OC Sean gleeson (close)
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Raytheon is the largest defense aerospace company by revenue now after all of their acquisitions and mergers and having eclipsed Lock Mart. It is not the largest aerospace company.
The new SATs are easier than the old ones. But yes, that's what it means. A quarter of the accepted students had an 800 on their math. That doesn't mean that all those students enrolled. It just means a lot of smart students applied. Rutgers pharmacy is extremely hard to get into. It's like getting into an ivy.
Engineering seems to really improved the quality of their students at well
That was never true according to my friend who would know, as he's friends with Google's founders (they were at Stanford for grad school together, where my friend was getting his MBA with a major focus on financial hedge fund style algrorithms, so he got to know Page/Brin from compsci classes they had). In fact the opposite was true as Page, especially, hated that kind of snobbery. And it's still not true - we have a couple of friends whose kids got RU degrees and are at Google now. Also, RU's computer science department has always been rated in the top 25-50 and has been a bit on the upswing over the last 10 years.
EH, what do they really know. More Speculation.:CHOP:
My son, currently a senior at RU, just got offered a job at Lockheed Martin. The person that offered him the job has a daughter at Rutgers and he hired a girl from Rutgers last year. He told my son we need some more Scarlet Knights down here.
Despite the smileys, I still need to correct you, since some might take you seriously. Having been at Merck for 30+ years after getting my BS/MS/PhD in chem eng'g at RU, I think I'm a little more qualified to opine on this topic than you are. If you actually knew anything about chem eng'g in Pharma you'd know what I said is true.
Up until about the late 80s, Merck was the only major Pharma company where late stage chemical process R&D was run by chem E's and not chemists (we work closely with the synthetic chemists, but the engineers "own" the late development). This was mostly due to Merck's rich history of chem eng'g breakthroughs and accomplishments, going all the way back to penicillin and streptomycin and continuing through the total synthesis and manufacturing development of cortisone, followed by the stunning process development accomplishments of chem E's on the beta-lactam antibiotic imipenem in the mid/late 80s (when I joined), resulting in a synthesis based on so many trade secrets that Merck still manufactures most of the imipenem for the market, as generic companies have never really been able to figure out how to make the product in high enough quality for the market.
Then, during the 90s and into the 2000s, a number of Merck-Chem E alums went to companies like Lilly, BMS, Abbott, Celgene, J&J, etc., either founding chem eng'g departments or at least establishing strong chem eng'g sections within larger process R&D groups, modeling much of their efforts on how we did development and scale up at Merck. Merck is no longer "way ahead" of these other companies from a chem eng'g perspective, since these folks who left were all quite talented and have built their own strong organizations, but Merck still has the largest and most respected chem eng'g group in Pharma, as confirmed by a recent McKinsey benchmarking assessment (proprietary). I even got to hear that directly from quite a few of these former Merck folks at my retirement party, as about 20 or so ex-Merck folks (including several exec directors/VPs) came, partly because of our friendship and partly just to catch up with old colleagues who stayed at Merck.
Where do you come up with this stuff?
From what I take of this thread.
Gleeson is going to Lockheed Martin,Raytheon , Merck or Google and if he does come to RU it will be RU's computer science department where he lands.
Seems his SAT makes him a bad fit to be the RU OC.
Gleeson is going to Lockheed Martin,Raytheon , Merck or Google and if he does come to RU it will be RU's computer science department where he lands.
Seems his SAT makes him a bad fit to be the RU OC.
Didn't read much of your post, too long and mostly irrelevant. You actually have little experience to comment this topic, since you only have 1 data point. You only have experience at 1 company and have no idea about anywhere else. You drank the Merck Kool-Aid and stuck with the Penn State of the pharma industry. Merck is responsible for the biggest scandal in history and tarnished the industry more than any other company (Vioxx). Also, it has the lowest comp structure of any large pharma (HR benchmark data).
Can't troll weather threads, but Merck posts are fair game!
I've been on enough campus visits the last year to know Google takes from a lot of schools. Drexel & NJIT also brag about their one grad they got into Google.
