Can't overlook NW

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Also it's just such an unusual year that I would just hesitate to call things "locks". No one really knows how the committee is going to view teams that are like 13-12 when those teams would've been 17-13 in normal years. We can speculate and hope they get it correct but until it actually happens...
 

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it is entire body of work

I 100% agree, I'm not saying it's because of the bad finish.

What is it about
13-12 (9-11)
Q1 4-8
Q2 3-4

That screams lock to you? I get that the B10 is the toughest conference, in fact I've been beating that drum harder than most.
 

BigLou

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Hmm yes I remember you were making these completely unsupported proclamations last year about how many teams the league would get in.

Also it's hard to finish 9-9 in 20 games.
I meant 9-11
Look at the teams below #9 in the standings. Very possible they end up no better than 8-12 in conference, if so, not getting in. Below us currently are Indiana and Minnesota. if we only win 2 more games. likely they have beaten us which is not good for the ranking

How many teams ended up getting in last year? I don't recall making wild claims but at 10-10 Michigan was #9 and probably would have been the cut off.
 

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RU is LOCK with 2 more wins...period

have you people looked at the actually dearth of teams competing on the bubble.

there is absolutely nothing...dregs, it is hard for me to even come up with a first 4 out

its nauseating that our fans continue to act like we do not have a good team and losing so ingrained into their fandom that we think RU will have a collapse

amazing what one loss to a 4 seed Iowa will do
 

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If Rutgers was going 1-19 in league this year, this is the game that should be the win. We have to think in terms of an 11-9 regular season and a 6 or 7 seed for the tournament. That means show up and take care of business tomorrow.


this....the people scared of a team that lost 10 in row while giving Rutgers no credit for their body of work....yes RU can lose tomorrow, but geez people relax this is a game that tourney teams win. Be confident not scared.
 
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I meant 9-11
Look at the teams below #9 in the standings. Very possible they end up no better than 8-12 in conference, if so, not getting in. Below us currently are Indiana and Minnesota. if we only win 2 more games. likely they have beaten us which is not good for the ranking

How many teams ended up getting in last year? I don't recall making wild claims but at 10-10 Michigan was #9 and probably would have been the cut off.

I suppose no one will ever know how many teams would've made it last year, and I agree that 8-9 is the likely number of teams getting in this year.

My point, though, is that you can't start from the premise of "9 teams are getting in" and then work backwards from there. It depends. There definitely exist scenarios where 10 teams get in. Last year at this time there were scenarios where 11 or even 12 could get in.
 

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RU is LOCK with 2 more wins...period

have you people looked at the actually dearth of teams competing on the bubble.

there is absolutely nothing...dregs, it is hard for me to even come up with a first 4 out

its nauseating that our fans continue to act like we do not have a good team and losing so ingrained into their fandom that we think RU will have a collapse

amazing what one loss to a 4 seed Iowa will do

I feel like people are comparing Rutgers' eventual resumes to other teams current resumes. Some teams will improve their resume between now and selection Sunday (and vice versa)

I absolutely DO NOT THINK we will finish 2-5 by the way, it's just a hypothetical. The loss to Iowa had little impact on my views. I don't think talking about the minimum wins needed implies that you think the team will collapse.

this....the people scared of a team that lost 10 in row while giving Rutgers no credit for their body of work....yes RU can lose tomorrow, but geez people relax this is a game that tourney teams win. Be confident not scared.

If we lose tomorrow I will be very, very concerned. Today, on the other hand..
 

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i don't agree.

At 9-9 there is a good chance we end up 9th in the league. The league is not getting 10 teams in so as the 9th place team with a .500 conference record, we need at least 1 win in the BTT to da
BAC is correct. Take a close look at how bad the resumes of the teams below us are. 9-11 are we are in.
 

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BAC is correct. Take a close look at how bad the resumes of the teams below us are. 9-11 are we are in.
most of the Mountain West schools have basically traded wins against each other as their best wins. A10 has no quality wins. ACC bubbles are non existant. Big 12 has now bubbles with TCU losing again. UConn and St Johns have weak profiles. Drake just lost by a million.
 
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Has the big ten in the past sent teams in with a losing conference record? Of course different with covid, just curious...
 

PSAL_Hoops

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most of the Mountain West schools have basically traded wins against each other as their best wins. A10 has no quality wins. ACC bubbles are non existant. Big 12 has now bubbles with TCU losing again. UConn and St Johns have weak profiles. Drake just lost by a million.

There are other teams though that haven’t even been on the radar that have picked up recent wins and could continue to win down the stretch. I don’t see how you can be certain the committee would favor an RU team losing out down the stretch sans Nebraska over, for example, a team like Ole Miss if they were to do well down the stretch (haven’t even been on the bubble but could easily move there). It’s not a guarantee that Tenn and Missouri will appear a less impressive pair of wins than Illinois and Purdue at the end of the season. It depends what those 4 teams do down the stretch. Wouldn’t the computer numbers converge a lot if they keep winning and we keep losing?