We'll be looking for wins to be bowl eligible. No time to sprinkle in plays for a kid not expected to contribute until next year. The bowl game is far greater priority than getting Wimsatt snaps.
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They're not going to trot him out there until he can prove that he is ready to be out there... Biggest hurdle for that at this moment will be getting reps as they are into the game week schedule now... The reality of his situation is that he just went from being the ballyhooed recruit, to being the 5th string QB overnight... Now, that's not a knock on him.. That's just the reality at this moment.. The benefit is... He will be learning all the stuff he needs to learn now, so that come winter conditioning and spring practice he will have a leg up on all of that.... And he can also start cashing in on NIL... This kid is no dummy... To have enough credits to graduate a full year early is proof of that...
We have no idea what we really have in GW. True freshmen QBs play all the time. You think that a few weeks of practice in August are the difference for those kids? They are simply special. Again, I don’t know what we have yet but speculating that he won’t play is baseless. If he shows out in practice he’ll be playing real game minutes.
Summer camp makes a huge difference, and even guys who are not early enrollees are on campus a month or two before that.
That’s probably true. Camp is great for the 1s and 2s but below that guys aren’t getting any real reps. Again, I’m not saying he’s definitely playing. But, I also know that every year there are 1-2 kids who come out of nowhere because the starter and backup got hurt, etc, and play real minutes.
if it were any coach other than Schiano I'd say such poor use of subs was unforgivable.. yes.. especially in a game that would end up 61-whatever
It makes a huge difference because that when they are teaching and installing the offense. Once game weeks starts the practice time and teaching time is drastically reduced. How do you show out in practice if you don't know the system? They have a game to get ready and can't stop to try and catch up a freshmen. If he arrives Monday he still has to go through the 5 day acclimatization period so the earliest he will even be in full pads will be next week.
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Have you ever been to a college camp or college program? You sound completely clueless. Camp is the only time that the guys deeper on the depth chart actually get reps and time. Once camp is over other then individual periods with positional drills most of their time is on scout team. They are running the opponents plays not their own,
And we're talking about a QB here who is going to RUN the offense. He needs better knowledge of the entire package than anyone else on the field.
That's correct but he's not a true freshman. He's a high school senior.
Big difference.
Did he play a HS game the week before or was he in the Michigan camp learning the offense?
There is no qb controversy. We have an average journeyman veteran starter and an incredibly talented incoming freshman with no training camp reps. The veteran starts until the freshman learns the ropes. Then he starts. That’s more of a plan than a controversy. Enjoy the ride and support Vedral until the coaches determine that Wimsatt is ready to play.
Thats the last topic i wish to discuss today. Possible crises and serious financial pain.
He's not starting these games. You get him in late in games if and when the games get out of reach.
Obviously he has to prove himself capable of whatever reps he gets. And I'm not saying he will, but he could.
And let's not forget we saw Schiano trot out a physically underwhelming Freshman in Chas Dodd however many years ago. Was Dodd more familiar with the playbook at that point? Yes, but he played a bunch. Wimsatt at best is going to play with a limited playbook, my original question was asking about sprinkling in snaps. We've seen similar in more recent years with young fairly highly touted QB's. Those guys didn't pan out, but it does highlight how coaches, especially those whose current QB's are underwhelming, are eager to get that QB of the future on the field.
you guys are insufferable sometimes. kid just showed up on campus and you're ready to anoint him the chosen one and speculate about him taking the starting job. we won 61-14. it wasn't pretty, but give the coaching staff the benefit of a doubt and trust the process in this very very young season.
McCarthy enrolled in January and fully participated in Spring and Summer/Fall camp. Huge difference.
No, no, no. Just like Carnak the Magnificent (not sure if you're old enough to remember this) he will hold up the playbook to his temple and instantly divine it in it's entirety.
Always. At one point, Ted Trump, Ryan Cubit, and Terrance Shawell were better options than whoever started (mostly Ryan Hart).
Games out of reach, how many of these did we have last season? Don’t really recall any as we were competitive in all and expect the same here as we fight to be bowl eligible.
Exactly the same delusional fans that demanded Art start as a true freshman because he had more "potential" than Gio. And we saw how that turned out.
Now throw in no spring practice or training camp and it will all work out for the best & Wimsatt will lead us to a bowl game in their minds.
If he came in January and won the job for 22, find he won it. He had a chance. However, no camp, no spring, playing against HS kids a week prior, I don't see how we can play him. It's just a bad idea.
I'm not sure your point here.
Are you saying people here are speculating he will be starting THIS year? Because I'm not seeing anyone saying that.
Are you saying people here are speculating he will be the starter in the years ahead? Not sure how that is out of place.
No it was his first game action since playing in HS. And one of his 4 completions was for a TD.
Those saying Wimsatt can’t play this year might be in for a surprise.
I just hope that in 2 years people aren't talking about him putting on weight and converting to TE after a 3 and out against Ohio State.
I'm over the idea of QB's coming in and playing way before they are ready(maybe the problem here has been those guys aren't that good). But we see it nearly every year. We also have a QB in place who has been less then impressive.
Guys acting like there is no chance he gets in games this year? History suggests otherwise.
McCarthy played at IMG and played top schedule that included college JV teams along with top high schools. McCarthy also enrolled in January and had a full spring practice, full summer camp. Comparing that to a kid showing up mid season is ridiculous who can't even practice in full pads until after the second game is ridiculous.
Getting garbage times reps is one thing but calling it a QB controversy is just crazy. Also there never been a case of a kid quitting high school mid season and joining the team. There is no history of that.
I meant mid seasons as in the season has already started not the literal mid point of the season. Due to NCAA rules he can't even practice in full pads until after the second game.
If Wimsatt enrolled in January, we would all expect hm to play. Because he's coming in after the season started, there's no way you can play him in this leauge without camp. He's also a year younger than he should be.
Midseason if you start at fall camp. But even if you don't it makes no difference if you say "shows up on campus after the season has started."
This is the way most if not all programs operate these days. If they thought the backups were close they might have gotten a meaningful series. Vedral is the guy for now so they were getting him reps.