OT: New Jersey Devils '17-18 thread.......

theRU

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Haven't watched the devil's much this year...they look terrible today
 

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Haven't watched the devil's much this year...they look terrible today
2nd night of a back to back on the road. They've beaten Nashville, Vegas and LA Kings so far on the road- three good playoff teams. They're only down 2-1, plenty of time left.
Definitely a little sluggish in the first, some fatigue I suppose.
 
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2nd night of a back to back on the road. They've beaten Nashville, Vegas and LA Kings so far on the road- three good playoff teams. They're only down 2-1, plenty of time left.
Definitely a little sluggish in the first, some fatigue I suppose.
Very sloppy.. luck to be down 1. Of course I posted in hopes of the SN JINX working again.
 

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Tonight may be the nail in the coffin on this season.

Brutal brutal performance.
Was about to tell you to have faith, but just looked at the schedule again. Tough rest of the way, against mostly playoff teams.

But, have faith my man. Devils have played the tough teams well.
 
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HUH? To the season part of your comment. Should we ask Yogi if it is over? Or maybe John Belushi ?

No, it's not over but the road is now very difficult. The surrounding teams have much easier schedules than the Devils do.

Columbus and Florida have been scorching hot in March and the Devils have been treading water since 2018 began. They may need to win 6 of remaining 9 to make playoffs -- and the next two games are at Pitt and v. Tampa. At least 6 of the final 9 are at home.
 
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No, it's not over but the road is now very difficult. The surrounding teams have much easier schedules than the Devils do.

Columbus and Florida have been scorching hot in March and the Devils have been treading water since 2018 began. They may need to win 6 of remaining 9 to make playoffs -- and the next two games are at Pitt and v. Tampa. At least 6 of the final 9 are at home.
My wife , son and I have our tickets for Saturday and can't wait !!!!!
 
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Because the best they would have ended up with is someone like Mrazek, like Philly got.

Also, at the trade deadline they would have certainly believed that Schneider would come back healthy and effective.

What happened to him?
Something mental I presume.

I attended a game in December and he was phenomenal in a win.
 

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Well if they make the playoffs.....hope they match up with Pittsburgh.

Big win tonight. Whether or not they make it...fun to play meaningful hockey this late into season.
 
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I like this team a lot. They have a lot of heart and play well against the good teams. I think they will get in and surprise people with a good run.

Take a ride back in time with me, the first time they ever made the playoffs, Johnny Mac scored in OT to squeak into the post season, and they just kept winning to get to the conference finals (I was like, 8, so it’s a little foggy). Then when they won their first cup, shortened season, they also weren’t a very high seed heading into the playoffs, but got hot and destroyed everyone, including sweeping the favored Red Wings in the finals.

Those teams were special. This team reminds me of those teams. If not this year, then soon.

Devils vs everyone.
 

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Big win again tonight. Could have let it get away but the Devils kept coming back. Looked like a Playoff atmosphere at the rock for the go ahead goal with a minute and a half left.

They’re all big ones from here on out.
Hall put the team on his back last night. The defense seemed undisciplined at times - I think a better team than Carolina would have scored 2 or 3 more.
 

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No, it's not over but the road is now very difficult. The surrounding teams have much easier schedules than the Devils do.

Columbus and Florida have been scorching hot in March and the Devils have been treading water since 2018 began. They may need to win 6 of remaining 9 to make playoffs -- and the next two games are at Pitt and v. Tampa. At least 6 of the final 9 are at home.

3 down .
 
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While I try not to be the "moral victory" guy often, I find this season to be a huge success no matter the results the rest of the season. Especially considering the issues with Schneider. I really love the way Shero has rebuilt this roster through the draft, the Hall trade, and subtle value moves (trading Jagr and Stempniak for 2nd round picks!)
 

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If the Devs and Flyers finish tied in points do the Devs get the tiebreaker based upon wins?
 
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I still think there is only about a 50% chance the Devils make the playoffs.

6 games left but the play of Columbus and Florida is amazing.

Columbus is 9-1-1 in the last 10 and Florida is 7-3-0 in their last 10

The Devils have played some ugly games this year and they have still found ways to win

You do not want to miss the playoffs for 6 years in a row
 

JMORC2003

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I still think there is only about a 50% chance the Devils make the playoffs.

6 games left but the play of Columbus and Florida is amazing.

Columbus is 9-1-1 in the last 10 and Florida is 7-3-0 in their last 10

The Devils have played some ugly games this year and they have still found ways to win

You do not want to miss the playoffs for 6 years in a row

Why, what happens? Rangers fans start talking about the team moving to Nashville, again??? :joy:
 

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I think the tiebreaker is ROW (regulation/overtime wins) which is so stupid. Devils have 2 more wins than Philly with a game in hand but are 2 points back because Philly has a ton of loser points.
I agree. I hate the way the NHL does its standings.
 

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I still think there is only about a 50% chance the Devils make the playoffs.

6 games left but the play of Columbus and Florida is amazing.

