ESPN is reporting five players out this morning...
Syracuse Game in jeopardy?
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They had five players out last night and still played. As long as there’s no outbreak which doesn’t seem like there is game should go on
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How nuts was it we didn't have a schedule 3 days before the start of the season.
I expect the unexpected this year with college basketball. The ultimate solution will be where the money curve and safety curve meet. If conference tournaments are scrapped or altered then BTN, ESPN, FS1, etc. have to be made whole somehow.
Increasing the field would just mean playing 3 games the 1st weekend and not 2.
I have no idea what will happen. I don't think conference tournaments and the conventional 68 team field is going to happen.
Boeheim plays a small rotation and every other important player played last night: Dolezaj, Griffin, Girard, Richmond, Guerrier, Braswell, Newton, Anselem.
One more positive test probably cancels it but for now it's game on. They'll be missing Buddy Boeheim (contact tracing) and Bourama Sidibe (injury).
if there are more spots it would be a good thing, since it might help teams like RU that lost the Baylor and the possible Syracuse game.....but if they keep the same number we might be be hurt by the numbers crunch, unless we over achieve in league.
You are in the distinct minority thinking that a team currently in the top 25 is one of the last eight in the field as the BEST CASE scenario. To me, best case scenario is we are top 4 in the B1G regular season (13+ wins in league) and looking for a #4 seed. 8-2 at home, 5-5 on the road, undefeated OOC.
I drink the Kool-Aid.
I am more concerned about our program in two years once Baker and Harper move on. The freshmen and just-signed recruits look very promising but they need to be ready for major roles.
There is a chance Harper is here in 2023.I drink the Kool-Aid.
I am more concerned about our program in two years once Baker and Harper move on. The freshmen and just-signed recruits look very promising but they need to be ready for major roles.
Things are certainly looking up . But this is league is tough and even good teams can have bad years.
In Pike We Trust!I drink the Kool-Aid.
I am more concerned about our program in two years once Baker and Harper move on. The freshmen and just-signed recruits look very promising but they need to be ready for major roles.
Doubt that will happen. SHU is welcome to cancel the game this year or move their game to a neutral location, but that doesn't mean they get to host next year instead. If they beg off this year and don't want to play at the RAC in 2021, they'd likely have to beg off next year as well.
RU/SHU will either find a neutral site for this year and next, or more likely not play this year or next. It sucks, but Rutgers can't force SHU to play this year if they don't want to - and isn't willing to give up next year's home game because SHU decided to cancel this year's game.
The SU game is part of the Challenge so the 15th ACC team should come to the RAC in SU's place if they have to cancel.
five players out of a basketball game is huge....... it is a severe disadvantage playing against a decent team..... you have to imagine RU playing a top 20 team with 5 guys out, and not just the bottom five.....it would be tough
This is the equivalent of Rutgers not having Montez Mathis, Nick Brooks, Aiden Terry, Luke Nathan, and Daniel Lobach. (And Geo is hurt, just as Sidibe is hurt for them). We could still field a roster even with those losses.
The big ten schedule alone should be more than enough to get us in, even at 10-10..never have multiple teams been ranked so high..maybe 1976..Iowa Wisconsin and Michigan State all in the top ten..why wouldn’t Rutgers and Indiana both get in..8 teams from league is a conservative estimate for qualification. We were only somewhat on the bubble until the last game because of our road record. Win more on the road, and it won’t matter if we schedule another OOC opponent at home...
Not concerned about the OOC record, as Rutgers will be judged by results from in-conference of which it will meet up with a number of ranked opponents.
What concerns me is having the team sit out over 2 weeks prior to playing its Big 10 schedule, if and only if the Syracuse game is cancelled. I'm curious why Rutgers was not able to schedule a game for late this week when opponents were available and at least one, in Notre Dame, even said they would travel.
