CBB Top 100 players

RutgHoops

Heisman
Aug 14, 2008
9,239
12,411
102
According to Three Man Weave:

121 Joey Hauser, MSU
113 Fats Russell, Maryland
108 Geo Baker, Rutgers
99 Tyson Walker, MSU
90 Erik Ayala, Maryland
89 De'Vante Jones, Michigan
85 Jordan Bohanan, Iowa
67 Ron Harper, Jr., Rutgers
37 Caleb Houstan, Michigan
16 Andre Curbelo, Illinois
15 Jaden Ivey, Purdue
9 Trevion Williams, Purdue
7 Trayce jackson-Davis, Indiana
6 Hunter Dickinson, Michigan
5 EJ Lidell, Ohio State
2 Kofi Cockburn, Illinois

Crazy to think half of the top ten players in college basketball may be post players from the B1G. Good Lord.


https://www.three-man-weave.com/3mw/top-100-players-2022
 

kcg88

Heisman
Aug 11, 2017
10,862
17,230
0
Baker is better than Bohannon. De'Vante Jones may be severely underrated here too, draft scouts seemed to love him.
 
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kcg88

Heisman
Aug 11, 2017
10,862
17,230
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Ayala is the one that stuck out to me as "underrated". Waaayyyy better than Bohanan. Can score, lead a team and is a very good defender.
Donta Scott should be on there too. Wonder why they're so down on Maryland. I agree with Fatts being out of the top 100, I don't think he's anything special. In fact I'd put Ayala, Scott, and Qudus Wahab above Fatts just on the Terps alone.
 

NewJerseyHawk

Heisman
Jan 11, 2007
24,458
38,752
113
I really like Qudus Wahab, who transferred in from Georgetown and I absolutely would have Cliff within the Top 100....Kofi Cockburn at #2 is way too high.
 

Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
40,437
23,613
0
Baker is better than Bohannon. De'Vante Jones may be severely underrated here too, draft scouts seemed to love him.
Baker is different than Bohannon. It is tough to compare them. Bohannon's D is so bad he shouldn't be on the floor, but he can shoot. I fully expect a RU player or 2 PLUS Harper will be ahead of Baker on this list.
 

kt124

All-Conference
Jun 28, 2021
2,157
3,456
0
Trayce Jackson Davis has never given us much of a problem
 

littlenis5

All-Conference
Jun 21, 2004
1,489
1,032
113
Trayce Jackson Davis has never given us much of a problem
I’m mildly concerned that indiana will have a real offensive system this season with Woodson and TJD will look incredible every game. He’s always seemed like a player who was just horribly restricted by poor coaching
 
Feb 5, 2003
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No Jacob Young or Myles Johnson on the list despite several here saying they were our best/most important guys last season. It feels like even with his offensive limitations, Myles belongs on this list with his defensive ability.
 

Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
40,437
23,613
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No Jacob Young or Myles Johnson on the list despite several here saying they were our best/most important guys last season. It feels like even with his offensive limitations, Myles belongs on this list with his defensive ability.
They were most important by a mile. They might not be that important on their new teams
 
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Shelby65

All-Conference
Apr 1, 2008
8,387
4,661
66
Myles, no. Offense matters.

Cliff, no, at least not based on performance so far.

Agree with RHJ and Geo.
 

RutgHoops

Heisman
Aug 14, 2008
9,239
12,411
102
I’m mildly concerned that indiana will have a real offensive system this season with Woodson and TJD will look incredible every game. He’s always seemed like a player who was just horribly restricted by poor coaching

Indiana is going to be mediocre....again. The best part of the CBB season for Indiana fans is July and August. Woodson is no improvement over Archie. Just isn't. And they hired Thad Matta as part of the athletic department and it appears his job is to watch Woodson and report back to their new AD on what he sees/thinks. O/U is January 15th on when Woodson tries to punch him in the face. Fun times.

