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Shell21

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guy is a moron..think we should flood his twitter...the fact that he has richmond in the field ahead of us shows this..they have 1 neutral win against Wisconsin and that is literally it. They have no other wins against the projected field. So because they beat NC A&T on the road, that counts more so than beating top 25 teams at home and 7 tourney teams..honestly a joke.
 
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RutgersLarry

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What smug analysis too


Rutgers beat Maryland 78-67: The ultimate home-court hero won again. Rutgers got arguably its best win of the season to move to 18-1 at home. That's good, of course, but it's the 1-10 record away from home that needs fixing. Rutgers fans can be forgiven for assuming that doesn't matter. It's been a long time since they have had to pay any attention to this, but this win over Maryland won't matter at all if the Scarlet Knights finish 1-12 away from home. Maybe not even if they finish 2-11. Three wins away from home has been the minimum standard for the committee for 26 seasons. It is the most reliable indicator for at-large selection in all that time. Rutgers may change that, but not for just one win. They need at least two, and even then, this still looks the profile of a team that is well suited to be a top seed in the NIT.

Multiple ranked wins by double digits NIT, screw you!
 
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Local Shill

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Clown doesn't grasp that not all road wins are created equal. So if Rutgers wins at Purdue and then wins a B1G tournament game, he still thinks they're an NIT team. What an asshat.
 
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Shell21

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Just tweeted this at him in his rutgers tweet discussion..

jerry, the fact that you have richmond, who has 1 nuetral win over Wisconsin as their only win over a tourney team and rutgers out when they have 7, plus wins over top ten teams is a joke. Who has Richmond beaten on the road that makes their resume better than Rutgers? A joke
 
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The histocial road win analysis is flawed; as it implies that there are numerous teams which have been excluded from the tournament due to a failure to secure enough road wins. The practical reality is most likely that teams which do not win at least 3 road/neutral games in turn do not win enough home games to be considered for the tournamnet. It took a historic home win total from Rutgers to be in the conversation. I doubt that many teams over the years have accomplished a similar feat.
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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RutgersLarry said:
What smug analysis too


Rutgers beat Maryland 78-67: The ultimate home-court hero won again. Rutgers got arguably its best win of the season to move to 18-1 at home. That's good, of course, but it's the 1-10 record away from home that needs fixing. Rutgers fans can be forgiven for assuming that doesn't matter. It's been a long time since they have had to pay any attention to this, but this win over Maryland won't matter at all if the Scarlet Knights finish 1-12 away from home. Maybe not even if they finish 2-11. Three wins away from home has been the minimum standard for the committee for 26 seasons. It is the most reliable indicator for at-large selection in all that time. Rutgers may change that, but not for just one win. They need at least two, and even then, this still looks the profile of a team that is well suited to be a top seed in the NIT.

Multiple ranked wins by double digits NIT, screw you!
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has 3 wins been a minimum ACTUAL criteria for the committee OR is it just the case that usually teams with a resume like us or below us pick up some more road wins? I think it's the latter. It's one criteria point. If Palm is saying this is a criteria we should in turn ask, how many teams have won 17 home games in the regular season and NOT made the tourney. I'll save you time, the answer is ZERO
 
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Shell21

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honestly, look at Richmonds road wins..if we played Hampton and Old Dominion on the road, and had 3 road wins, would be any different of a team...? i guess next year, we should just schedule quad 3 and 4 road games to just win a few to say we've won 3 road games according to jerry....
 
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Terry_2426

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It's so weird how dead set he is on the 3 road/neutral win thing. It's not that you need 3 wins away from home to make it to the tournament, it's that historically teams needed 3 wins away from home to have a strong enough resume. Saying 2 wins away from home with this resume wouldn't be enough is crazy. It's like faulting a kid taking 21 credits for getting a B while a kid with 15 credits got all A's.
 
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Shell21

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cincy's resume is a joke, thats how big a clown palm is...This is who they have lost to, and they also play in the great AAC .

