Last Play UMass 3

[Luvscarletknights]

Just watched it for the first time.

The guy was guarded and he made a good shot.It happens everyday on the court.

If we didn't lose the previous 2 you would not be complaining so much. We got beat on 2 good shots and could be 5-1 if they hit the rim.

Sometimes teams run into some bad luck. Remember that we did make the go ahead bucket in both situations.

 

[zebnatto]

Again, I agree that we should have called a time out but that doesn't mean we win. With 4.6 left, if he breaks that press going uphill we lose--layup or foul at rim,

 

[zebnatto]

Just watched it for the first time.

The guy was guarded and he made a good shot.

It happens everyday on the court. If we didn't lose the previous 2 you would not be complaining. We got beat on 2 good shots and could be 5-1 if they hit the rim.

100%

 

[richthedentist]

He did , but it’s a normal half court shot that he didn’t half to rush. If we call timeout and press we eat the clock up

That shot was not a half court shot he was 5 feet behind the 3 point line and was not being challenged
Mag was backing up the whole time just rewatch the play!!!

 

[Shell21]

That shot was not a half court shot he was 5 feet behind the 3 point line and was not being challenged
Mag was backing up the whole time just rewatch the play!!!

I meant in the half court offense ; a shot you get in the normal half court set; not a rush half courter

 

[cm_13]

Again, I agree that we should have called a time out but that doesn't mean we win. With 4.6 left, if he breaks that press going uphill we lose--layup or foul at rim,

The problem is the lack of ball pressure up the floor allowed him to just step into a 3.

Yes Mag got a hand in his face, but that was about as clean of a look as he could have asked for in that situation.

 

[bac2therac]

Just watched it for the first time.

The guy was guarded and he made a good shot.It happens everyday on the court.

If we didn't lose the previous 2 you would not be complaining so much. We got beat on 2 good shots and could be 5-1 if they hit the rim.

Sometimes teams run into some bad luck. Remember that we did make the go ahead bucket in both situations.

lol...the guy dribbled uncontested for as good as a look you are going to get dribbling a few feet from the 3 point line and Mag was not near him, maybe a stretched out arm

 

[biazza38]

All you have to do is call timeout and that takes care of itself. Does he know it doesn’t carry over? I don’t blame the kids, they were put in a losing situation of the last shot , the coaching staff let them down and shoulda taken the blame. Did any of the kiss *** reporter ask him about this or write that he screwed up?

Doesn’t even need to call timeout. They should know without just in case Umass inbounds immediately and you can’t get it

 

[NickRU714]

Agree, we should have called a TO. But it's not true that the kid was wide open. He made a very tough 1 in 5 kinda shot.

Not even close to 1 in 5 kinda shot or halfcourt shot.
That was much easier then you are describing it.

He was down sideline and no where near halfcourt.

That was maybe a step or 2 behind the NBA 3pt line.
And it was a set shot. Not a running heave.

 

[Shell21]

Doesn’t even need to call timeout. They should know without just in case Umass inbounds immediately and you can’t get it

Both can be true ; but obviously it wasn’t coached and it’s very difficult to get your d set in that situation

 

[Scarlet Shack]

The whole reason mag has to back up there is because the threat of going to the glass ....

If you make them burn clock to bring it up...they have less time and probably call time up with one second to go at half court

 

[zebnatto]

Not even close to 1 in 5 kinda shot or halfcourt shot.
That was much easier then you are describing it.

He was down sideline and no where near halfcourt.

That was maybe a step or 2 behind the NBA 3pt line.
And it was a set shot. Not a running heave.

Never said half court but two steps behind NBA 3 is a very long shot. It was rushed and given that we didn't call TO and couldn't foul Mag's D was decent. Kid made a very tough shot.

 

[zebnatto]

The whole reason mag has to back up there is because the threat of going to the glass ....

If you make them burn clock to bring it up...they have less time and probably call time up with one second to go at half court

If you can't foul, fc press is less effective cause you can't play it aggressively. Teams run curls where player gets ball coming at you hard and you;re dead. That said, the RIGHT press would have been the best call. But 4.6 is plenty of time.

 

[zebnatto]

lol...the guy dribbled uncontested for as good as a look you are going to get dribbling a few feet from the 3 point line and Mag was not near him, maybe a stretched out arm

lol. You can't acknowledge that if they quickly beat the press we lose.

 

[JonathanAlan]

RU has forwards playing as guards. Either play J. Miller or there is a huge hole on the roster.

GO RU

Exactly.....so much for the concept of "position-less " players. Net net you have no true guards , no true forwards.

