SIAP: Jacob Young considering Oregon?

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Not saying I disagree here but it’s all
speculation. Wondering if the same could be applied to Johnson and Mathis. If Johnson was very happy here, I think he stays. As we’ve learned, it wasn’t about Stanford at all. Then the question becomes, is the problem with all of these players, or is it with the “core” of the team.?
All speculation
 
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Mr_Twister

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An excellent head start on a career involving sportswear and footwear. As is Maryland.
 

dpwhite

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Yes 100%. Myles is a kid that loves RU and left because networking back home where he plans to live post college is the right decision for his future. Tez left for more playing time and shorter leash. No hard feelings for either of these decisions. JY considering Oregon isn’t like these decisions though. For whatever reason - in his case, the message is basically coming across that if he chooses to continue playing college level hoop - “anything but Rutgers” with Oregon and a bunch of other scattered schools in the mix.

You have to add “to you.” I don’t know if anyone else is viewing the message that way.
 

MADHAT1

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People are leaving Oregon
People come people go.
The question is: if there are more coming than those that leave.????????
For the Ducks only a certain amount can come and the number is based on the players on scholarship that has left the program and the number of roster spots allowed to be filled.

My guess: if his little brother wants to be Duck, Joe's Coach at Oregon will add Jacob, if a roster spot is available
 
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Not going to lie. I am a little annoyed when a player that could have stayed, (and was shown a lot of love here) and lead us to the tournament again, chooses to leave. Still wish him the best. He’s a class act. I can be annoyed at the same time, however.
If he does re-emerge at Oregon, it's possible that 40% of the Ducks starting 5 will be Rutgers Scarlet.

Wonder if Eugene got in his ear?

Hope not... but not a happy camper on this one.

Myles I understand (I have lived in and around Long Beach CA for 50 years)... so the UCLA thing makes sense.

Eugene / now Young...is Quackers!

MO
 

MadRU

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Did I miss something. Did JY officially announce for Oregon?
 

dpwhite

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If he does re-emerge at Oregon, it's possible that 40% of the Ducks starting 5 will be Rutgers Scarlet.

Wonder if Eugene got in his ear?

Hope not... but not a happy camper on this one.

Myles I understand (I have lived in and around Long Beach CA for 50 years)... so the UCLA thing makes sense.

Eugene / now Young...is Quackers!

MO


Yeah Eugene is gone. JY hasn’t transferred yet. Everyone needs to take a breath.

 

MADHAT1

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Yeah Eugene is gone. JY hasn’t transferred yet. Everyone needs to take a breath.


Asking everyone here to "take a breath." will only get this:
>Breathe deep the gathering gloom,
Watch lights fade from every room.<
 

PSAL_Hoops

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You have to add “to you.” I don’t know if anyone else is viewing the message that way.

No, this one isn’t “my view”. It’s a fact not an opinion that if he decides to play another year of college ball he wants it to be somewhere other than Rutgers. He said to RU nation “I’m outta here” right away and he’s actively considering other colleges far away from his home and family. I don’t know how strong his academics are but the schools he’s looking at are worse academically than RU and they aren’t even confined to one geographical area so as to say he just really wants to go be in the “Midwest” or “south”. Why he doesn’t want to be at RU is an unknown but clearly he doesn’t want to be here for whatever reason.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Don’t be surprised if Jacob Young is still in scarlet next year

The exact words in his 3/21 tweet were “Thank you for everything RU nation - JY out”. He can surely change his mind, but that was a pretty direct public statement from him saying that he’s not planning to come back to Rutgers.

I’d love to get him back, but I think the 2021-22 team might actually play better team ball without him. I’m pretty bullish overall on next season regardless. But should we have a down year, a JY transfer to Oregon would make it sting more. It’s one thing to have a rebuild when your stars run out of eligibility or go pro. When they choose to move on to another school (and there’s not a clear academic or personal reason such as going close to home) then it’s not the same thing perception wise. As said, winning would solve that rather quickly!
 

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The exact words in his 3/21 tweet were “Thank you for everything RU nation - JY out”. He can surely change his mind, but that was a pretty direct public statement from him saying that he’s not planning to come back to Rutgers.

I’d love to get him back, but I think the 2021-22 team might actually play better team ball without him. I’m pretty bullish overall on next season regardless. But should we have a down year, a JY transfer to Oregon would make it sting more. It’s one thing to have a rebuild when your stars run out of eligibility or go pro. When they choose to move on to another school (and there’s not a clear academic or personal reason such as going close to home) then it’s not the same thing perception wise. As said, winning would solve that rather quickly!

Regardless of how RU plays in 21-22, the expanded use of the portal as well as the COVID eligibility rules has pretty much thrown a monkey wrench into the specified negative perception of individual schools losing players to transfer.
 

RUsojo

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I mean could you blame him? He was used so so so poorly at RU. Was the best player on the squad and was treated like a role player at times. The team shouldve been built around him. We just had too many emotional guys that couldnt handle it
Preach.

The things people make up to denigrate JY is absurd.
 
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The exact words in his 3/21 tweet were “Thank you for everything RU nation - JY out”. He can surely change his mind, but that was a pretty direct public statement from him saying that he’s not planning to come back to Rutgers.