Bowling Green (neutral)
Colgate (AT HOME!!!)
AT Tulane who is 12-17 and in last place in AAC
vs UCF (AT HOME!! UCF is 5-11 and 14-14 overall)

so because they beat temple, east carolina, usf (barely) and Wichita (good win) on the road, that means more than losing to these teams above..honestly, a joke that they are ahead of us, and even close to us in his rankings
 
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NY AGENTMAN

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RutgersLarry said:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/

So let me get this straight.. Indiana has 1 more road win (over nebraska like us and a mediocre minnesota team we didn't get a chance to play on the road) yet with a worse record, net, and conf record are a 9 seed?? Since when does 1 extra road win carry the clout of 10+ spots!
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Rutgers is in. If they lose both games remain8ing they will be in the 11 seed play in game. Win either Purdue or first round Tourney game and they will be 10 seed. This is it in a nutshell.
 
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JonathanAlan

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The flaw in the road win analysis is that this year the Big Ten is by far the best and toughest conference in college basketball. With 8 teams currently ranked in the top 25 and others like Rutgers and Illinois on the fringe , the Rutgers road record is less important. Compound that with an expected 20 game schedule , it's a gauntlet for any Big Ten team. Rutgers deserves to be in it .....
 
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S_Janowski

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How many home wins did those 3 road win teams have? I’m sure less than 18.

Also this moron fails to give credit to all of the very close road games Rutgers has had against Quad 1 teams.
 
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Scarlet Shack

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Since he is on historical diatribe ...Please ask him to name another team that has been left out of the tournament that checks all of these boxes

-.500 in a power conference
-seven wins again the projected field
-16 games against the projected field
-almost every loss against the projected field was single digits
 
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MV9000

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Palms a moron. Luckily he’s just a media trumpet and not a on the board deciding this.
 
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kyk1827 said:
has 3 wins been a minimum ACTUAL criteria for the committee OR is it just the case that usually teams with a resume like us or below us pick up some more road wins? I think it's the latter. It's one criteria point. If Palm is saying this is a criteria we should in turn ask, how many teams have won 17 home games in the regular season and NOT made the tourney. I'll save you time, the answer is ZERO
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Excellent analysis kyk1827!
 
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Rutgers25

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He lacks critical thinking skills. He’s latched onto the 3 win thing without analysis of whether those teams were flawed in some other way. He’s making no attempt to analyze if our profile is somehow different than those bubble teams of year’s past.
 
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JayRU09

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It makes no sense that if we traded the Maryland and Seton Hall wins for St. Bonaventure and Pitt wins that we would be more likely to make the tournament in that scenario.

No one has really had a resume like us, prior stances don't really apply here.
 
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RutgersLarry said:
What smug analysis too


Rutgers beat Maryland 78-67: The ultimate home-court hero won again. Rutgers got arguably its best win of the season to move to 18-1 at home. That's good, of course, but it's the 1-10 record away from home that needs fixing. Rutgers fans can be forgiven for assuming that doesn't matter. It's been a long time since they have had to pay any attention to this, but this win over Maryland won't matter at all if the Scarlet Knights finish 1-12 away from home. Maybe not even if they finish 2-11. Three wins away from home has been the minimum standard for the committee for 26 seasons. It is the most reliable indicator for at-large selection in all that time. Rutgers may change that, but not for just one win. They need at least two, and even then, this still looks the profile of a team that is well suited to be a top seed in the NIT.

Multiple ranked wins by double digits NIT, screw you!
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he is full of ****, he is actually arguing that RU needs to win 2 more games...first of all a win at Purdue would give RU 5 Q1 wins, put us at 11-9 in the Big 10, likely 7th place, RU would be 19-11 with a NET in the 20s.
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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Rutgers25 said:
He lacks critical thinking skills. He’s latched onto the 3 win thing without analysis of whether those teams were flawed in some other way. He’s making no attempt to analyze if our profile is somehow different than those bubble teams of year’s past.
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he's acting autistic. I'm sorry if that offends anyone.
 
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