30-million cases of the "flu" this year in the U.S....nearing 20,000 dead....PLEASE stop the hysteria that's being extrapolated by the press!!!
NCAA and Corona Virus
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This thread may set the record for most bad takes of all time. If you don't understand how this is not the same as seasonal flu then you will very soon, unfortunately.
I yearn for the days of listening to people complain about Peter Kiss not playing.
I yearn for the days of listening to people complain about Peter Kiss not playing.
I have a pre-existing heart condition (almost died from Infective Endocarditis in the summer of 2016) so am very much in one of the 2 "danger" groups (BUT am in very good health otherwise at this time and my body will easily fight it off SO LONG as I take necessary precautioins IF I begin to see any symptoms whatsoever, as it's been, let's say, "doormant" since 7/16) and understand that this is not "the same as seasonal flu," but I simply choose not to buy into the "fear mongering" of the media. Even Cuomo in NY, whom I can't stand, is saying much of the same. Will it likely get worse here, YES, but this "cancel events" **** is ridiculous at this point.
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Great post and as I said above the biggest problem in the US right now is we're not testing through the roof, like South Korea - by not testing, we're flying blind on the incidence of positive cases, which means it's very difficult to slow the spread of the virus.
Also, while the coronavirus is not much of a risk to young people (under 40), relatively speaking (in China, death rates in people 10-39 have been under 0.2%, not far from flu rates, and nobody under 9 has died), this doesn't mean those people shouldn't be taking precautions, like social distancing. The far bigger risk is that by traveling and being in large crowds, healthy/younger people could become infected, either asymptomatically or with mild symptoms (typical) and then become "spreaders" of the virus, risking the health of older people and the elderly (and people with underlying conditions), especially given the alarmingly high death/ICU rates for people over 60 in particular.
insurance companies should pay entertainers NOT to perform scheduled (and insured) performances.
I think the bigger thing is that the NCAA encourages alot of cross regional travel. Even if Cleveland doesnt have any cases right now, it almost certainly will if you start bringing in people from all over the country.
Based on current trends - 2-3 times more people will have the disease in a week than now.
Incidentally, I already see the Y2K style post-virus response shaping up here. We take alot of measures to make sure it isnt that bad. It ends up being not that bad. Then a whole bunch of people say - well why did everyone freak out, it wasnt that bad.
Sure - because the flu is endemic and the coronavirus hasnt gotten there yet. But if we just went about our lives, it would be, quickly (at the rate thing are going it would reach flu level of infection density within 2-3 months.) and we would have a few hundred thousand deaths from it.
Well then this week would be pretty important to stop the spread because carriers who may not be showing symptoms at all are spreading it yet i heard not one mention of cancelling or holding conference tourneys with no fans
Sorry my friend, but you're simply wrong on this. If we took your advice and did nothing, this virus would be significantly worse than the flu, overall, in both total cases and total deaths, as it has a higher transmission rate and a significantly higher mortality rate. That's why governments and people are doing things that may "look" like overreacting given relatively far fewer deaths so far across the world - they've seen the math and they want to prevent a major pandemic.
Now it's a fair question to ask if there is a middle ground between doing nothing and the kind of draconian quarantine China put in place for 56 million people in Hubei (or like Italy now). I personally think there is and South Korea is the example, as they've been testing like crazy (over 160,000 tests so far) and practicing effective social distancing/self-quarantining (so not in full lockdown) and while they have 7500 cases, the case rate is decreasing, plus their mortality rate is much lower than anywhere else (0.7% vs. 2-5% elsewhere), partly because of early identification/treatment and partly because the denominator is likely close to the real denominator, since they're finding mildly symptomatic people others aren't - and in fact the "true" mortality rate is probably close to SK's, but that's impossible to know without a lot more testing in these other countries.
Unfortunately, the US is not taking SK's approach, having completely bungled testing, which continues. It's unconscionable - this lack of testing is putting us at real risk of an Italy-style outbreak, especially in highly densely populated areas like DC to Boston, including NJ/NY, obviously.
Links below to the other thread on the football board, the SK "story" and the Johns Hopkins country/state (in the US) tracker of all cases worldwide.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...7-mortality-rate-1.191275/page-4#post-4437606
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...hundreds-of-thousands-to-fight-virus-outbreak
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Hey, welcome back man! How's things and are you back to posting? I recall you got married had a kid and went underground, probably because we sucked in football and hoops.