Didn't read much of your post, too long and mostly irrelevant. You actually have little experience to comment this topic, since you only have 1 data point. You only have experience at 1 company and have no idea about anywhere else. You drank the Merck Kool-Aid and stuck with the Penn State of the pharma industry. Merck is responsible for the biggest scandal in history and tarnished the industry more than any other company (Vioxx). Also, it has the lowest comp structure of any large pharma (HR benchmark data).
Can't troll weather threads, but Merck posts are fair game!
Well, if you had read my post, you'd know that I have friends/colleagues who used to work at Merck who are leading chem eng'g dept's/groups at about 5 other Pharma companies, so I get to hear a ton of intel on how that's been going and all of them still say that Merck's chem E department is the gold standard in Pharma, which is absolutely true - which is why they keep cherry-picking our talent, which is actually ok, as we're large enough and have enough new talent to replace them.
And your only comeback was about Vioxx, which has nothing to do with the topic at hand (chem eng'g groups in Pharma) and comp structure, which you're simply wrong on (we're in the middle). But I know why you won't stick to the topic - it's because you know you have far less knowledge about the topic than I do, so you try to obfuscate/deflect, but that doesn't work. You should actually be proud that RU chem E's have done so well at the pre-eminent chem E group in Pharma, but you still don't quite know how to control your trolling urges.
RU Computer Science 16' here
I know tons of classmates with jobs at Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, Amazon, SalesForce, Verizon, Microsoft....
I can keep going.
I know tons of classmates with jobs at Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, Amazon, SalesForce, Verizon, Microsoft....
I can keep going.
Pay a visit to the CE board, where he's the king of parroting Trump's daily fake news Twitter dumps. It makes his posts on this board seem almost erudite by comparison.
Do you know a Revan Sopher? He's at Google after getting his compsci degree (I think - might've been electrical eng'g) in 2016, iirc. He's classmates with our son (they live 3 houses down from us).
Why is it hard to believe that 6 years into the Big Ten era, our admissions profile is similar to our peers in the conference?
https://www.thoughtco.com/sat-scores-for-admission-to-the-big-ten-788620
Very proud of RU ChemE's. RU CoE is the foundation of my career success, definitely more than my RU MBA (learned plenty about business and commercial ops, but my core skills are all based on engineering).
I just wish my fellow RU ChemE's would bring their talents to a better company.
FYI, comp is not even close to "the middle". I know the numbers.
You don't think I know the numbers, at least for what I do? Seriously? I always kept up to date on that stuff and have already had a couple of unsolicited offers since I retired. There's no way to say this without sounding arrogant, but people across Pharma would kill for someone with my skills/experience at Merck.Very proud of RU ChemE's. RU CoE is the foundation of my career success, definitely more than my RU MBA (learned plenty about business and commercial ops, but my core skills are all based on engineering).
I just wish my fellow RU ChemE's would bring their talents to a better company.
FYI, comp is not even close to "the middle". I know the numbers.
Merck is firmly in the middle, financially, and the camaraderie we had, along with the location, job security and ability to build a career without having to move, all combined to keep me there rather than moving for more $$.
Also, do you think I'd be retiring at 57 with a wife who has been an at-home mom the whole time if I wasn't paid pretty decently? C'mon, I know you're actually smarter than that.
All pharma comp is decent. Hell, much better than decent. Most industries would love to have our margins and comp benefits. I'm just saying Merck's comp is low compared to other large pharma companies. I had a Merck offer 5 years ago and spoke to the same hiring manager (we are now friends) about my recent move. Merck was a full employee band lower on comp. They would have had to max out an Associate VP band to match the ED offer I eventually accepted.
At least on the commercial side, they are super low.
But I will repeat, even "low" in the pharma industry still beats 95% of other industries! Our industry is awesome.
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I am so confused. Gleeson is trying to get a job as a Chemical Engineer for Merck but they don't pay enough for him to go there? Google won't hire him because the SAT score he put on his resume can't be correct because it seems to high? Wall Street doesn't know he exists but would like Jalen Berger to work in the back office but not the front?
I am correct in all of this????????
I am correct in all of this????????
His comment that RU "dodged a bullet" when talks with GS broke down is another gem...someone calculated at one point he had over 140 posts in 24 hours.
So you want to talk about Gleeson? Start a Rutgers SAT score requirements thread and we'll load the thread up with Gleeson posts.