 

[goru7]

The freak out about the last 3 is so misplaced. Kid made a ridiculous shot that we could have defended better but a two beats us if he goes by our man . The game was easily won and we were up 14 or 15 or even 10 late and stopped attacking the basket. UMASS was the worst defensive team we will see all year. Failure to do high lo with Harper and Cliff last 4 possessions is mind boggling.
They made 16 three pointers and were fouled on 2 others for 6 more foul shots. That is 54-9 advantage from 3. Almost impossible. Should have been a 20-25 point win if we continued to pound the balll. Not going to kill Pike without killing the players all of them , giving up 16 threes , they should all be embarrassed to allow that crap team to be even within 10 points of us. That is the damning stat and the lack of effort or IQ should have them doing suicides all night long. That was a bad sucky team that played no defense and somehow won the game. 3 or 4 of the 3’s were from almost half court but others were not contested properly. Have to get that fixed immediately

 

[bac2therac]

lol. You can't acknowledge that if they quickly beat the press we lose.

its only 4.6 seconds, i guess letting them go contested is what every coach does

 

[kcg88]

Just watched it for the first time.

The guy was guarded and he made a good shot.It happens everyday on the court.

If we didn't lose the previous 2 you would not be complaining so much. We got beat on 2 good shots and could be 5-1 if they hit the rim.

Sometimes teams run into some bad luck. Remember that we did make the go ahead bucket in both situations.

The issue is not that we lost at the buzzer twice. It's that we were even in a position to lose those games considering that 1) one was against a truly terrible team and 2) we had a 17 point second-half lead in the other.

 

[zappaa]

The freak out about the last 3 is so misplaced. Kid made a ridiculous shot that we could have defended better but a two beats us if he goes by our man . The game was easily won and we were up 14 or 15 or even 10 late and stopped attacking the basket. UMASS was the worst defensive team we will see all year. Failure to do high lo with Harper and Cliff last 4 possessions is mind boggling.
They made 16 three pointers and were fouled on 2 others for 6 more foul shots. That is 54-9 advantage from 3. Almost impossible. Should have been a 20-25 point win if we continued to pound the balll. Not going to kill Pike without killing the players all of them , giving up 16 threes , they should all be embarrassed to allow that crap team to be even within 10 points of us. That is the damning stat and the lack of effort or IQ should have them doing suicides all night long. That was a bad sucky team that played no defense and somehow won the game. 3 or 4 of the 3’s were from almost half court but others were not contested properly. Have to get that fixed immediately

My ire aimed at Pike is not continuing to attack the basket and the zone they switched to.
We have bigger, stronger players, we should have attacked them every possession, not pass the ball around the perimeter

 

[S_Janowski]

There really is no excuse for how the last possession played out

Either call a TO or put some pressure on them.

I will agree with the negative OP for once.

 

[Luvscarletknights]

lol...the guy dribbled uncontested for as good as a look you are going to get dribbling a few feet from the 3 point line and Mag was not near him, maybe a stretched out arm

He still had to make it. Sometimes you have to give the other team credit.

 

[Luvscarletknights]

The issue is not that we lost at the buzzer twice. It's that we were even in a position to lose those games considering that 1) one was against a truly terrible team and 2) we had a 17 point second-half lead in the other.

UMASS destroyed PSU so calm down with her we suck stuff.

They are not that bad.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

The question is why?

Also let’s the offense set up a play

 

[MadRU]

One thing that is a must, you must force the inbound to a player whose momentum is heading to our basket. He then must waist time catching, gathering, turning to head up court. Coaching 101.

 

[zebnatto]

Exactly.....so much for the concept of "position-less " players. Net net you have no true guards , no true forwards.

its only 4.6 seconds, i guess letting them go contested is what every coach does

We should have called time out, we should have harassed in the way up. But you talk like there’s no risk to the time out and press scenario. 4.6 is plenty of time. Did Pike mishandle it? Yes. Did the other option have risk? Yes. You can’t acknowledge that since you’re always right.

 

[rucoe89]

The issue is not that we lost at the buzzer twice. It's that we were even in a position to lose those games considering that 1) one was against a truly terrible team and 2) we had a 17 point second-half lead in the other.

And we circle back to the lies that were fed to us all off-season -- this is the best team yet at Rutgers. Embarrassing. You don't have to throw the team under the bus, but to oversell it and then put out a putrid product on the court - huge coaching mistake. There were other ways to present a flawed team with tempered expectations. Pikiell chose not to go that route and has just about lost the fan base. A lifetime to build trust; a moment to lose it.

