RUTGERS-MARYLAND GAME THREAD

[Pancho1939_rivals]

We just lost to the #9 team in the country by 5 with multiple chances to win and all we talk about is our players suck and our coach gets out coached... again our players are in the middle of the best Rutgers season in 50 years with a ncaa berth in the line and you guys all b*tch and complain and put this team down...

the truth is guys like the people on this board don’t deserve this team

 

[koleszar]

Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, Maryland, I feel like I saw the same game 4 times. Hung around but can’t make the plays at the end

That's because you did.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

I’m sick. Pikiell calls a timeout as an injured player is supposed to head to the free throw line for a 1 and 1 opportunity only to not call a timeout down 1 with 50 secs left, etc

There was no timeout there.. only after the 1st shot which he made. Maryland had an opportunity to replace the injured player and everyone on that team hits FTs.

 

[DHajekRC84]

No obviously out of the timeout he didn't tell them to go for 2 that is bad coaching and he should have called a timeout when Caleb forced the drive the first time

Same guy that burned 2 timeouts Sat in a matter of 1 min. End game. The last 1 with 7 seconds on the clock in a 1 possession with w 2 mins to go to call a play for young to drive who got stuffed.
No problem with young getting stuffed but you know your last TO on that? And gave nothing left when you have the ball 12 seconds down 3. And panic and nobody will shoot and we try to get Miles a shot.

 

[RU Mike73]

Pike f*cked this up no doubt about it and nearly coached his worst game to an road upset over a top 10 team.

Horrendous coaching.

BS and KYK you’re”like” too.
**** y’all.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

None of the people criticizing Pike or the players for blowing it thought we had a chance in this game. Miserable people.

If Schiano falls one game short of getting us to a bowl game next year or two they will call him out as well.

 

[fluoxetine]

We just lost to the #9 team in the country by 5 with multiple chances to win and all we talk about is our players suck and our coach gets out coached... again our players are in the middle of the best Rutgers season in 50 years with a ncaa berth in the line and you guys all b*tch and complain and put this team down...

the truth is guys like the people on this board don’t deserve this team

Did you see what they did with those multiple chances to win?

Obviously they don't suck in general, but they have just absolutely thrown away like 15 straight possessions down the stretch of two games they could have won.

I don't understand people saying we were outcoached as once again we played some pretty ******* great defense and the elite defense is pretty much all about the coach.

But we seriously need to get our ******* **** together down the stretch of these games.

 

[fluoxetine]

None of the people criticizing Pike or the players for blowing it thought we had a chance in this game. Miserable people.

Meh I said I thought we had a reasonable chance to win this game even though I obviously didn't expect we would.

 

[JQRU91]

you are insane. We have ZERO FTs until halfway through teh 2nd half.

what purpose could there be in posting an obvious lie? did you really believe that?

No, I saw the free throw stats halfway through the second half. We a few more than Maryland did.

 

[anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy]

Maryland played horrific because we made them play horrific.

Youre right we made them miss all those 3’s

 

[fluoxetine]

Honorable mention to Jacob Young as well, drunk driving himself to zero points in this game, well done sir.

 

[ImBadRU]

Dont give up on this team. That's ridiculous.

 

[fluoxetine]

Youre right we made them miss all those 3’s

https://kenpom.com/blog/one-last-post-on-3p-defense/

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

At some point when you can't win or finish 1 damn game away from the RAC you have
To be concerned about game day coaching or ability to get your team focused on what you need to do to play.
Not under control or mature, young team of not.
Other teams seem to know what they gave to do yo execute. Rutgers panics. Which if they hadn't been 7 and 3 and 15 and 5 I would get.
How does Harper, Johnson, and Baker all just disappear of late?

Oh that's right. Geo's tired for having played so much... /s

really? I could have sworn we haven’t lost at home. Maybe I missed it. Can you name the teams who came to the RAC and executed late to win?

 

[RutgersChow]

This is pikes “close game dont dare shoot it with more than 5 on the shot clock”

If we had Sellers instead of Harper and an average Big 10 player getting the minutes Geo gets maybe we win. Yeah, Harper is better than Sellers and Geo is a better than average PG in the Big 10 - both pretty funny.

