Houston Cougars

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my version of a hot take: Houston is the worst final four team in the past 10 years. Baylor will crush them.

what happened to OSU is what happened to us.

Houston is the only Final Four team to ever play four consecutive double digit seeds. OTOH, Houston plays lights out defense. That will keep them in the game.
 
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NiTeKnight

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Nov 28, 2003
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Any one of THREE Myles plays probably win that game...
ally-oop
bunny put back
a simple defensive rebound on the missed 3 with a minute left.

Hate to pick on Myles but man he did not have a good end game.
Myles hurt his ankle in the Clemson game and I think it affected his play against Houston. I think we beat Houston if Myles was 100%.
 

DHajekRC84

Heisman
Aug 9, 2001
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Near the end of the game. Rebounded near out of bounds - had a chance to throw the ball off the guy and missed him to the left.
That was Myles falling out of bounds. Yup, just another piece of straw on the camel's back lol.
 

DHajekRC84

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Aug 9, 2001
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Man I was actually hoping the Beavers came back and pulled that one out for dear ol Karma.
You know we are going to have fans saying not only did we go to the NCAAs last year but we were a Final 4 Team this year lol.

That guard got healthy and played a heck of a game. Not to mention his on court leadership.
 

mikeyoc

All-Conference
Apr 19, 2005
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Any one of THREE Myles plays probably win that game...
ally-oop
bunny put back
a simple defensive rebound on the missed 3 with a minute left.

Hate to pick on Myles but man he did not have a good end game.
Let's not forget the fact that if that game was in the regular
season Myles probably would not have played
 

Jtg=04131996

All-Conference
Aug 2, 2010
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Houston hits the offensive glass better than any team I’ve ever seen. They can technically see a 5th double digit seed if they meet UCLA in the final!

I’m hoping for a Gonzaga-Baylor final, though. Probably the two best non-blue bloods I’ve ever seen.
 

NewJerseyHawk

Heisman
Jan 11, 2007
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I haven't seen this again in the last 2 or 3 days.

There's more than 1 way to look at what is a choke....Houston was choking the game away to RU, more than RU winning the game....Carelessly turning it over unforced, countless missed FTs and a banged up 2nd best player, who was at best 65% functional.

Illinois should be most disgusted, they rifled through 2 NBA players in Cockburn and Ayo and got 1 NCAA win out of that era. The unbelievable inability to adjust to what Loyola Chicago was running on offense and defense, was something that will trail that coaching staff for awhile.....sloppy turnovers was their downfall

Ohio State lost to a 15 seed and turned it over a ton, along with missing a ton of FTs.....and then a super-small portion of the Buckeyes fanbase, embarrassing themselves with death threats and hateful comments towards their star player, EJ Liddell.

Then the vaunted Tom Izzo, of countless Final Four, up 11 at halftime and in control of a game against UCLA, has an altercation going off the court with Izzo and bench player, Gabe Brown....they blow a 5 point lead with 2:20 left and had the ball.....on 2 possessions, they turned it over or had a shot clock violation.....then get nothing in OT, lose to UCLA....

I can count down any and all of the teams eliminated in the tournament.....every school has a story on what went wrong and how they would have done this or that, the path would have been this easy, or that open.......it's all a guess.

What's funny about the fans saying RU choked, they never look at what the opponent did or didn't do....it's always a 1 track mind.....Houston was deemed "softer", than Iowa, Ohio State or the other 2,.3, 4, 5 or even 6 seeds, because they played in the AAC.....well, they have a Top 10 national recruit who in 95% of their games, is the best player on the court in Quentin Grimes.....and despite the woulda, coulda, shoulda, the same RU fans bashing the team, were at times saying this team wasn't going to make the NCAAs, multiple times during the regular season....or some other nonsense that fits the story of bashing the team.

You can be Ohio State, Illinois, Iowa and have your best team in a 5 or 10 year window, and get eliminated in the 2nd round, 1st round or Sweet 16.....there's no guarantees in a 1 game tournament.