 

[zappaa]

And we circle back to the lies that were fed to us all off-season -- this is the best team yet at Rutgers. Embarrassing. You don't have to throw the team under the bus, but to oversell it and then put out a putrid product on the court - huge coaching mistake. There were other ways to present a flawed team with tempered expectations. Pikiell chose not to go that route and has just about lost the fan base. A lifetime to build trust; a moment to lose it.

I think he believed what he was saying.
Which makes it a bit scary,
There is no way there’s any positives to overhype on purpose.
He believed it!

 

[rucoe89]

I think he believed what he was saying.
Which makes it a bit scary,
There is no way there’s any positives to overhype on purpose.
He believed it!

I'll give him props to be positive. It absolutely is good to be positive, but as a head coach you have to know the boundary crossing where delusional begins. I don't think he knew.

 

[zappaa]

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I'll give him props to be positive. It absolutely is good to be positive, but as a head coach you have to know the boundary crossing where delusional begins. I don't think he knew.

agreed.
Positivity and ridiculous over-hype are two different things.
Pike is smart enough to know it…he believed what he was saying.

 

[goru7]

My ire aimed at Pike is not continuing to attack the basket and the zone they switched to.
We have bigger, stronger players, we should have attacked them every possession, not pass the ball around the perimeter

You are not incorrect. We stopped going inside or high lo the last 5 minutes like they did all game first half and second half. Very frustrating. Even more infuriating , we were up 15 at 72-57 and they already hit 12 threes and a stitch more of defense and we go up 20-25. They kept hitting these bombs. 16-32 is almost impossible and then add 2 more fouls on threes for 18. We flowed so easily on offense and left them when they were way behind the line and launched. We should have locked down but actually becoming harder to do with this group

 

[Knights 1212]

The kid hit a big time shot but I would have liked a time out and Miller in the game because of his speed and defense. I also wanted him in the game for the last several minutes of the Lafayette game. I want to see him in against Honor of Clemson, Carbelo of Illinois, Ivey of Purdue and Akins of Seton Hall. I cannot see red shirting him with the risk of losing him to the portal. I feel we needed him & still need him now.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

The kid hit a big time shot but I would have liked a time out and Miller in the game because of his speed and defense. I also wanted him in the game for the last several minutes of the Lafayette game. I want to see him in against Honor of Clemson, Carbelo of Illinois, Ivey of Purdue and Akins of Seton Hall. I cannot see red shirting him with the risk of losing him to the portal. I feel we needed him & still need him now.

Do you realize how bad Miller must be if he can’t get any time with the guards that we have?

 

[Knights 1212]

I don't believe that. I have attended 7 practices and he plays in your face defense. I am afraid they are trying to save him for the next 4 years. I want him to help us win now.

 

[bac2therac]

I don't believe that. I have attended 7 practices and he plays in your face defense. I am afraid they are trying to save him for the next 4 years. I want him to help us win now.

This is malpractice if true

 

[fluoxetine]

This is malpractice if true

No, it’s good practice.

 

[bac2therac]

Lol

 

[RUtrumpet92_rivals498139]

If we were 5-1 or better, I could see continuing to save Miller if he is 100% on board with it. But losing games he could help us win to save him for a possible 2025-26 season is crazy.

Mag was in a tough spot there. If he fouled the shooter from 3, this board would be all over him. If he let the guy blow by him for a winning floater, same thing. I agree calling TO and setting up the D with someone big in the inbounder and our best defenders matched up with their players would have been better than letting it go. If there were two seconds left, I would be fine with letting it roll.

 

[Anon1751594821]

did anyone actually expect Caleb to make his free throws....one bad decision compounded by not calling a timeout to set up the D for the last play

oh and while he made it, not a fan of running that play for Paul as your game winner

The real question is how has Caleb gone from being an 80% free throw shooter(3 years in a row!!), to not knowing how to make free throws??

His form is way off and he looks afraid to shoot.

Best of Luck,
Groz

 

[richthedentist]

Do you realize how bad Miller must be if he can’t get any time with the guards that we have?

So that is just another indictment of Pikes's poor recruiting if he is bringing in players that can't even see the floor as freshman let alone qualify as Big10 recruits

 

[richthedentist]

The real question is how has Caleb gone from being an 80% free throw shooter(3 years in a row!!), to not knowing how to make free throws??

His form is way off and he looks afraid to shoot.

Best of Luck,
Groz

It also looks to me like RHJ has changed his form also for the worse I believe