Pernetti worked his *** off trying to get us into the BIG--and it worked--Delany loved him. Many of you are just uninformed about his role in that super important endeavor and your hate shows .
Tim Pernetti at IMG
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It’s a few hours on a Saturday. I’m sure he could fit us in for the occasional home game.
Seriously, I don’t think people realize what a ******* dumpster fire the Big East leadership was. At one point it was Pernetti and Oliver Luck bandaiding the conferences deals.
And he smartly was positioning us for the Big 12 and the ACC the Big 10 fell through. His name was appearing ADs in major conferences all over the country.
Yes, Mike Rice, a recommendation by Bob Hurley, turned out bad - though not at first - and honestly, that’s only a scandal at Rutgers. And lots of good ADs make bad hires - even with real money to spend.
I think the only people who don’t appreciate how amazing it was to get a school with no money and no real history of winning into the best conference in the country are Rutgers fans. Outside of our fanbase, people are still in awe of that accomplishment.
When the media has an axe to grind, your done, we've seen that since 2016
Schiano and mulchahy positioned to get us into the BIG . Pernetti took the call.
Yeah, I don’t think you were paying much attention to all the stuff that was going on. Seems like you’re hung up on two bad hires, neither of which looked terrible in 2012 - but of course they do now with the benefit of hindsight.
Flood was awful from the start . Flood was a dud ad some of us knew .
Schiano and mulchahy got us into the BIG
What the hell did Tim do to you, knock your ice cream cone out of your hand?
Tim tried to hire Cristobal, the trustees wouldn't pay for Cristobal and gave Tim less than a million a year to hire a coach. Who was he going to get after signing day with a garbage budget? Mike Rice was a really good coach. That was not a bad hire. His 2011 class was top 20 in the country and they would have been in the NCAA's by 2015 if not for the fact that the trustees, yet again being cheap asses, decided not to pay out Eric Murdoch. So if you don't like those results, which I can certainly understand, lay the blame where it belongs- at the feet of the chintzy board of trustees. Hell, they almost screwed us out of the Schiano rehire until there was a mass revolt.
Honestly, looking at who was available and P5 ready in December 2015 (not to mention affordable) - and how they’ve done since...there were a hell of a lot misses. Aside from Kirby Smart, Bronco Mendenhall and Matt Campbell, a whole lot of coaches who have since been let go - or are about to be let go - in easier jobs than Rutgers.
That stated, it was a bad hire.
Plum Street is the one out in front, of course. Ready to whack Tim with his purse.Actually not - yes, it was more, but not by a lot. One of the reasons he turned it down along with the minuscule assistant coaches' salary pool. And the lack of any commitment to facilities.
This coming from the founding member of the "Pernetti is Satan Incarnate" pitchfork and torch mob. Which one are you again?
Lol. No he was just a lousy ad. I am not sure why the love affair here . Hobbs has been better and he hired ash . That’s not saying much
Agreed on Hobbs; his ability to fundraise has made a huge difference for all sports, and he's gotten the right guy in charge of both hoops and football. Although Ash didn't work out at least he cut bait as soon as he could and was able to afford it because of the donor relationships he built.
And I think she could have been a fine AD somewhere else. Instead they took a novice, threw her into a political and media minefield, with no money and a fan base and donors that largely adored her predecessor, who was easily the most popular, well liked administrator at the university and were pissed because he got a raw deal.
Instead it set our athletic program back 5 years and wrecked her career in sports management.
Flood had no real administrative support. It’s pretty difficult to recruit when every opposing coach can you a lame duck and the administration basically confirms it.
I don't think that purse matches his outfit though, whaddaya think?
Could easily make room to broadcast 13 games a year on weekends
It was ill-conceived and destined to fail from before the beginning
He is in a role where he has to interact with all schools across the nation, I don't think broadcasting for Rutgers would be the wisest thing.
I mean, I am sure he could do a couple of guest visits in the booth but certainly, not as a norm. And to be honest, this is a guy that is on the road a large portion of the year and most likely working 60-80 hrs per week...He also spends time with various other interests and projects(charity) and then tries to fit in time with a great family as well. Prepping and doing 13 broadcasts - you aren't just showing up without a lot of prep work. Don't think the man has an extra 5-10 hrs per week for something like this.
Though, who knows...I can't speak for a man that I really don't know that well. Have met with him over the years for business when he was with NYCFC and also a few convo's in regard to post football life and getting him and Kevin together to discuss this transition when Kev was making his transition after the NFL. Tim has always answered my emails and calls but I can't profess to really know him closely.