 

[DHajekRC84]

Wrong - not coaching. It is on the players.

Oh, ok cool. Lets hire a guy for a couple hundred grand and get a couple million back.,
Yeah, players execute. But coaches plan, position, strategize, and DEMAND execution. Its not a wing it strategy. ( Or is it? )

A couple of times I get it. Players didn't listen or just f upd.
But a pattern is obvious and that belongs to the coach.
We beet Minny but lost a huge lead 2 half.
We needed a 1.2 second prayer to beat last place Nebby..both at home.
Remember last season fade? You feeling real good about our play right now last 5 of 7 games?

 

[fluoxetine]

Oh, ok cool. Lets hire a guy for a couple hundred grand and get a couple million back.,
Yeah, players execute. But coaches plan, position, strategize, and DEMAND execution. Its not a wing it strategy. ( Or is it? )

A couple of times I get it. Players didn't listen or just f upd.
But a pattern is obvious and that belongs to the coach.
We beet Minny but lost a huge lead 2 half.
We needed a 1.2 second prayer to beat last place Nebby..both at home.
Remember last season fade? You feeling real good about our play right now last 5 of 7 games?

The thing is, the team is better than the players.

The difference is the coach.

 

[fluoxetine]

Do you think we play elite defense because we have elite defensive talent?

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

He gets credit for the D (except for Saturday) and for the shot-lived ranking and building this program. Those are huge. The pathetic offense is also on him.

 

[DHajekRC84]

really? I could have sworn we haven’t lost at home. Maybe I missed it. Can you name the teams who came to the RAC and executed late to win?

Well number 1 " PANCHO " I SAID AWAY from RAC in my very first sentence.
#2. If you want to compare the first 13 to the last 2 be my guest. Cause the gams vs. Nebby and that comeback by Minny should be of concern.

 

[fluoxetine]

He gets credit for the D (except for Saturday) and for the shot-lived ranking and building this program. Those are huge. The pathetic offense is also on him.

The D on Saturday was top 25 level!

 

[RUDiddy777]

I dont think I’ll ever understand our fans.

 

[DHajekRC84]

The thing is, the team is better than the players.

The difference is the coach.

If you are saying pike is responsible for making the whole better than the parts...ABSOLUTELY. He gets all the credit for where they are.
Does that mean he doesn't have his own opportunities to be better or missed opportunities to coach better ? He does.
I'm rooting for him but I see some issues that need to be fixed. That's my opinion and frustration.

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

Oh, ok cool. Lets hire a guy for a couple hundred grand and get a couple million back.,
Yeah, players execute. But coaches plan, position, strategize, and DEMAND execution. Its not a wing it strategy. ( Or is it? )

A couple of times I get it. Players didn't listen or just f upd.
But a pattern is obvious and that belongs to the coach.
We beet Minny but lost a huge lead 2 half.
We needed a 1.2 second prayer to beat last place Nebby..both at home.
Remember last season fade? You feeling real good about our play right now last 5 of 7 games?

This is the best team Rutgers has had since the final four team, they are in the best basketball conference in country, and they are a bunch of sophomores... coaching is obviously the problem.

matter reading these posts you would think we were Michigan state losing these games

 

[leftoright]

Well played game. RU famous for defense around the country. Bring on NCAAs

 

[Pils86]

It was a damn close game and I am proud of the player's efforts. If something as little as Mulcahy's 3 goes in instead of rimming out we probably win this game. Hopefully these losses toughen us up for tournament play on neutral courts with (hopefully) neutral officiating.

 

[fluoxetine]

If you are saying pike is responsible for making the whole better than the parts...ABSOLUTELY. He gets all the credit for where they are.
Does that mean he doesn't have his own opportunities to be better or missed opportunities to coach better ? He does.
I'm rooting for him but I see some issues that need to be fixed. That's my opinion and frustration.

I'm not saying he's perfect. It just seems like a lot of people are saying he's bad, which is insane to me. He is fantastic on defense and, in my opinion, probably average on offense.

I don't think it makes sense to blame whatever the **** it was we watched in the last four minutes on Pike, because I assume his instructions were not "throw it out of bounds like an idiot, jack up a bad three, and then wait 17 seconds before fouling for some reason"

The endgame panic is all on the players IMO.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

No, I saw the free throw stats halfway through the second half. We a few more than Maryland did.