Figured you'd "get it" with regard to COVID-19, too. Good post. Lousy winter, too, if you like snow (you got your met degree from RU iirc).
Agreed its insane what they are doing in the media just a travesty
Hey when in doubt, the hysterical left will politicize anything for an advantage
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Also, here's more on the testing debacle in the US, which continues. We continue to be last in the world in testing for the coronavirus on a per capita basis, which is a very bad place to be. See the graphic and story below.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-testing-covid-19-tests-per-capita-chart-us-behind-2020-3
You may not have explicitly said that, but your posts have that tenor. How else should people interpret your posts about media fear-mongering or your comment that "this 'cancel events' **** is ridiculous?"
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Isn’t there a whole other stickied thread? Thought this was about the NCAA and the likely stupid decision they are likely to make (it is the NCAA...stupid is implied)
Exactly what I said above. Given greater transmission rates and mortality rates for the coronavirus, only by aggressive testing and interventions (especially social distancing) can we keep this from becoming far, far worse than what has been seen so far in China and elsewhere. People simply have no clue.
There's a pinned thread on the football board, but not here, and given the likelihood of many people traveling to conference and NCAA tourney games, I think people ought to have a more complete picture of the risks involved to them, especially if they're over 60, and the risks involved if they catch the virus at a large social event and become a spreader of the virus.
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Given all the stupid cancellations that have already happened I’d say some city will (like dumbass Austin, that least Texas of Texas towns calling something with no in-situ cases an emergency.) I could see their idiot mayor losing his **** and closing i35...most Texans would lobby to keep it shut forever!
RU#s. It's an uphill battle. I've seen so many willfully ignorant takes in this thread you just gotta shake your head.
Its fascinating to see the "hurr durr librul media try scare you" responses. And always not a single medical professional among them.
Its fascinating to see the "hurr durr librul media try scare you" responses. And always not a single medical professional among them.
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It is definitely something to take serious and we have lagged behind others...and the media does want you AS SCARED AND PANICKED as possible...both can be absolutely true simultaneously. The media is biased (has been, IS and ALWAYS will be) and they would love nothing more than utter failure because “orange man bad”.
if a democrat was in the WH the right and FNC will be similarly giddy and over reactive. It’s the nature of our fractured and tribalized state of affairs...
my tribe = good, your tribe = bad and evil
sadly, just like this flu, it has contaminated the one happy section of TKR...
5,000+ cases by next Tuesday? We have maybe 750 confirmed cases, to date, and you expect this huge explosion this week? When it happens, you can point to this post and say oh, ye of little faith.
Without more testing there is no way to know the scale of the problem. 750 confirmed cases, but how many people are carrying it right now without knowing?
Idiots on a plane made a flight change to a closer destination because a guy was sneezing. It was his allergies. #hysteria
And a bit of history – an estimated 675,000 Americans died in the flu pandemic of 1918; about 50 million died worldwide. From my perspective we are no better prepared in 2020 than they were 100 years go!
The only way we won't have 5000 cases by next Tuesday is if the US continues its near criminal practice of not testing people, meaning we'll have that many infected or more, but just won't know it.
some posting on here must be the same guys panic buying toilet paper--it never is good to be hysterical or to love to watch train wrecks--get a grip--we know the seriousness --who needs the fear mongering
I know. I've tried to keep my posts purely scientific on the sports boards, but it's hard, seeing the incompetence with which our government has been dealing with this situation (apart from the travel ban from China early on, which likely bought us 3-4 weeks, but which we're now frittering away by not testing), especially with regard to lack of testing, as well as the ridiculous, misleading and inaccurate statements that come out of POTUS's mouth every time he speaks about this.
Anyway, back to the science - really good videos being put out by Dr. John Campbell a health expert/practitioner from the UK - and not just because he's saying almost the exact same things I've been saying, lol, i.e., lack of testing and lack of proactivity by governments almost everywhere, except South Korea - he also sees them as a likely "model" for how to deal with this pandemic.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnsc...reat-panic-of-coronavirus-myths/#6a2936fe2c51
I wonder how much revenue would be lost if they had no spectators for the first two weekends only. Last year's final weekend had 144K spectators and I would guess ticket prices were maybe 4 times more then the average of the first two weekends.
How many hearings did Speaker Pelosi's House hold on coronavirus after the first reports from China in early 2020? Thanks.
Pearl Jam is politicizing it like they do everything. Put temp scanners at security and purell stations in the arenas, at worst you maybe move the spokane regional to a back up site