I’d love to get him back, but I think the 2021-22 team might actually play better team ball without him. I’m pretty bullish overall on next season regardless. But should we have a down year, a JY transfer to Oregon would make it sting more. It’s one thing to have a rebuild when your stars run out of eligibility or go pro. When they choose to move on to another school (and there’s not a clear academic or personal reason such as going close to home) then it’s not the same thing perception wise. As said, winning would solve that rather quickly!
yes, more than likely he is gone..... yet we can look at the way Baker was pretty much saying goodbye ( hugs, handshakes)at the end of our last home game....it seemed to be a foregone conclusion with him

we can still hope
 

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JY hadn't taken off his uniform before he posted his goodbye tweet. As clear a sign he didn't want to be at Rutgers as there is. He is incredibly selfish and Rutgers is better off without him.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Regardless of how RU plays in 21-22, the expanded use of the portal as well as the COVID eligibility rules has pretty much thrown a monkey wrench into the specified negative perception of individual schools losing players to transfer.

You say this now and at the moment, your right. Perception across the board is that the transfer market is simply out of control with attribution to Covid.

All I’m saying is - IF (and by no means am I predicting this...) we have a down year while JY leads Oregon to another NCAA run (with Eugene there adding salt to the wound) it would not, at that point, be a good look for us. RU is not alone in this respect. I think you could say the same thing - that it would not reflect well on a lot of tourney teams that had star players move on to other schools should they follow with a down season.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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You say this now and at the moment, your right. Perception across the board is that the transfer market is simply out of control with attribution to Covid.

All I’m saying is - IF (and by no means am I predicting this...) we have a down year while JY leads Oregon to another NCAA run (with Eugene there adding salt to the wound) it would not, at that point, be a good look for us. RU is not alone in this respect. I think you could say the same thing - that it would not reflect well on a lot of tourney teams that had star players move on to other schools should they follow with a down season.
Kind of disagree with this sentiment. Assuming Jacob is gone, he is gone.

What happens to him is not relevant to Rutgers basketball. Would it really be a bad look to Rutgers basketball if a player, who was a free agent, leaves because he didn't get along with players? No program has all players 100% happy,

It would be a bad look it we go 12-19 next year. What happens in Oregon means nothing to RU .
 
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BillyC80

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That would be Grand Illusion. Saw them at the RAC. Waited in line for tickets. Saw them with my Douglas girlfriend. Now wife. Not bad.
I was there too (with an ex-gf I met at RU), October 24, 1979. Remember it well.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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At most schools a rebuild season is expected and understandable every few seasons (except a few reload blue bloods) when star players go pro or run out of eligibility. If it ends up being the case that “RU badly feels the loss of JY” that will be a punch line you’d hear over and over again from announcers calling our games.

Put yourself in a recruits position - do you think they think of it the same when a star player moves on to go pro versus choosing to play college ball somewhere else? I hope I’m wrong and recruits typically don’t give this distinction a fleeting thought. That seems like an awfully Scarlet coated view on this one - I mean it’s a big life decision for them. Think about it - if you were considering a new job and found out that the person you would be replacing resigned for a lateral position at another less prestigious firm wouldn’t you wonder why? Would you not view it differently from a person leaving for a role that was a major title promotion - in which case you wouldn’t give it a second thought right?

Hopefully it’s just me and these kids don’t care about these things because In that situation - JY’s departure would again be spotlighted during the Oregon March Madness games (there would be frequent references considering Oregon would have 2 former RU players starting). Better yet - let’s go 19-12 or better rather than 12-19 and put this entire concern to bed.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Young carried Rutgers into the tournament.
….and Myles (defensively).

offensively Baker had the keys, but Young’s play (and Bakers poor play) and energy forced Pikiell’s hand and Young was the man at the end of the season.

No Young and no Myles and this was a 5-15 team at best. Even if Baker and Harper come back we need new guys to be good and returning players to be MUCH improved.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Outside of a few announcers Jacob Young’s value to us would be underrated.

He scored 14 ppg and led the team in both assists and steals. If we have a down year, there’s no question announcers would speak regularly about us feeling his absence. Whether it reflects worse if he picks another college rather than going pro is certainly debatable - but it’s a given that this will come up in commentary discussion if we have games where we struggle to score.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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He scored 14 ppg and led the team in both assists and steals. If we have a down year, there’s no question announcers would speak regularly about us feeling his absence. Whether it reflects worse if he picks another college rather than going pro is certainly debatable - but it’s a given that this will come up in commentary discussion if we have games where we struggle to score.
You may be right, but I don't know how backward looking announcers and talking heads are in the middle of January.

The question could be is if the blame (by announcers and THs) is on Pikiell or leaders of the team or both.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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You may be right, but I don't know how backward looking announcers and talking heads are in the middle of January.

The question could be is if the blame (by announcers and THs) is on Pikiell or leaders of the team or both.

Not sure about blame but talking heads always reflect. They need to come up with things to say to fill conversation during the games. Conversation starter on the wrong side of a blow out - “Rutgers is really missing the presence of Jakob Young in this one, don’t you think?” It’s not just us, would be that way for anyone.
 
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JY is solid. Not as bad as some think and not as good as others think. He’s not going to the NBA and if he’s not here next year it doesn’t mean Rutgers will be worse off.
 
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