You are correct (I was wrong)... but it was not until the 6:43 left mark where we each had 4 FTAs... and still we were called for a lot more fouls.. 20-10 and we shot no FTs late in the game even though they hammered us a few times on drives to the hoop..

1st half MD 2/3 FTs

2nd half..

MD made FT
RU 1/2 FT
RU 1/2 FT.. that ties FTAs.. 6:43 left
RU 1 FT
RU 1 FT
this is the 4:23 mark that's all 6 FTs for us and MD has 4

they get another 11 FTs over the next 4 minutes.. only 2 of which were intentional fouls

 

[RUJMM78]

The head coach ultimately has to take the blame for the loss.The problem however is that Pikiell has a squad full of complementary type players that don't excel in crunch time.The fact that McConnell took the last 3 shots of the game is a telling indicator that nobody wants the ball at crunch time.Better recruiting is a absolute must and it better show up next season.

 

[DHajekRC84]

This is the best team Rutgers has had since the final four team, they are in the best basketball conference in country, and they are a bunch of sophomores... coaching is obviously the problem.

matter reading these posts you would think we were Michigan state losing these games

Geo Baker is a junior. Yabolah is a grad transfer. Young is in his 4th year. Miles his 3rd. .

This is about making the tourney and not choking it away. Ending the 29 year drought. AND proving to recruits that you can come to Rutgers AND WIN And make the tourney and not have to transfer away to get there.
Its a HUGE opportunity to change the whole damn perspective on Rutgers.
Trust me. If we don't finish this the whole vibe Rutgers created will fade away as fast as it built.
Media is just waiting to run with thus. But they won't waste any time if it doesn't happen.

 

[fluoxetine]

Literally our worst adjusted offensive efficiency of the entire season.

Choked it away.

 

[DHajekRC84]

The head coach ultimately has to take the blame for the loss.The problem however is that Pikiell has a squad full of complementary type players that don't excel in crunch time.The fact that McConnell took the last 3 shots of the game is a telling indicator that nobody wants the ball at crunch time.Better recruiting is a absolute must and it better show up next season.

And this perplexed me. 2 guys who are showing the onions last few games are Tez and Bola.
How are they not the focus and options?

 

[fluoxetine]

The defense we played today would be #1 in the country... by NINE points per 100 possessions, if sustained..

And we LOST.

 

[JQRU91]

You are correct (I was wrong)... but it was not until the 6:43 left mark where we each had 4 FTAs... and still we were called for a lot more fouls.. 20-10 and we shot no FTs late in the game even though they hammered us a few times on drives to the hoop..

1st half MD 2/3 FTs

2nd half..

MD made FT
RU 1/2 FT
RU 1/2 FT.. that ties FTAs.. 6:43 left
RU 1 FT
RU 1 FT
this is the 4:23 mark that's all 6 FTs for us and MD has 4

they get another 11 FTs over the next 4 minutes.. only 2 of which were intentional fouls

Yeah, I knew it was something like that. When we were ahead on free throws I thought about mentioning it in a post but then decided not to.

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

Well number 1 " PANCHO " I SAID AWAY from RAC in my very first sentence.
#2. If you want to compare the first 13 to the last 2 be my guest. Cause the gams vs. Nebby and that comeback by Minny should be of concern.

THAT IS MY POINT. Other teams come to the RAC and do the same sh*t we did today...

Basketball is a game of runs. We were down 8 today but got back to tie, same thing against Iowa... a win is a win and a lose is a lose. Nebraska and Minnesota at home we almost blew it but Iowa and Maryland we fought back.

 

[kcg88]

The defense we played today would be #1 in the country... by NINE points per 100 possessions, if sustained..

And we LOST.

The Illinois and Maryland road games were total giveaways. At least Iowa and Michigan made some plays to beat us.

