Had tickets for some Pearl jam shows at the end of the month and they were all just postponed. Looking like large gatherings in the US will start to be shut down.
As I've been saying, will be surprised if they allow fans into the games, given that almost every first round location already has at least one case of coronavirus, especially since by next Tuesday we should expect to see 5000+ cases in the US. And at some point, student-athlete safety will trump everything and they might even postpone. And the regionals? Let's see what the NBA/NHL do in LA/NY now that both areas are poised to see steep accelerations in cases - they have 19/14 now and should have 500+, each by the time of the regionals. This sucks balls.I was reading an article in the New York Times that the NCAA is exploring their options. Thankfully cancelling the tournament does not seem to be an option and playing without fans is something they would like to avoid at all costs. It seems like increased "health stations" including providing hand sanitizers and other disinfectants to fans is something they are discussing.
Same here. MSG and Scottsdale.Had tickets for some Pearl jam shows at the end of the month and they were all just postponed. Looking like large gatherings in the US will start to be shut down.
As I've been saying, will be surprised if they allow fans into the games, given that almost every first round location already has at least one case of coronavirus, especially since by next Tuesday we should expect to see 5000+ cases in the US. And at some point, student-athlete safety will trump everything and they might even postpone. And the regionals? Let's see what the NBA/NHL do in LA/NY now that both areas are poised to see steep accelerations in cases - they have 19/14 now and should have 500+, each by the time of the regionals. This sucks balls.
Have you seen what's going on in Italy? It's not paranoia, just simple comparison of where we are vs. where they were and extrapolating a bit.Talk about paranoia. Yikes.
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I have a feeling that if things continue to go in the direction they are going, this is the most likely scenarioPlay the games without fans
hell--there are tons of tournaments now ongoing-why stop now?--exposure is ongoing anyway
hell--there are tons of tournaments now ongoing-why stop now?--exposure is ongoing anyway
Have you seen what's going on in Italy? It's not paranoia, just simple comparison of where we are vs. where they were and extrapolating a bit.
I don't live in Italy. I live in the United States.
We've survived many other flus and viruses in the last decade or so, and this will be no different.
I don't live in Italy. I live in the United States.
We've survived many other flus and viruses in the last decade or so, and this will be no different.
Quite familiar with it, but the shape of the curve depends greatly on inherent transmission rates vs. actual transmission rates post-interventions, so if we do little to nothing the peak is far broader/longer, vs. if we are aggressive in testing/quarantine/social distancing to reduce the transmission rate, which is inherently much greater than the flu. It's precisely because of the greater mortality rate and transmission rate of SARS-CoV-2 that serious actions are required to prevent this being much worse than the flu and I'm confident they will be taken, but am worried about how well we execute those.Look up "Farr's Law" to gain some prospective on how viruses peak and fall. The media fails to mention this because it runs counter to the hype.
Biggest thing we need to do is start testing like crazy, like South Korea did. It's been key to their lower mortality rate (since identiying people early slows the spread and leads to better treatment outcomes and it also leads to a larger denominator, making the mortality rate less) than anywhere else and likely part of why their rate of new cases is starting to decline whille other countries with similar numbers of infections (Italy/Iran) are still seeing accelerations. Unfortunately, our society is pretty reactive so I doubt there's much we can do to slow the panic and the panic/fear is what will eventually lead people to act to reduce transmission rates.Ive seen some doctors on tonight who seemed to indicate we should slow the panic
You will and certainly older people should be very worried with a 15% mortality rate for those over 80 and an 8% mortality rate for those from 70-79 and 3.6% from 60-69 (but only 0.2% for those under 40; data from the Chinese epidemic).I don't know anyone in my circle panicking
I believe insurance companies are changing their policies about covering these shows and its causing the performers to need to cancel as well.Pearl jam also credited to this to the amount of fans that travel to their shows from all over. Did not want to risk anything especially with how this has hit the Seattle area. I don't know what to think now. I was never buying into the hype but when it's effecting things I have done for 20 years( Travel to Pearl jam shows, well not the NCAAs) I guess it hits home.
No fans hurts the local economy, not NCAA.To the best of my knowledge:
TV Rights, $900M/year = fixed and comes in regardless of spectators
Ticket Sales, Concessions, Parking, Merchandise, ~$200-250M/year = variable and only comes in with spectators
TV rights is a bigger number but they get it regardless so it’s irrelevant. Losing 20% of revenue from the other items is what they’ll be weighing.
Tell that to the 25 people that are dead in the US.I don't live in Italy. I live in the United States.
We've survived many other flus and viruses in the last decade or so, and this will be no different.
Tell that to the 25 people that are dead in the US.
Tell that to the 25 people that are dead in the US.
I've read the CDC has reported 18,000 deaths from the flu during the same time period as the Corona virus. We are talking 3 dozen deaths compared to 18,000 in this country. I wish the media stop treating the public like idiots. Just give us the facts and let the public form it's own opinions.I am sure more than that have also died from the flu this week...and yes i know that Corona is worse than the flu so im not repeating a talking point...just sayin
I think everyone understands that and hope that it will abate when flu season is over. We are very close and just need to ride it out a little longer.Point understood, but the unique characteristic of Corona is that at some point the volume of cases could force a shift in focus to go in the direction of quarantining the at risk population (rather than the general population) to try to ride this thing out. Weeks ago that sounded crazy and cruel - (i.e. to quarantine frail elderly and people with severe preexisting medical conditions prone to extreme cases). But if it turns out to be accurate that most Corona cases in healthy adults and kids are either asymptomatic or present as a mild cough, then what they are trying to do by shutting everything down simply won’t to work. They can’t shut schools, subways, etc. down forever. If kids carry this thing and continue to barely get symptoms, it’s going to come down to the frail grandparent population needing to stay away from their families anyway for their own safety. I’m not sure what the answer is, but if it turns out kids are the rampant carriers of this thing, shutting down major events isn’t going to do much to solve things. Life would literally either have to stop for an extended period of time or at some point, this thing may need to just run its course through the general population like the common cold? The problem is that the experts seem to not have any answers about who the biggest spreaders, how long it’s contagious, what might cause individuals outside the high risk population to come down with a severe case, etc. nobody knows anything.
Can they pipe in the crowd noise controlled by a DJ? $$$$Play the games without fans
Can they pipe in the crowd noise controlled by a DJ? $$$$