Northwestern and Miss St. are ranked higher and have more recruits and a lower average.
Class now ranked #21
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Northwestern and Miss St. are ranked higher and have more recruits and a lower average.
Yeah, not buying any of this "same position as last year" crap. We all know we have higher numbers than a few of the programs behind us that will likely jump us. This is news to no one. But for the record, we really don't have higher numbers than many programs in our neighborhood on that chart, many of them have more recruits than us.
Ash is actually building something, and he's doing it with NJ kids. The quality of recruits is already way up from what we had coming in last year. He's actually gotten top 10 NJ recruits to commit early, which is what 90% of posters here were screaming for at the top of their lungs last year. That's what we've always needed right? What more do you want?
We now have a competent staff that knows how the recruiting game works at some of the best programs in the country. They aren't the bunch of unqualified putzes most of this board had grown accustomed to. These guys will not be outworked, and they sure as hell will not put us in the "same situation as last year."
Ash is actually building something, and he's doing it with NJ kids. The quality of recruits is already way up from what we had coming in last year. He's actually gotten top 10 NJ recruits to commit early, which is what 90% of posters here were screaming for at the top of their lungs last year. That's what we've always needed right? What more do you want?
We now have a competent staff that knows how the recruiting game works at some of the best programs in the country. They aren't the bunch of unqualified putzes most of this board had grown accustomed to. These guys will not be outworked, and they sure as hell will not put us in the "same situation as last year."
Looking back at the posts, it seems you are the only one who said "same position as last year." We are all well aware of the coaching upgrades and their pedigrees. Nobody is doubting that. OK?
I'm not trying to be a downer. I have a positive outlook on Ash and the job he's done so far. I'll also point out that I don't agree with a lot of what Knightshift says, but in this case he's simply stating that KF had a similar story and it fell apart for him. Yes it's a different staff but they are technically doing the same job, how is that not relevant? When we get the finished product (after the class signs), we'll have something to compare and contrast to. Why would anybody be barred from simply stating that KF once had early success before he blundered? We're in a good position, but nothing is official until the NSD. We have these conversations annually and everyone has the tendency to get overly excited or overly depressing before we even get to the finish line. So yes, different staff.... but still relevant.
How could you not agree with EVERYTHING I say? :boxing:
I am not trying to be a downer either, but just temper expectations, in case some are out of whack. Overall, I am much more optimistic about recruiting success in years' past. The prior regime had multiple issues that do not exist with this regime, which makes me even more optimistic. I hope we keep everyone and kick Harbaugh, Franklin and Meyer in the nuts when it comes to keeping NJ recruits at home.
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Congrats on the good memory..... So we had the same back and forth roughly a year ago, but the optimistic thing is that we are about 16 places higher at the same time, but aided by a few more recruits this year.
And more importantly, a competent staff.
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Noticed that...... I think after all is said and done we can wind up in the 38, 39 area.... And to me this would
Not be a disappointment considering all the crap we have been through...... Of course top 25 we can hope.
I think we have a good shot of breaking top 30 for a few reasons. First we will probably have a much larger class than usual. Secondly a lot of our current commits should see a nice bump eventually, most notably Bo and Taylor who should be 4 stars which will make a huge difference on the class ranking. Lastly, a lot of our remaining targets that we are in good positions for are either high 3 stars (5.7) or 4 stars, if we close the deal on most of them, look out.
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Someone posted last year, that the services only consider the top 20 recruits of each team, or something number like that.... So late in recruiting the large number is not helpful.
Not sure if this is true or is it true across all recruiting services. If so, it's unfair and makes very little sense.
If team A has 30 commits and Team B has 20 and that team A's top 20 is equal to team B's 20, no one is going to argue against team A having a much better class regardless of the rankings on the remaining 10.
Because KF blundering has no impact on whether CA blunders. It is not a matter of barring someone from talking about a previous class, just it is irrelevant to what going to happen this year.
Everyone knows that things can change between now and LOI day, good or bad.
Wow, we are strictly talking about expectations v.s. reality and you literally agreed and disagreed all in the same post without even realizing it. Doesn't matter who's in the driver's seat, probability for a car crash is still present. Stop getting your panties in a bunch because somebody said Voldemort's, I mean Kyle Flood's name.
If the driver is blind, car crash is all but guaranteed as we found out the hard way, I like our chances now with a professional driver in the seat.
Rivals moved from using all players to just the top 20 in their formulas a couple years ago. I believe it's still done that way. Don't know about the other recruiting services though.
Let us all hold hands and pray. Dear lord please keep this class together and bestow upon us Hansard Hand and Bell.
I will take any and all good news at this point.
We need good vibes. badly...
He also has an OSU offer, one of us is getting him...:flushed:
We need good vibes. badly...
He also has an OSU offer, one of us is getting him...:flushed:
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Well, if we lose Bell directly to Urban, I imagine some of the feel good stuff between Ash and Urban will begin to fade, as it should..... We really cannot expect OSU to stay out of NJ..... So eventually it will happen.... Not a feud, but a natural relationship between two competing programs.
If you choose not support this board, that's your prerogative, but to promote other boards here is in poor taste.
Not promoting
Didn't know we can't post free media stuff, Hunt's recruiting stuff is posted on here all the time. If this is against the rules my apologies, just wanted to share some free tidbits with fellow fans.
I was never banned FYI
Didn't know we can't post free media stuff, Hunt's recruiting stuff is posted on here all the time. If this is against the rules my apologies, just wanted to share some free tidbits with fellow fans.
I'm chill.
If you were unaware that you were promoting, then try to apply some common sense next time. You are linking to a competitive site.
I think he was implying this post could get you banned, might be good idea to edit the original post.
I'm not sure on rules, but since sites offer a premium fee service, making them more similar to this site than a news paper website with only ad supported content.