Syracuse Game in jeopardy?
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If not North Orange, South Orange
Because Ivy League not doing winter sports
Isnt there 1 ACC team not playing the challenge? Maybe swap out Cuse for that team?
St. Peter's, NJIT, Marist, Iona, Fairfield, Drexel, LaSalle, St. Joe's, Delaware, Towson St.?
UCONN is available, it would be an interesting matchup playing Pike’s alma mater.
This is why you try to schedule other quality games! You don't need to do the Seton Hall strategy of playing like four games in four different places in a week, but having exactly ONE high-major non-conference opponent was always a terrible idea. Doing that while also having up to three additional non-conference games (we're allowed seven, we've only got four) just makes it even worse.
One more positive test and round of contact tracing and this game isn't happening.
One more positive test and round of contact tracing and this game isn't happening.
What?
He’s 76 years old and a coaching legend.
WTF does spending the game last night with his mask mean?
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People need to seriously chill with worrying about playing games. This season is not like any other season. You aren’t going to get punished because you only played 3 weak OOC games.
I disagree. The committee is going to look at the data they have with the relative strength of schedules, Quad wins, etc. etc. They'll go through the process just like every other year - because thats what they know how to do it.
Maybe the absolute number of wins doesn't matter this year. But strength of schedule will matter a lot !
That's why I think it'd be a waste of our time to schedule another game like the other 3 we've had. We need a top 100 team or two on the OOC.
I disagree. We appeared to be on solid ground last year and then the last couple of weeks, many projections had us slipping because, although we had a very solid record, everyone became pre-occupied that we only won one road game. We were slipping out of the tournament until we got the win at Purdue. There is no reason we shouldn't be playing a real out-of-conference team.
The past several years, we have seemed to duck challenges - using youth as an excuse and relying on the B1G schedule instead. This year was finally going to be different (with Baylor, etc. - until Covid killed it.). Yes, this is a different year, but let's make the best of it. Who knows how many teams will even make it this year. If they cut it to 32, 11-9 or even 12-8 in the B1G might not even get us there. This is the best team we've had in probably 30 years, we shouldn't settle on 3 out of conference cupcakes only if we can help it. Beating Hofstra does not improve the team for B1G play as much as playing a Baylor will.
What? Of course it matters. What if us and Indiana both finish 10-10 in the Big Ten. You don't think they'll look at their wins against Providence and Stanford (and maybe Florida State or Butler which are still to come) as deciding factors??
People are really making a lot out of this in my opinion than what needs to be made. I will preface this by saying it is amazing how this type of topic is the center of discussion in a few short years compared to the past so glad we are having them. With that said, we play 20 BIG games in a 24 game schedule in arguably the best conference top to bottom where we will face several Top 10 ranked programs and quality games. If we take care of business in the BIG there is no worries about getting in a 64 team tourney. Sure it might decide whether we get a 6-8 seed but cmon now, lets be real we would gladly take any of those seeds in a tourney for a chance to dance.
I strongly agree with this part of your quote bolded.
Our OOC right now is a very easy talking point and factor which the committee could easily become consumed with and use it against us.
The B1G is going to be fierce and tight again this year. One or two wins could separate the third place team from the ninth place team. In this case ,,, then you have to point to additional wins outside the conference to rise your program above all the others in that herd.
Remember like two years ago that Indiana had an awful overall (near .500) and conference record (well below .500). But they had like two impressive non-conference wins early in the season. Those two wins were literally the reason they were on the bubble until the very last day. They finished regular season 17-15 (8-12), lost in the first round of the B1G tournament. I think if they won a game or two in the conf tournament, they were gonna dance.
I am jonesing for another game as much as any one but I think the post season importance is being overstated. Our post season is going to hinge on our success in conference play and not our OOC. The BIG is so good that short of a complete conference collapse, going 500 will result in a nice seed. I doubt that the difference between making the tourney or not ( or even seeding) will come down to a December win of a Drexel or a Towson.
People are making a mistake thinking tournament selection this year will be like any other year.
This year they may take both. It would t shock me if OOC games weren’t even used by the committee this year.
I believe St. Joes had to cancel temple and another Big 5 game as they are on hold.
In this current case. Lets just say we drop the game to Syracuse or don't play it. That means going .500 in the conference results in us being at BEST 3 games over .500.
All things considered .. we need more games to give ourselves some sort of margin of error in conference play.
My guess at this point is that a game won't happen this year or next, but will resume at the Rock for the 22-23 season. SHU doesn't want it at the Rock, but they still want next year's game to be at the Rock.... RU wants to play this year, but wants next year's game to be at the RAC as scheduled. I don't think they're going to get that sorted out for this season or for next season, and the series will resume at the Rock in 2022.
If there are 64 teams in the tourney, as usual, you are subject to the same standards in the end.......because in the end, if your ending record is similar to anothers program, they will look at strength of schedule, and the out of conference games
the example used where Indiana and RU winding up with the same record is a good one.....Indiana would get in the tourney over RU based on out of conference play.
its not like there are more spots available, than last year......the same criteria would come into play, even if it seems like it won't// the committee would be forced to look beyond the conference record to make decisions
That's why it makes sense to play them at FDU this month.
Play at The Rock next season
Doesn’t make sense for Rutgers. They want the home game next year.
Most sense would be two neutral site games this year and next.
I think there will be more spots. NCAA can’t punish teams for taking necessary precautions and reward those for taking risk.
68 teams is not a given this year. Small conference participation is not a given.
I said in another post the concept of scrapping conference tournaments. I think that possibility is real.
You're nuts if you think that's true.