This Institution will not invest the necessary funds to make us more competitive in the B10 conference. Without a serious financial push for better coaches and recruiters we'll never obtain the depth necessary to compete in the Big Ten conference. To that end I ask what was the point of joining this conference?
Let's face it, We're Broke!!
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In year 7 you will say Flood set us back 8 years. Other teams would have reloaded in two short years.
50m per year starting in 4 yrs might be a thought.
We had way less money in 2014 when we were 8-5. It puts us at a disadvantage but it's not really that great of an excuse.
Dude STHU please. I'm not even a fan and some of you delusional fans are insane. You went 2-10 and lost 224-0 in big ten play. It doesn't work like that. Its a f'ing rebuild. Your going to have to sit thru this ****. You mean to tell me your team hasn't done nothing in 100 plus years but because you win bowl games and share a conference title after Miami, VT, and BC leaves, that Ash can sprinkle pixie dust on Rutgers after one year, your suppose to be Nat Champs. Welcome to big boy ball. You gotta crawl before you walk boy. Its a process. Man some of ya'll are INSANE.
What other option did we have? Nobody else wanted us. this is nothing more than a money grab. we get the big payout in a couple of years for our part. the conference gets increased TV revenue and fertile recruiting ground for their demographically challenged outpost members like Iowa Nebraska and Minnesota for their part. Prepare yourself for years of misery.
Can I like this more than once?
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK #RTR
You're missing the point. We suck. Not like bad P5 suck. We suck like D2 suck. We'd be one of the worst teams in the AAC. We'd struggle in CUSA and the Sun Belt. Would you rather go to a lesser conference and get blown out by Tulane and Lousiana-Monroe while collecting a smaller paycheck?
I'm wondering how young some people are. We've been through worse before -- we are god-awful in a lesser, less respected conference and making less money and drawing smaller crowds in a smaller stadium doing it. This is nothing.
You don't have to be rich to compete. Long term, year after year requires money. No doubt. But there's no reason you have to suck every year because you're "broke." We were 8-5 with an easy bowl win over a P5 team just a few years ago. In the Big Ten. You know, with Flood. Yes, I get that was the worst Michigan team in decades we barely beat at home, but so what? Now, suddenly, we don't have the money to compete?
Bull. We were flooded. And as bad as we thought it was, it was even worse. I will never blame Schiano for taking an NFL job, but that timing was horrific. So few options at that point, and in the end we probably had only one. (Don't give me that crap about Rutgers unwillingness to pay for a real coach. What "real" coach is leaving his program a few days before signing day to come to Rutgers?)
Being broke has nothing to do with 2-10 last year and where we are now. Year after year after year of 5-7 would be a better reflection of resources than a sudden collapse to oblivion.
You don't have to be rich to compete. Long term, year after year requires money. No doubt. But there's no reason you have to suck every year because you're "broke." We were 8-5 with an easy bowl win over a P5 team just a few years ago. In the Big Ten. You know, with Flood. Yes, I get that was the worst Michigan team in decades we barely beat at home, but so what? Now, suddenly, we don't have the money to compete?
Bull. We were flooded. And as bad as we thought it was, it was even worse. I will never blame Schiano for taking an NFL job, but that timing was horrific. So few options at that point, and in the end we probably had only one. (Don't give me that crap about Rutgers unwillingness to pay for a real coach. What "real" coach is leaving his program a few days before signing day to come to Rutgers?)
Being broke has nothing to do with 2-10 last year and where we are now. Year after year after year of 5-7 would be a better reflection of resources than a sudden collapse to oblivion.
No doubt - he'll even when RU was playing Colgate and Lehigh it's not like alumni were pouring money into the programs. Even if the admin wanted to try to go big time for sports they didnt and still don't have all the scholarships endowed...that's weak sauce.
Want to blame someone blame your grandfathers and fathers for not giving enough back...there's a reason why schools like tOSU are always building new buildings with someone's name on them...cause people loved their school and give back tons...not Rutgers....not yet.
Want to blame someone blame your grandfathers and fathers for not giving enough back...there's a reason why schools like tOSU are always building new buildings with someone's name on them...cause people loved their school and give back tons...not Rutgers....not yet.