Columbus is 9-1-1 in the last 10 and Florida is 7-3-0 in their last 10

The Devils have played some ugly games this year and they have still found ways to win

You do not want to miss the playoffs for 6 years in a row

What a difference a week makes though. Don't look now, but the Devils are 7-3 in their last 10 and now have the more favorable schedule. They have 4 of 6 remaining games at home and only 1 back to back. This is where having too many games at hand can be a negative. Florida has 8 games in the next 12 days. 3 back to backs in 12 days and two of the three have the second game on the road. Three of Florida's games are against Boston (2 of 3 are at Boston) which has a reason to try to win as it is currently one point behind Tampa for securing home ice through the conference finals. If Florida does make the playoffs it will be because they earned it.

You also should look at Philadelphia (probably more than Columbus). The Devils are currently 2 points behind Philadelphia with one fewer game played. The Flyers are at Colorado tonight -- a team that desperately needs a win.

The next two nights will clarify a lot between Florida visiting Toronto and then Ottawa, the Flyers visiting Colorado, and the Devils hosting Pittsburgh tomorrow.
 

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Last night's win and Flyers OT loss to Dallas was huge. We were 3 pts back with a game in hand so still needed help to catch them. They gave us that help last night, now back 2, game in hand, and with 40 wins to their 38, our destiny is really in our hands again. They just have to win the extra game and then win as many or the last 5 as the Flyers, who are showing signs of cooling off.

Six games left, every single one counts!
 
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I agree. I hate the way the NHL does its standings.
I did a quick check of the teams involved (Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Columbus, New Jersey, and Florida).

If you use my preferred method of 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an overtime or shootout win, 1 point for an overtime or shootout loss, and 0 points for a regulation loss, the standings would look as follows:

Pittsburgh: 123 points and 77 games played. 31 - 12 - 6 - 28 record
Columbus: 120 points and 77 games played. 29 - 14 - 5 - 29 record
Florida: 118 points and 74 games played. 33 - 6 - 7 - 28 record
Philadelphia: 118 points and 77 games played. 28 - 10 - 14 - 25 record
New Jersey: 117 points and 76 games played. 29 - 11 - 8 - 28 record

Would reward regulation victories more than gimmick overtime wins.
 

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If the Rangers move to Nashville, would anyone notice?:sunglasses:

Devils are most likely playoff bound and all we still hear about is the Rangers Re-Build in the Tri-State Area! Lets hope the Devils can get the Rock at least half full for the playoffs.....
 

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I did a quick check of the teams involved (Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Columbus, New Jersey, and Florida).

If you use my preferred method of 3 points for a regulation win, 2 points for an overtime or shootout win, 1 point for an overtime or shootout loss, and 0 points for a regulation loss, the standings would look as follows:

Pittsburgh: 123 points and 77 games played. 31 - 12 - 6 - 28 record
Columbus: 120 points and 77 games played. 29 - 14 - 5 - 29 record
Florida: 118 points and 74 games played. 33 - 6 - 7 - 28 record
Philadelphia: 118 points and 77 games played. 28 - 10 - 14 - 25 record
New Jersey: 117 points and 76 games played. 29 - 11 - 8 - 28 record

Would reward regulation victories more than gimmick overtime wins.
This makes sense too. But what was wrong with the old format (2 pts for a win, 1 for tie)?

Is a tie worse than a shootout? Does the nba decide games on a 3 point contest?
 

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This makes sense too. But what was wrong with the old format (2 pts for a win, 1 for tie)?

Is a tie worse than a shootout? Does the nba decide games on a 3 point contest?
But the NBA does not have tie's at all. Also very rare to see an NBA OT game go beyond a single OT. Happened all too often in the NHL. Just too many tie's in the league. I'd prefer the shootout with the 3 point system.
 

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This makes sense too. But what was wrong with the old format (2 pts for a win, 1 for tie)?

Is a tie worse than a shootout? Does the nba decide games on a 3 point contest?
I was OK with the ties.

What I HATE with a passion is that some games are worth two points and others are worth three.

Make each game worth three points.
- Win in regulation and you get all the points.
- Tied after regulation, both teams get one point. The gimmick/skills competition decides the final point (whether the 3 on 3 or shootout).

I don't like that teams can be incentivized in a game tied late to play for a tie. Make going to OT be viewed as a lost point.
 

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I was OK with the ties.

What I HATE with a passion is that some games are worth two points and others are worth three.

Make each game worth three points.
- Win in regulation and you get all the points.
- Tied after regulation, both teams get one point. The gimmick/skills competition decides the final point (whether the 3 on 3 or shootout).

I don't like that teams can be incentivized in a game tied late to play for a tie. Make going to OT be viewed as a lost point.
The fact that the NHL's primary reason for not moving to this system, despite massive agreement by pretty much everyone that it's way better, is because of concerns on how this would change the record book, that should tell you all you need to know.
 

JMORC2003

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The fact that the NHL's primary reason for not moving to this system, despite massive agreement by pretty much everyone that it's way better, is because of concerns on how this would change the record book, that should tell you all you need to know.
Should probably just look it up, but how many of Marty’s wins at the end come from shootouts that would have been ties in the old system?