 

[RUsince52]

Part of the problem for fans is the fact we got good too soon. Most thought if we could make the Dance or NIT, it would be a successful year. But all of a sudden we find ourselves near the top of the standings with 7 wins. (RAC wins be it). However, the road losses were winnable games with some execution and that's what is disconcerting. We don't have a clue how to close out on the road. We make far too many mistakes at the wrong time, all different types too. Maybe the coaches can't be on the court, but it's hard to tell who is at fault.
We've exceeded some expectations too soon, but can't win games within our reach. We only seem to win when the other team folds enough and that doesn't happen on the road.
When we can't make baskets on easy shots, it leads to losses. That seems to be the type team we are, defense or not. Just hard to believe nobody steps up once in a while and players go into hiding.
At least the excitement is back, but we could be beyond that point and the feel good story of the year.

 

[TheB1GTerp]

Did you see what they did with those multiple chances to win?

Obviously they don't suck in general, but they have just absolutely thrown away like 15 straight possessions down the stretch of two games they could have won.

I don't understand people saying we were outcoached as once again we played some pretty ****ing great defense and the elite defense is pretty much all about the coach.

But we seriously need to get our ****ing **** together down the stretch of these games.

You're ridiculous...Pikel out manned coached a good game and had his guys grinding defense. Maryland is one of top defensive teams in country as well. They are ranked #9 for a reason, it was a tied game with 2 minutes and you're blaming your coach for his mistakes but not praising him for everything else.

I know we're tough on Turgeon, but my God man.

Maryland had plenty of points to put the game away and Pikel kept RU hanging in there. I know you want a win, but he kept game competitive on the road where better teams have lost too.

 

[Pancho1939_rivals]

Geo Baker is a junior. Yabolah is a grad transfer. Young is in his 4th year. Miles his 3rd. .

This is about making the tourney and not choking it away. Ending the 29 year drought. AND proving to recruits that you can come to Rutgers AND WIN And make the tourney and not have to transfer away to get there.
Its a HUGE opportunity to change the whole damn perspective on Rutgers.
Trust me. If we don't finish this the whole vibe Rutgers created will fade away as fast as it built.
Media is just waiting to run with thus. But they won't waste any time if it doesn't happen.

To to confirm we have a bunch of sophomores, 1 junior and a senior. So two upperclassman. This is along term deal. This lose did not knock us out of tournament. In fact it gives us credibility that we can play with top 10 teams...

Maryland - 2-3 on the road with losses to unranked penn state(at the time), ranked Iowa and unranked Wisconsin. Wins against unranked Indiana and unranked northwestern.

Michigan state - 2-3 on the road with losses to unranked Purdue, unranked Indiana and unranked Wisconsin. Wins were unranked Minnesota and unranked northwestern.

illinois- 3-3 on the road. Losses to ranked Maryland, ranked Iowa and ranked Michigan state. Wins against unranked Wisconsin, unranked Purdue and unranked Michigan.

Rutgers- 1-4 losses to ranked Michigan state, unranked illinois(at the time), ranked Iowa, ranked Maryland and unranked Michigan. Win over Nebraska.


So the top three teams in the conference only have 7 road wins combined. ALL 7 ARE AGAINST UNRANKED TEAMS!!! We have only played 2 unranked team on the road for Christ sake and Michigan state has yet to play any ranked teams in the road!!!!! We are one Michigan loss away from being tied with the two best teams in the league in the road..

hopefully this puts our road woes into perspective.

 

[fluoxetine]

Did you see what they did with those multiple chances to win?

Obviously they don't suck in general, but they have just absolutely thrown away like 15 straight possessions down the stretch of two games they could have won.

I don't understand people saying we were outcoached as once again we played some pretty ****ing great defense and the elite defense is pretty much all about the coach.

But we seriously need to get our ****ing **** together down the stretch of these games.

You're ridiculous...Pikel out manned coached a good game and had his guys grinding defense. Maryland is one of top defensive teams in country as well. They are ranked #9 for a reason, it was a tied game with 2 minutes and you're blaming your coach for his mistakes but not praising him for everything else.

I know we're tough on Turgeon, but my God man.

Maryland had plenty of points to put the game away and Pikel kept RU hanging in there. I know you want a win, but he kept game competitive on the road where better teams have lost too.

I'm confused.. I'm explicitly not blaming the coach. I'm saying the players panicked at the very end which led to them throwing away a very winnable game.