I mean its good for the blue bloods and we have reaped it’s benefits on occasion. But more often, it takes things away. Time to reform?
Maybe the problem is the transfer portal
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it is reforming...just going the way of the wild west more than before. Honestly, it always sucked for a kid to be stuck somewhere when their HC, lead recruiters, etc had free reign to leave any time.
There are 13 scholarships per team and about 340 teams or so. That means roughly 1 out of every 5 players in college basketball is in the portal
The portal will work out very nicely for some and very badly for others.
I can’t find the article now but read a couple days ago that over 40% of college basketball players have been in the portal by the end of their sophomore season. Lot of movement.
I think the portal is fair. Why should a kid have to stay in a program. Coaches leave all the time.
If a college student wants to transfer, whether they play sports or not, it's their right to do so. If they're academically qualified and/or athletically qualified to gan entrance into another University then so be it. Players are not employees under contract prohibiting them from breaking their employment contract. They should be treated the same as every other college student.
I don’t believe players should get paid or monetize their basketball exploits while being an amateur.
I fully believe they should have more freedom where they are going to play, live. and go to school.
I think every player should be able to transfer once without sitting out a year.
the portal is a good thing.
I fully believe they should have more freedom where they are going to play, live. and go to school.
I think every player should be able to transfer once without sitting out a year.
the portal is a good thing.
I think its a bad thing because its out of control now
the issue is who is it bad for players or schools?
The NCAA should say the only way you can transfer without sitting out a year is if your coach leaves. other than that you need to sit out.
i do not want to hear that grandma got sick. you should have thought of that when grandma lives in new york and you decided to go to school in Arizona. Go be be close to grandma focus on school for a year and you will be ready to play the following year.
The NCAA should say the only way you can transfer without sitting out a year is if your coach leaves. other than that you need to sit out.
i do not want to hear that grandma got sick. you should have thought of that when grandma lives in new york and you decided to go to school in Arizona. Go be be close to grandma focus on school for a year and you will be ready to play the following year.
can you imagine you are at school and you wanted to transfer but someone said if you transfer you cant have _ex for a year. We will allow you to hang around and watch people, but you can’t do it.
that is wrong
It will work out perfectly for Duke, UNC etc.
They get 5* 1 and dones for premier talent. For kids that take time to develop into 5*s, they can go to NC State, Rutgers for 3 years, become polished and get them to transfer for last season to UNC, Duke.
I would complain, but I want RU to get transfer talent to fill our roster voids through the SAME portal.
They get 5* 1 and dones for premier talent. For kids that take time to develop into 5*s, they can go to NC State, Rutgers for 3 years, become polished and get them to transfer for last season to UNC, Duke.
I would complain, but I want RU to get transfer talent to fill our roster voids through the SAME portal.
Why would they stop you from having mex for a year?
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Settle down Beavis
When I think of rampant transfers I look at Nebraska's program and the constant influx of players and their lack of cohesiveness....
I like that kids have the freedom to move instead of abusing the hardship rule (which became a joke) but I wonder if we're going to see a few years of wonkiness with kids jumping around for greener pastures only to find that there's 'no place like home' and it stabilizes at some point...
I like that kids have the freedom to move instead of abusing the hardship rule (which became a joke) but I wonder if we're going to see a few years of wonkiness with kids jumping around for greener pastures only to find that there's 'no place like home' and it stabilizes at some point...
You probably won’t see the large number of transfers at NU like you have the last few years. Joinery has 3 kids signed that are HS or Juco’s with multiple years to play. He did have the “talk” with 3 players this year who have entered the portal and it doesn’t sound like he will be hitting the portal too hard. They just landed CJ Wilcher from Xavier and he would take a point guard if found the right one. The rest of the scholarships(5 total, so 3) are for HS kids. Nobody that played when the game mattered is transferring and one of the seniors who could(Webster) return for free year is coming back. I think they would like Stephenson to go but won’t force him out. He defines ball hog. Ha.
I don't how today's NCAA coaches can focus their energies on recruiting both high schoolers and portal transfers when formulating their rosters. Imagine devoting weeks and months wooing H.S. recruits only so they can them jump ship after one season should a higher profile suitor come along?
Why just eliminate NCAA and turn Football and Basketball in to semi pro league with schools and players sharing revenue?
Attending classes should be all on audit bases and do volunteer work in the community.
Attending classes should be all on audit bases and do volunteer work in the community.
It is frustrating because I believe the kids should get the opportunities but their needs to be some rules and the response isn’t coaches can leave...
