Just don’t see what the allure of Schiano.
What he did here was over 10 years ago. That’s a long time in coaching.
What has he done since then? Embarrassed himself in the NFL, and isn’t killing it by any means at OSU.
Where does Schiano end up
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Just don’t see what the allure of Schiano.
What he did here was over 10 years ago. That’s a long time in coaching.
What has he done since then? Embarrassed himself in the NFL, and isn’t killing it by any means at OSU.
Not sure what year 5 has to do with year 2..Ash is much further along in year 2 than Schiano.
Yes, Schiano had a tougher rebuild no doubt. But Ash has much tougher competition. So in my mind sort of evens out.
Ash is better thru 2 years then Schiano was
His defenses have mostly been pretty good. He is a good recruiter. Barrett had 4 INTs yesterday. RU knows well what happens when you turn over the ball like that.
Agree. But with the amount of talent he has at OSU..shouldn’t allow 55, 38, and 31 point games. That doesn’t make a good impression.
Good recruiter. Sure. But if you can’t win with good recruits...what good is recruiting?
It's relative. Schiano won here with FL and NY players before turning the tide in NJ. Some place like UCF, his recruiting would create a talent gap significant enough to win a lot, where it would not at say, UF.
True.
If anything that’s the type of job he will get. A mid major so to speak.
Seems like his name is linked to every opening, but doesn’t get any last year. Don’t see why that changes this off season.
Schiano will get a HC position that the program needs a major rebuild.
But his chances of that being at a P-5 School just took a hit.
I look for a mid major in need of rebuilding to go after Greg and he'll understand
that's his best hope of returning to the HC ranks
East Carolina has fallen on hard times and might look for someone like Greg to
make it a winner again
Don't see any of the Florida Schools needing a new HC.
The AAC teams that might have looked at him like Cincy have new HCs,
but there's a few MAC schools that might be dumping their HC and might look Schiano's way.
Despite the dislike by some RU fans for Greg, he does have a reputation of turning a bad program into a respectable one and being a pretty good recruiter.
But for Greg to be a serious candidate for a HC position, the Buckeye's D has to show their far better than they looked at Iowa against MSU,Illinois and Michigan
along with playing strong in their post season game(s)
But his chances of that being at a P-5 School just took a hit.
I look for a mid major in need of rebuilding to go after Greg and he'll understand
that's his best hope of returning to the HC ranks
East Carolina has fallen on hard times and might look for someone like Greg to
make it a winner again
Don't see any of the Florida Schools needing a new HC.
The AAC teams that might have looked at him like Cincy have new HCs,
but there's a few MAC schools that might be dumping their HC and might look Schiano's way.
Despite the dislike by some RU fans for Greg, he does have a reputation of turning a bad program into a respectable one and being a pretty good recruiter.
But for Greg to be a serious candidate for a HC position, the Buckeye's D has to show their far better than they looked at Iowa against MSU,Illinois and Michigan
along with playing strong in their post season game(s)
I don't think he has any interest in a G5 opening. I could be wrong but I think he waits for the right P5 opening. Obviously he would jump at Florida, that's the perfect job for him. Whether he gets that chance or they go with Scott Frost or someone else remains to be seen. Pretty sure they're not going with Randy Shannon
He wasn't available or looking last year. He committed to two years at OSU when he took Ash's old job. Now he can take a job if something comes up. In the meantime, he is OSU's DC, so there's no rush if the right opening doesn't present itself this off-season. He can coach at OSU next year if he wants. No reason to take a G5 job at all, he's a proven head coach with a great track record. Regardless of the feelings any of us have for him, he took what was essentially a 1AA program that had been to one bowl game ever and in five years turned it into a perennial bowl team.
Might want to throw Butch Davis hat in there ahead of Schiano's. He's 6-2 at FIU and I highly doubt this is where he wants to end his career.
I wasn't being serious about him being fired. I was shining light on this idea that he's a top 3 coach on everyone's board as someone said down thread. He's a very god DC and RU owes him for bringing us to relevance but this board is over the top with him. I don't hate him I'm just objective. I don't care how many TO's they had he's given up 40 plus points like 4 times in one year.
Agree. Oklahoma shredding OSU’s D? That’s understandable. But no one will ever confuse Iowa with having an explosive offense. What happened yesterday reflects poorly on GS.
I have to add this. My problem with GS' defenses when he was here was that we were often out of position which lead to huge cutback runs and difficulty stopping spread offenses. It was too "high risk/high reward" for my taste. WVU seemed to exploit this weakness every single year. While Ash's D doesn't seem to force the turnovers that GS' did thus far, he seems to have our players in position more consistently. I'm not saying we should never take chances or give exotic looks but you have to be able to stabilize out of your base defense at times.