We did accomplish a lot in the last 2 years and won a 1st round NCAA game....we are now a little bit more "on the map".....our kids made a statement as did our coaches.....and we did it, while eliminating the notion that RU was fueled solely because we have a great home court.

At the end of this tournament, it looks like it will be 3 #1 seeds in Michigan, Baylor, Gonzaga and a #2 seed in Houston.....who in reality, would have likely lost to Illinois, if the Illini hadn't crumbled vs Sister Jean's Loyola squad.

The next step for RU is to keep finding the right fits for the program on and off the court, so RU is in the discussion for the NCAAs.....the future is pretty bright to me folks, doesn't mean RU is going to Dance every single season for the next 5 years because they've gotten the rebuild completed....it's now trying to stay consistent more years than not.....there are a only a handful of teams that dance 3 or 4 years in a row.....
 

Knights 1212

All-American
Sep 9, 2003
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Thanks Hawk. You are so right on this. You are a man of reason as usual. Be Well. I think more of our fans need to understand this.
 
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This^^^ You guys are totally missing the big picture, the game was obviously fixed, the people in power in the NCAA will simply never allow Rutgers to fulfill its destiny to be the dominant program in both men's basketball and football.
HAHAHAHAHA. one step at a time bro-a win for the #Sweet16 would have covered it for this year.
 

RUChoppin

Heisman
Dec 1, 2006
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Houston has been playing good defense all year against teams without much in the way of offense (highest ranked points scored/game this year was Boise St at 69th), but have also come up against teams in the tournament that don't have very good offense.

Points scored/game this year:
Cleveland St: 187th
Rutgers: 235th
Syracuse: 82nd
Oregon St: 196th

Curious to see how they do against Baylor, who has the 6th highest ppg in the country.

On the flip side, they also played great offense during the regular season against teams with fairly bad defenses.... averaging 77 ppg coming into the tournament. But they've then averaged just 64 ppg over the last 3 games against major conference teams with double-digit seeds. The only major conference school they've scored more than 67 points against was South Carolina (Houston scored 77), who finished the year 328th in points allowed/game (79.1 pts allowed).
 

FrankZ_RU93

Heisman
Jul 27, 2001
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That was Myles falling out of bounds. Yup, just another piece of straw on the camel's back lol.

Well the good news is the torture elicited from Timo Perez's refusal to run from 1st in Game 1 in '00 will never be surpassed (regardless of what sports torture I henceforth see). 😩
 

Russ Wood

Heisman
Oct 12, 2011
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It is exactly this - it does feel that much worse, because they really don't seem like they're that great of a team. If they were a clearly better team and we just couldn't manage to beat them, I'd take the loss less hard.... but we outplayed them for most of the game, then let a handful of blunders open the door for them to steal the game back.
I don't think Houston is a great team but they are good. The way they rebound, especially on the offensive glass, is freaking impressive.

In my bracket I had them beating Rutgers but losing to West Virginia. The reason I picked it that way was I thought Kelvin Sampson was worth 5 points against Rutgers but I thought that would be a wash against WVU.

Against Rutgers Marcus Sasser and Justin Gorham had uncharacteristically poor offensive games. Gorham had foul trouble and Sasser couldn't score. Some of the lack of scoring was good Rutgers defense.
 

scarletrat

All-Conference
Aug 28, 2003
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it's not that RU lost, it's how they lost, and then seeing the seas part in the region in a way we haven't really seen...you would have had 8, 10, 11, and 12 in the regional final...that's never happened.
Houston is impressive in how they get to the boards late in games without fouling at all apparently.

the games between Clemson and Houston followed similar scripts....up 10-11 in 2nd half, other team comes back...difference is Clemson was called for charge and we got the lucky bounce to make it 4 pt lead late...opposite occurred vs Houston...they got an and-1 late and we only got 1 shot off (long 3) in last 2 possessions...

both games we struggled at end