably the best shot blocker in the country who just parks himself in the paint all game. My prediction is 76-52

 

[fluoxetine]

Im serious when i say id be completely shocked if we kept it within 20.
Not only can we not shoot but they have arguably the best shot blocker in the country who just parks himself in the paint all game. My prediction is 76-52

I'll give you SHU -20 +100. How much you want?

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

I'll give you SHU -20 +100. How much you want?

Ill be able to get SHU -20 alternate spread through a book at like +300 so no thanks. Im just telling you what I predict happens

 

[fluoxetine]

Ill be able to get SHU -20 alternate spread through a book at like +300 so no thanks. Im just telling you what I predict happens

So how much are you going to put on it? If it's >50% to happen that's a >100% expected return.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

So how much are you going to put on it? If it's >50% to happen that's a >100% expected return.

$0. Because im not gonna bet on shu over ru lol

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I'll give you SHU -20 +100. How much you want?

Stop it. No need

 

[richthedentist]

Wash...rinse...repeat. Say good night Gracy.

Pike better spend every spare minute recruiting and studying offense. I'll continue to go the games, but at least my spare time has opened up. It's just not worth the aggrevation.

How many times did the color commentator not sure who it was say Rutgers was not running an offense well apparently he has not watched our other games as we never run an offense!!

 

[richthedentist]

The good news is our next game is against the #2 ranked team in the country.

Who will be #1 next week when we play them

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

It won’t be that bad. Think 5-15. B1G has some Clemsons. Geo comes back. I never thought I’d ever long for Geo coming back.

I still think they win 6 or 7 home B1G games. I think they are too poorly coamentally weak to win any B1G road games.

Our team is the opposite of that. They made the tourney and are content which tells you all you need to know about them. No dogs in the whole bunch that I see . Maybe Miller , at least he fights . The rest of them should have left after the tourney if that’s the kind of efffoet they’re going to give

100% correct. Very lazy team. Wish Young stayed and couple of others left. Would
Not be surprised if Geo is out a very long time either.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Pike said it was his best team and the best 5. He completely whiffed on understanding his players abilities

Or, he was helping sell tickets

 

[toby83]

Surprised that Hyatt has looked so lost. Has been real lazy on defense so far and basically shoots every time he touches the ball. Very disappointing as of now.

Best of Luck,
Groz

AAU game

 

[sunsetregret]

It's not often you see a team get out-rebounded by almost double and only shoot 4 free throws.

 

[Scarlet Blind_rivals]

1) It's Game 8, 4-4
2) We will matchup better with other teams in the B1G than this team

3) Illinois played 7 main players 4/5 6'10, 6'10, 7'0, 3 guards 6'1,6'1,6'3, and Granderson 6'6 is a more complete Wing than anyone on our roster.

4) we had 1 guy,Jalen, to match Illinois 3 smallish guards and 1 1/2 guys to guard 3 big guys, the rest of our roster are undersized 4s and oversized 1s and 2s, 6'6-6'8 range
5) Jalen Miller is 6'2 200, Cliff 6'11 240, 1/2 Agee 6'8 245, Reiber 6'10 225 is a stretch 4 on a team that doesn't know how to use his skills, just like it is a foreign concept of have a true point guard telling players where they are supposed to be and give him movement to work with, or drive and dish. This was an utter mismatch of epic proportions that there was no compensating what Pike didn't have on the roster to match what Illinois was doing. Just didn't look that deeply into it to explain the disparities of play and roster size

 

[IL Lusciato]

No pride, no heart, no guts. What a joke. Disgrace to the school and state. Disgrace to the Big Ten.