Rutgers is this much better than IU:

 

Shelby65

All-Conference
Apr 1, 2008
8,387
4,661
66
Greene...not sure what 'offensive career' you watched, but the end was the same as the beginning and the middle. Good defensive player, 1000%.

Now's not the time or place for me to criticize on the guy, and I wish him luck...but I will say he's not a Top100 player by any stretch of the imagination.

Cliff has the potential to be, but he isn't either presently. Too raw and limited. It's too late for MJ to be labeled raw, however. He reached his potential by now.
 
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RUsojo

Heisman
Dec 17, 2010
29,436
28,578
113
Greene...not sure what 'offensive career' you watched, but the end was the same as the beginning and the middle. Good defensive player, 1000%.

Now's not the time or place for me to criticize on the guy, and I wish him luck...but I will say he's not a Top100 player by any stretch of the imagination.

Cliff has the potential to be, but he isn't either presently. Too raw and limited. It's too late for MJ to be labeled raw, however. He reached his potential by now.
Myles was fine offensively but we should not have been posting him up. He should’ve been used solely as a lobs/blocks center. I thought a big part of our below average offense was trying to feed him in the post too much.
 

goru7

All-American
Dec 12, 2005
6,432
7,710
113
Myles was fine offensively but we should not have been posting him up. He should’ve been used solely as a lobs/blocks center. I thought a big part of our below average offense was trying to feed him in the post too much.
What Rutgers team have you been watching the last 2 years. If anything, Our offense hardly ever fed Myles and underutilized him in the post and had him come up to set screens , which led to a lot of moving picks and silly fouls, and away from the offensive glass, which he also excelled at. Our guards have been horrendous feeding the post .

Greene, don’t listen to Shelby, as he regularly posted **** on Myles all last year. He is partially blind.
 

RutgHoops

Heisman
Aug 14, 2008
9,239
12,411
102
What Rutgers team have you been watching the last 2 years. If anything, Our offense hardly ever fed Myles and underutilized him in the post and had him come up to set screens , which led to a lot of moving picks and silly fouls, and away from the offensive glass, which he also excelled at. Our guards have been horrendous feeding the post .

Greene, don’t listen to Shelby, as he regularly posted **** on Myles all last year. He is partially blind.

Myles was a terrific defender and an integral starter on two pretty darn good Rutgers basketball teams. He competed in the post mano a Mano against some of the best CBB players in the country. Full stop (IMO).
 

Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
40,437
23,613
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I thought he was underutilized offensively. With his long arms he was an easy target. He was just as happy passing out of the post then scoring.

if one categorizes offensive rebounding as offense than you have to say he was an above average offense player.

he was 98-156 from the floor or 63.8%. That has to count for something.
 

RutgHoops

Heisman
Aug 14, 2008
9,239
12,411
102
I thought he was underutilized offensively. With his long arms he was an easy target. He was just as happy passing out of the post then scoring.

if one categorizes offensive rebounding as offense than you have to say he was an above average offense player.

he was 98-156 from the floor or 63.8%. That has to count for something.

I loved Myles and don’t want to take a shot, but…

Was he a better offensive player than Donta Scott? John Harrar? Micah Potter? Those are not the names of the better big men in our league.
Myles was a great defensive player. His defense kept us in games playing head to head against some of the best offensive players in CBB. He was a (very) poor FT shooter and commanded no respect if he strayed more than 8’ away from the basket. Unless he was involved in a pick n roll set or fed directly in the low post his inability to stretch the floor (even a little) meant the lanes were going to be clogged for our drives. He was the epitome of a “perfectly fine offensive player”… with an inability to make FTs.

Now i need a shower because he is one of my all time favorites.
 
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NewJerseyHawk

Heisman
Jan 11, 2007
24,458
38,752
113
I think Fatts Russell is a little bit low

Fatts is a little turnover prone from the games I watched and got away with a lot of 1 on 1 up at URI.....he's going to have some of those opportunities but I am not sure where he will be defensively over 2 to 3 months of B1G level play.
 

Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
40,437
23,613
0
I suppose if you lined up the other 13 centers offensively he would be closer to the bottom than the top.

I still think he was underutilized both in the low and high post. Many times I’d rather see the ball in his hands 15 feet from the basket looking for a cutter or opposite for an open perimeter shot than to have the ball in Jacobs hands
 

toby83

All-Conference
Dec 23, 2014
4,095
3,822
0
the little Richmond guard Jacob Gilyard is better than lot of players ranked ahead of him
 

Shelby65

All-Conference
Apr 1, 2008
8,387
4,661
66
GoRU...posted truth, not ****. It's ridiculous for someone to suggest setting screens well makes one a 'good offensive player'.... and beyond that, a Top100 player.

So, does blocking shots also make one a 'good offensive player' because they may lead to fast break baskets ?

Absurd. We all know good offense when we see it. Myles is very weak on offense, and very strong on defense. Since UCLA has more talent than RU, he will be a limited role player there.
 

Greene Rice FIG

Heisman
Dec 30, 2005
40,437
23,613
0
GoRU...posted truth, not ****. It's ridiculous for someone to suggest setting screens well makes one a 'good offensive player'.... and beyond that, a Top100 player.

So, does blocking shots also make one a 'good offensive player' because they may lead to fast break baskets ?

Absurd. We all know good offense when we see it. Myles is very weak on offense, and very strong on defense. Since UCLA has more talent than RU, he will be a limited role player there.
I can't find anywhere someone posting these things.

The argument is should Myles had more touches. The guy shot 68% from the field so good things happened when he got a shot off. Obviously when he took a shot often times it was others that did the work getting him high percentage shots.
 

Shelby65

All-Conference
Apr 1, 2008
8,387
4,661
66
Greene..dunks are part of the game, sure, so I am not discounting them. But I wonder what his percentage was on non-dunks. And also consider the muffs/kicks and other cringeworthy turnovers on gimmes where he didn't get a shot off.

You'd have no argument from me if he made a Top50 defensive player list. Maybe even Top 25. Fine. We needed his minutes and defensive presence. One might even say he was our MVP (but JY is my choice). But he was a very weak offensive player. Bad hands, soft, no range, etc.
 

combes

Heisman
Jul 10, 2001
36,256
10,766
66
Baker is better than Bohannon. De'Vante Jones may be severely underrated here too, draft scouts seemed to love him.
Trent Frazier is better than Bohannan plus he’s not a punk like Bohannan.
 

Russ Wood

Heisman
Oct 12, 2011
94,313
45,143
0
Fatts is a little turnover prone from the games I watched and got away with a lot of 1 on 1 up at URI.....he's going to have some of those opportunities but I am not sure where he will be defensively over 2 to 3 months of B1G level play.
They needed him to do that at URI. He'll have more talent around him than he ever has and should be much more of a facilitator at Maryland.

Will be interesting to see how good his defense is over the course of a full B1G season.

Still, I think he's a little low, like, by 3 to 5 spots.
 

Russ Wood

Heisman
Oct 12, 2011
94,313
45,143
0
Fatts is a little turnover prone from the games I watched and got away with a lot of 1 on 1 up at URI.....he's going to have some of those opportunities but I am not sure where he will be defensively over 2 to 3 months of B1G level play.
I only saw the last 4 minutes or so of Tuesday's game? I see he had 2 turnovers in the game. How was he defensively?
 

NewJerseyHawk

Heisman
Jan 11, 2007
24,458
38,752
113
I only saw the last 4 minutes or so of Tuesday's game? I see he had 2 turnovers in the game. How was he defensively?

Fatts was solid last night, RU didn't run any post ups to their guards like they did in College Park and RU settled for jump shots instead of driving and pulling up to shoot over the defense.....Caleb got to the paint and then went to far to allow the weak side defense to block his shot....if he pulls up, he did but missed his 2 pointers.