I also think playing 3 cream puffs prior to the Conference games provides false confidence and lacks an opponent with talent to push the team in potentially uncomfortable situations. I'd rather the team lose a game or 2 to equally talented OOC foes and learn from the loss, instead of beating up on lesser talent without facing any adversity. But that's just me.
What concerns me is having the team sit out over 2 weeks prior to playing its Big 10 schedule, if and only if the Syracuse game is cancelled. I'm curious why Rutgers was not able to schedule a game for late this week when opponents were available and at least one, in Notre Dame, even said they would travel.
I also think playing 3 cream puffs prior to the Conference games provides false confidence and lacks an opponent with talent to push the team in potentially uncomfortable situations. I'd rather the team lose a game or 2 to equally talented OOC foes and learn from the loss, instead of beating up on lesser talent without facing any adversity. But that's just me.
well, clearly the remaining Syracuse players need be tested with more immediate results... Every day until the game. As well as the contact guys.. if they come up clean X days in a row.. play the game. Most players even if they get it it won't amount to much.. but then you have all the others with which they come into contact.. and then all the others with which THOSE people come into contact.
The people continuing to say OOC as if it's different from in league schedules, clearly never paid any attention to anything in the last 2 to 3 years.
The metric is entire schedule, not OOC vs B1G.....there is no such thing as anything other than the ENTIRE strength of schedule.
The only reason OOC schedules keep getting brought up incorrectly and inaccurately is because 4 years ago, the B1G only got 4 teams in the tournament and some teams like Nebraska went 12 -6 in the B1G and didn't make the NCAAs.
The reason Nebraska didn't make it, despite a very good B1G record was because the B1G was not a quality league that season.
So playing Cuse with a potential outbreak or SHU, who already had an outbreak, doesn't help RU on overall strength of schedule.
For anyone that thinks a 9 win 11 loss B1G team isn't making the NCAAs is also crazy as well. The league is first in strength of schedule as of today.
Instead of repeating wrong or old or inaccurate items from 5 or 10 years ago, it is best to join 2020-21 and use what is being actually watched today and this season.
RU isn't going to benefit by playing a Chicago State (Northwestern) or Alabama A&M (Ohio State). I don't understand this anymore than any other fan, but I am going to ask a lot of questions if Ohio State doesn't or can't play RU in 3 weeks, because they decided to play some team ranked in the 320 to 350 range, just to say they're 16-10 overall vs possibly missing B1G games and wind up being 13-8 overall.
The metric is entire schedule, not OOC vs B1G.....there is no such thing as anything other than the ENTIRE strength of schedule.
The only reason OOC schedules keep getting brought up incorrectly and inaccurately is because 4 years ago, the B1G only got 4 teams in the tournament and some teams like Nebraska went 12 -6 in the B1G and didn't make the NCAAs.
The reason Nebraska didn't make it, despite a very good B1G record was because the B1G was not a quality league that season.
So playing Cuse with a potential outbreak or SHU, who already had an outbreak, doesn't help RU on overall strength of schedule.
For anyone that thinks a 9 win 11 loss B1G team isn't making the NCAAs is also crazy as well. The league is first in strength of schedule as of today.
Instead of repeating wrong or old or inaccurate items from 5 or 10 years ago, it is best to join 2020-21 and use what is being actually watched today and this season.
RU isn't going to benefit by playing a Chicago State (Northwestern) or Alabama A&M (Ohio State). I don't understand this anymore than any other fan, but I am going to ask a lot of questions if Ohio State doesn't or can't play RU in 3 weeks, because they decided to play some team ranked in the 320 to 350 range, just to say they're 16-10 overall vs possibly missing B1G games and wind up being 13-8 overall.
In general, I would normally totally agree with your thinking. BUT, I think it is important psychologically for our team that we are still now in the top 25 and will be when starting the Big Ten Schedule.