I'm sorry, but I don't want to hear a Bama fan telling us we have to be patient.
Trust me the Institution is more than happy when they hear "its Floods fault" or one of my favorites "this is a 5-7 year rebuild". Spend some money and bring in a head coach with experience and name recognition. Hire some qualified assistants. Finally win games like the one we played in today and the recruits will come.
In our 8-5 season those were Schiano-coached players, especially the defense. Once the Flood regime took over it became a daycare for teens, and the toughness and discipline went out the window. Unless Lewis learns quickly and takes a strong leadership position on the team, we have 5+ years to go before we get to 8 wins. The rebuild in a top-3 conference in the country isn't going to happen overnight unless we get an all-world player like Teddy Bridgewater or Saquon Barkley. Those guys have an amazing way of making their coaches and other teammates look good. I hope Lewis is that guy, but being a Rutgers fan, with an administration that has been as clueless as an administration can be, is a labor of love and despondency.
Why are we skirting the issue. When we had a chance to truly invest in the football program Rutgers decided to raid the Medical School, an endeavor that cost this institution 84 million plus (and growning) since 2013. How much has been invested in the football program? I'm convinced that unless something changes real soon your going to start seeing half empty stadium during high profile games and the next step is an exit interview.
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Sorry but we're simply not on an equal footing with anybody in the conference including Maryland who makes 3 times what we do. If the B1G wanted us competitive immediately they would have voted to have our buy in over a 20 yr. period. Or when we asked for an advance would have voted to give it to us. They said no, they are getting exactly what they wanted more money for little competition. It's like trying to judge a one legged man in an *** kicking competition when everyone else has two legs.
I rarely call you names but only an imbecile could come to this conclusion. You really think they're going to sit us down and say we're giving you 1/5th of everyone else, why aren't you more competitive? Come on, this is a pretty dumb premise you posed based on nothing.
I firmly believe that unless something changes and we start playing teams like OSU, MSU and PSU in half empty stadiums while finishing the season with a 2-10 record the conference will start to question the invite. I'm fully aware of the current payout! It doesn't mean you hire a co-DC at 1.5 million a year and pass up on competent HC's like Golden because they wanted 2.5 million per year. I know you actually think for yourself, think about what I'm saying.
Please list the illustrious and numerous successes of Al Golden. He flamed out terribly in Miami - a place with WAY more resources (talent and monetarily) than Rutgers. Why would he have been a sure fire success here?
Not only are you an obvious troll but you clearly just have a poor understanding of the sport in general.
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Am Golden!!!! Are you Eddie Murphy? You are funny as hell.
It figures, an outsider understands the situation better than many posters on this board, but that's okay, because many fans see the game through their heart.
We weren't this terrible for 100+ years. that's the problem. Before joining the Big Ten we actually had a winning record against Big Ten teams (not named Penn State who we went something like 2-15 against.. all of those no true home games)... shoulda beat Bear Bryant's number 1 Bama in 1980 at Giants Stadium. We know what we were.. a mediocre program capable of beating ranked teams on occasion.
But we had some bad coaches dump us in the gutter.. when we really had no infrastructure with which to compete. But Greg Schiano was supported here and he built something.. then the next guy pissed it away.
Bama was on the road to mediocrity when they decided to pony up big dollars for a proven coach in Saban. So don't tell us that money means nothing and that it is all about history. Other programs have plunked down big dollars and cheated their asses off.. Baylor for example... pulled itself up from never-beens to perpetually ranked.
It can be done and there is nothing wrong with Rutgers fans looking forward to a time when we get our share of Big Ten money. But until then, we want our guys to play hard and our coaches to be smart and if they are both we need not be at the bottom of the Big Ten.
Cripes- can someone just finally shut this idiot up. We ll know he is a troll and is allowed to just continue trolling. Even a fan of another team had to tell him to stfu
In case you missed it, NJ was fertile recruiting ground for Nebraska before most of the country had cable TV.
Some of you guys need to stop with this Al Golden ****. He sucked at Temple and got run out of Miami. He's not The Guy.
I am. You?
"Why" I ask is that you do not seem to understand the financial dynamic involved and your expectations are naive.