The portal , at least this year is turning college into the nba because now the players have the power over the coaches like the nba . Weather good or bad this is the way it is now. If you don’t like the way you are being used , go in the portal. If you aren’t getting along with someone on the team , go in the portal . If the coach isn’t using you exactly the way you think you should be used , go in the portal . If the coach isn’t kissing you butt in the media or during the season, go in the portal .
Not saying this is good or bad , but this is like the nba where players pick and choose and have all the power . And don’t for one second think that aau/ handler influences stop once you are in college . All these kids have people in their ear saying the grass is greener and they are being misused , etc.
again, I’m not faulting the kids but this is the culture now and the way kids are wired .
Not saying this is good or bad , but this is like the nba where players pick and choose and have all the power . And don’t for one second think that aau/ handler influences stop once you are in college . All these kids have people in their ear saying the grass is greener and they are being misused , etc.
again, I’m not faulting the kids but this is the culture now and the way kids are wired .
“I think its a bad thing because its out of control now.”
Agree with Bac. I think it’s a blight. How many players looking to transfer UP are going to find that there’s little to no interest? And then when they want to come back their coach/school has the attitude, “Well wait a second, you said you wanted to leave”? Not a healthy situation.
Agree with Bac. I think it’s a blight. How many players looking to transfer UP are going to find that there’s little to no interest? And then when they want to come back their coach/school has the attitude, “Well wait a second, you said you wanted to leave”? Not a healthy situation.
And once you enter yourself in the portal your current school is under no obligation to take you back. There are going to be a lot of sad stories written next season about guys that misjudged the situation and ended up nowhere or in a crappy situation. Incredible to think there are almost 1000 freaking players in the portal and it’s not even April.
What is the portal? It's just a simple and effective way for coaches to know that there is a player who is transferring and now he can contact that player without violating any NCAA rules. Kids don't even have to tell their coach that they want to enter the portal. They can simply go to a member of their school's compliance department and give them something in writing (I think an email is acceptable) saying that they would like to enter the transfer portal.
It is slightly different from the previous system when a player would go to his coach and ask for his release so he can transfer.
Also, let us not kid ourselves. There are many kids in the NCAA Transfer Portal because their post season meeting with the head coach did not go as well as they hoped. They took the hint and entered the portal.
The possibility of immediate eligibility is driving some of the transfers this year. Also, some kids probably wanted to transfer last year but stayed where they were because of covid.
We have no idea how this is going to go. It’s hard to fathom how the rich don’t get richer though. Could it be like free agency in baseball? The best teams have a great “farm system “ ( players that grow up in the program)but pick up 2 key guys in “free agency?”
Agree this year is a total shitshow...with the extra year of eligibility and all, NCAA caught flat footed as usual. No idea of the repercussions. It needs real reform. Grad transfer...ok. One time move if coaching changes, ok. Can’t be a free for all every year
Bluebloods and bag money teams stand to gain the most. They are the ones who will waive success, tradition and/or $$ to get the best players moving like the Pied Piper. The NCAA is getting close to being a sh*show and men's basketball could soon turn me off similar to the NBA has over the past decades.
I believe...that once a player enters the P...the school is no longer required to honor the scholorship. If that is truly the case, then basically the only leverage a coach has. You immediately start recruiting and getting a commit from another player.
This is hardly an ideal process that has been created.
Maybe the likeness debate, depending how it’s handled could actually help resolve this transfer issue mess. Not if it’s an unlimited bidding free for all, but if it’s monitored sensibly. Certainly entering the transfer portal would not be in Geo’s interest. His likeness profitability is very much tied to the Rutgers brand.
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Russ is right also----many HC's are glad these guys are leaving because they were poorly evaluated out of HS.
I disagree on how it will effect the mid majors .
Many schools are going to end up with guys they couldn't get a sniff from out of HS simply because the kids don't get the interest they thought that they would get by entering the portal from the Power 6 leagues .
If I was a mid major HC I keep 2 scholarships in my pocket till May and let things shake out.
Russ is right also----many HC's are glad these guys are leaving because they were poorly evaluated out of HS.
I disagree on how it will effect the mid majors .
Many schools are going to end up with guys they couldn't get a sniff from out of HS simply because the kids don't get the interest they thought that they would get by entering the portal from the Power 6 leagues .
If I was a mid major HC I keep 2 scholarships in my pocket till May and let things shake out.
100% and no exceptions to the rule. Your coach doesn’t leave and you are not a 5th year you sit out a year. All to often we hear dad got sick mom got sick brother got sick, 88 year old grandma is sick... that is sad however doesn’t mean you play right away, transfer sit the year out spend time with family play following year.
Wait a minute . When I transferred that is exactly what I was told. You mean that wasn't true???