At the end of the day, what we do all through the season, will make the impact towards the NCAA tourney, but I don't want our psyche to take a shot right now. Yes, there is a slight risk of the "false confidence", but I think our coach will keep us grounded and focused
Sure, I have yelled for years that we need to get into the Maui tourney or one like it and play 3 tough games in 3 days.
Best of Luck,
Groz
I will bet that a 9-11 or 10-10 Big Ten team (or with covid, 8-9 or 9-9) misses the tournament this year.
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The powers that be will be thrilled just to actually complete the season.
There's a reason they're granting an extra year of eligibility for winter
athletes. They know it'll be a miracle if they have a somewhat normal
conclusion to this season at all. As long as the vaccines work in some
comprehensive way, next year should be super. We'll be back at the RAC. Something to look forward to.
There's a reason they're granting an extra year of eligibility for winter
athletes. They know it'll be a miracle if they have a somewhat normal
conclusion to this season at all. As long as the vaccines work in some
comprehensive way, next year should be super. We'll be back at the RAC. Something to look forward to.
NJH,
this isn’t the last 2 or 3 years. Players playing in the games the last 2 or 3 years didn’t get a free year playing in those Games. Playing in games the last 2 or 3 years you didn’t have to weigh playing games with getting a virus and/or miss 14 days. There are teams that aren’t even allowed to play home games or practice in their town. There are empty gyms and no revenue to pay FDU $40,000 to come play us.
this isn’t the last 2 or 3 years. Players playing in the games the last 2 or 3 years didn’t get a free year playing in those Games. Playing in games the last 2 or 3 years you didn’t have to weigh playing games with getting a virus and/or miss 14 days. There are teams that aren’t even allowed to play home games or practice in their town. There are empty gyms and no revenue to pay FDU $40,000 to come play us.
I'm not worried about the Syracuse game, if it happens or not. They look like a Q2 or Q3(51-100) at best this year. Every zone team we face, Mulcahy has been our zone killer, and others have that "been there, done that" approach. Syracuse has a good starting 4 and 5, but our interior matches up well. Last year they had 3 good 3 PT shooters, they lost Hughes to the NBA and if Buddy(their best) doesn't go(4-11), Girard, So., is their top shooter. Without Buddy in 2 games(3pt 6-24, 5-23). Alan Griffin(3 pts, 8 reb 1st game, 14-6 2nd game for Illinois) can shoot and seems to be their best guard and Kadary Richmond, a Fr., rounds out the lineup, going against our experience at guard. I predict another comfortable win if it is played.
Maybe Rutgers is using the 3 open date games to their advantage. If we win a lot of quality B1G games early, we can fill in with average opponents. If they don't start out strong as they hoped, they can schedule a stronger opponent to add to their resume.
Maybe Rutgers is using the 3 open date games to their advantage. If we win a lot of quality B1G games early, we can fill in with average opponents. If they don't start out strong as they hoped, they can schedule a stronger opponent to add to their resume.
I agree with you, but is wasn’t too long ago, 2017-18 where a bunch of team were at .500 and above and didn’t dance.
kgc is a good poster, no need to respond like that.
They will push the tournament back to May if they have to. They aren’t losing out on the tv revenue again. I highly doubt any of the players will be eligible for whatever vaccine is available by the time March rolls around. Basketball will get through the season in a couple ways
1) As much isolation as possible and players being smart
2) Politically incorrect but true...immunity within teams that get it early. Part of me highly doubts that 1/3 of the football team getting in the summer isn’t helping us now
3) Flexibility with scheduling
In a sport where you really have the next 6 months to have a season and a tournament there is no good reason not to get it done. And a lot of $$$ to say it should
The ranking is just a number. What's a lot more important is getting on the court to playing competitive talent and getting better. The ranking is not going to help them when they have to play Michigan State, Iowa, etc.
Wisconsin just lost to unranked Marquette. Stop assuming the Big Ten schedule is going to save us.
I agree, it makes sense. If some teams can't get OOC games or has OOC games canceled due to Covid the logical thing to do is to base decisions on conference games only.