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Greg will get a shot somewhere next year. Mind you, I call it a shot because he will get some legit interviews and interest. Not like the years before landing DC at OSU where he was supposedly one of the top guys for every big opening.
And I am not a fan but he is far from toxic, that is craz talk. What he may be, is a threat to an AD...there is a big difference but both can hurt.
I also think that some that don’t like him are pointing toward the almost 100 pats he has given up over two weeks. And other rightfully point out that other factors were involved in those points, not just his defense. With that said...he has a defense made up of top 100 kids. And that goes 3 deep. So, with him being a defensive genius and that level of talent, he has to prove himself in those tough circumstances and be the unit that wins those games. There are zero excuses when you coach at a OSU or Bama.
And I am not a fan but he is far from toxic, that is craz talk. What he may be, is a threat to an AD...there is a big difference but both can hurt.
I also think that some that don’t like him are pointing toward the almost 100 pats he has given up over two weeks. And other rightfully point out that other factors were involved in those points, not just his defense. With that said...he has a defense made up of top 100 kids. And that goes 3 deep. So, with him being a defensive genius and that level of talent, he has to prove himself in those tough circumstances and be the unit that wins those games. There are zero excuses when you coach at a OSU or Bama.
The disagreement here is legitimate. Fortunately, we only have to wait about a month to find out. He is not going to a bowl team.
IMO he will probably get a HC job, but it will be one of the last ones filled. He just doesn't have the resume for a Florida, Tennessee, etc. Between the recycled guys like Mullen and the young up and comers like Frost, Greg is caught in the middle. Some one will take him when he is about the last potential guy available.
IMO he will probably get a HC job, but it will be one of the last ones filled. He just doesn't have the resume for a Florida, Tennessee, etc. Between the recycled guys like Mullen and the young up and comers like Frost, Greg is caught in the middle. Some one will take him when he is about the last potential guy available.
Their defense was #3 PPG last year and #5 YPG last year. Even at OSU, when you lose 3 DB’s in the first round you’re gonna have a drop off.
Couldn't even read the entire thread! You people are insane. You complain about a coach that hasn't been here in over 5 years yet he gets 2-6 page threads nearly every week. You folks are truly obsessed with him and rightly so, he is the best RU has ever had! Two weeks ago Ash sucked on this board now he is a legend. WTF is his signature win Maryland? Morgan State? He has done nothing to earn any respect and never will here. Rutger's gets what it pays for. He was a bargain basement hire, but the way most act on this board it is what they deserve! Don't worry for all of you who think Coach Schiano's coming back would actually be RU's choice I got a bridge for you.
People always assume that coaches never learn from their failures. Some don't, but that's not always the case. Bill Belichick isn't the same coach in New England that he was in Cleveland. Pete Carroll at Seattle and USC is a much different coach than he was in New England and New York. I think Schiano is a very good coach. If he goes somewhere with the resources to hire good assistants and he delegates more, he will be successful.
How did we get from us beating Maryland for our third win in 4 games to this blast from the past?
Schiano did a great job turning a very weak program around. He did a lousy job as a pro HC, and his record at OSU is not strong.
So, he's out of consideration for a top flight P5 job like Florida or Tennessee. They can do much better. But he's also better than a non-P5 school. He will end up at a P5 that has a big task in front of them. I'm thinking Illinois or Kansas type of deal. He could do good work at either of those.
So, he's out of consideration for a top flight P5 job like Florida or Tennessee. They can do much better. But he's also better than a non-P5 school. He will end up at a P5 that has a big task in front of them. I'm thinking Illinois or Kansas type of deal. He could do good work at either of those.
As we like to say in NZ, "Yeah, no." I could have worded that better. What I meant is that they are examples of kind of historically weak programs that need a complete overhaul type of HC. I don't think GS is getting looks at the Tennessee's Florida's of the world.
Or Lane Kiffin at FAU. FAU ahead of FIU in the Conference USA standings. Or does he need a longer rehabilitation?
Problem with hiring kiffin is you are guaranteed that when it goes bad it will go really bad and it doesn't have involve actual football stuff
He is no longer a big threat to us. I'm not for negative recruiting but it would be easy to now use it against him.
Beat Indiana and we are a mid level Big 10 program now.
Regarding Kiffin, initial results exhibit signs of potential - however prior experience indicates that further study would be advisable.
So its the OC's fault he couldn't put of 56 points yesterday? The offense scored enough to win.
Thats what I'm thinking. He'll be a candidate for a P5 opening, and get the job after the first or second choice passes. He's a good coach, a good program builder, and good person, and also has a good resume with NFL and Ohio State (regardless of the results).
Or at this point Urban may just be looking to foist him onto someone.
According to RU_FML who is usually in the know, He may wind up at Arkansas. Brett may have been fired today if they lost that game against a G5 school yesterday.