That's all fair and a great take. Most likely it is not feasible without a significant career change involved. It sounds like he is good at what he does and is happy with it . Good for Tim.
Pernetti didn't "just take the call from the BIG"--he actually was the one who MADE hundreds of calls to the BIG to help get us in--hell, even his wife was calling/snoozing with those in power--those invovled know how important he was in the process
I think Tim helped us get into the BIG. Our basketball team received nothing for ages and Tim pushed the idea of improving the RAC. I thought he was a good AD. Mulcahy did absolutely nothing to help our B-Ball team, in fact he insisted we not get a home game when we played Penn State and St. Joseph's in the NIT. He couldn't wait to get rid of Gary Waters to make Fred Hill Jr. our new coach. That set us back for years. He spent every dime on football. That is the truth. The B-Ball deserved some money as well and now they are proving how good we could be in basketball. All of our sports deserve some attention.
Agree. The rah-rah Pernetti stuff on this board stems from him being buddies with a few prominent posters here. That's it. Very few objective Rutgers fans think he was a good athletic director or that he did anything more than answer the phone when the Big Ten called. Nice guy and RU supporter? I'm sure he is. Competent AD? Absolutely not.
I think Frank Broyles did his thing with Keith Jackson while still the AD at Arkansas.
So maybe not every game, but the occasional guest appearance would be nice...on our ears.
I have no idea how Tim would have ended up as our AD as he wasn't really given much of a chance. Mike Rice hire? Ehhh- maybe a few red flags but what were his choices to be honest? We weren't exactly a destination for a top Coach or even an average coach unless he had a little baggage. And let's be honest- how bad were the Rice transgressions in the scheme of Major College BB...Flood- that has been talked about over and over. Tim's first choices said no- and for the money, I can understand that. So, for his sub 1 mil budget and almost nothing for assistants, what were his choices? And for the $750- would it have been all that bad of an investment short term if Tim had stayed on as AD? He either would have removed Flood if it got that out of control, or he would have actually tried to help the man succeed and all that crap that happened, most likely never happens. And again, in the world of big time sports- what Flood did, is laughable. His biggest issue is that he allowed the players to get out of control but I maintain that it may have never gotten to that point if Tim was still in position.
As for the B1G- the absolute deal to that is that it never happens without Greg and Bob. But.....It never happens without Tim either. He was tireless in the pursuit and his knowledge of television, demographics and cable contracts and how to position all of that along with what Greg and Bob built, made it all happen.
I also dare to say that Tim's $750k Football Coach was a better hire than Hobbs $2mil man who interviewed well and that His Rice hire was much better then the next hire we had for BB
Cmon man . Everything I have heard about Delany is he was an excellent administrator . So I am sure he could figure out that there were a lot of cable subscribers in New York and New Jersey . Pernetti did what he was supposed to do . He was a baseball closer getting the ball with a 3 run lead in the 9th inning .
I am saying Tim couldn't have gotten it done without Bob/Greg but also saying it wouldn't have been done by the two of them alone.
Bob/Greg built a program that was worthy of B1G consideration. B1G was still in the ABR mode until it came to cable subscriptions and that is where Tim sealed the deal. To think the path is different makes no sense when we all know that B1G was looking at this Market, not the team. And that was Tim's expertise. He didn't happen to be in the right place at the right time and it was a coincidence that his background is exactly why the B1G eventually too Rutgers in but it had nothing to do with him...
Like we all know, greg and mulchahy got the school into the BIG . Tim did his part : Like a baseball closer that comes into the 9th inning with a 3 run lead . Pernetti didn’t bake the cake , but he did what any bakery employee would do and put the icing on it. .
Kyle Flood - elite recruiter and savvy offensive line coach,
I dont think anyone is taking credit away from the contributions of Greg or Uncle Bob.
And if you want to compare Tim’s role to that of Mariano Rivera, I think we can agree with that.
No drugs, though you seen to be on a downer when Tim P is mentioned as someone who helped the B1G invite to happen.
If you don't like the MR closer reference, maybe a good golf story will be more to your liking
At the B1G Invitation :
Bob , Greg and Tim worked with the same ball and each had a role to play.
Bob used his driver to nail a long one off the tee, many didn't think Rutgers was B1G material
Greg pulled out the iron he needed to reach the green, that shot made the B1G notice.
Tim then took his putter and calmly put it in the hole and the birdie brought membership in the B1G.