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Gunny46

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I lean towards legalizing pot. Toured a few facilities in California. Really impressive how they have regulated for safety and pushed out the illegal sellers as a result. Licensing made huge money.

Are you impressed with California right now? Seems all the functional people are moving out.
 

spartansstink

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I’m not concerned about WV falling behind it is what it is at this point. But, your boomer “get off my lawn” or “if you don’t like it then leave” mindset sure doesn’t help anything.
This right here is what its all about.

I remember when I was young, too. Thought I knew everything. Thought I knew more than the people who had lived 2 or 3 times longer. Just a bunch of ignorant old fogies set in their ways.

I had multiple degrees from renowned institutions of higher learning. What did they know?

Took me a while to know that while I had learning I didn't have something much more valuable - wisdom. As the years went on, I came to grasp that was what was missing. How right they were in so many ways.

I also learned this - sometimes the best step forward is either no step at all or a step backwards. Going along with the "everybody else is doing it" mantra without clearly evaluating it is never wise.

But I don't feel the OP is really all that concerned with Granny's swelling. I believe he's more concerned about the lack of swelling that will be coming to his wallet.
 

rog1187

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Are you impressed with California right now? Seems all the functional people are moving out.
Not with everything California but I think its okay to look at what States are doing and how it might work in our State
 

Gunny46

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Not with everything California but I think its okay to look at what States are doing and how it might work in our State

Look at California. Do the opposite. Like I mentioned the functional people have been fleeing.

Making money isn't everything. Huge fan of Capitalism. That sounds more like Crony Capitalism. The CCP would approve.
 

ThePunish-EER

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I’m not concerned about WV falling behind it is what it is at this point. But, your boomer “get off my lawn” or “if you don’t like it then leave” mindset sure doesn’t help anything.
Ok, if my mindset shouldn’t matter, then why should yours? See how that works libtard? Why are you idiots constantly wanting us to accept you or change for you? Go somewhere that already has like minded fools and leave us alone. Hence, go to California or New York.
 

Gunny46

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Ok, if my mindset shouldn’t matter, then why should yours? See how that works libtard? Why are you idiots constantly wanting us to accept you or change for you? Go somewhere that already has like minded fools and leave us alone. Hence, go to California or New York.

The whole Boomer comment cracks me up. I guess he doesn't realize the USSR and their enablers had the Boomer generation strung out and protesting all over place during the 1960's.
 
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Are you willing to vote for a bunch of Progressive Socialist to make that happen? Unfortunately Like Nancy Pelosi once said you will have to pass the bill to see what's in it.


NO !!!!!......I'm just saying it would be a good thing to do no matter who is in office.....
 

ThePunish-EER

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The whole Boomer comment cracks me up. I guess he doesn't realize the USSR and their enablers had the Boomer generation strung out and protesting all over place during the 1960's.
The thing he is missing is Pandora’s box. Sure, I agree, pot isn’t any more harmful than alcohol and smoking. However, it’s still a drug. Once it’s legalized nationally, then they demand heroin. And their argument shifts to, “Well marijuana is a drug and it’s legal, so why aren’t all drugs legal?”
 

Gunny46

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NO !!!!!......I'm just saying it would be a good thing to do no matter who is in office.....
The thing he is missing is Pandora’s box. Sure, I agree, pot isn’t any more harmful than alcohol and smoking. However, it’s still a drug. Once it’s legalized nationally, then they demand heroin. And their argument shifts to, “Well marijuana is a drug and it’s legal, so why aren’t all drugs legal?”


I'm not a teetotaler or your moral compass. I recommend that it would be a good time to practice soberity for a while. I was going to draw a detailed picture for everyone but I just realized I ate all the crayons. We have enough zombies running around.
 
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WVUALLEN

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Delta 8, 9, and 10 THC products. Just ridiculous - they're making it a level 1 drug similar to Heroin. I hate living in this backward state sometimes - bunch of boomer politicians that continue to put us farther and farther behind the times.
Take your *** and leave then.
 

WVUALLEN

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Again, putting any of these products in the same vein as literally any drug is laughable. Tells me you truly have no idea what you’re talking about.
THC is the main psychoactive compound in marijuana. It's what makes people feel high. Two types of cannabinoid receptors in our bodies. THC binds with receptors mostly in the brain.
 

WVUALLEN

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Cannabis is a plant that makes a thick substance full of compounds called cannabinoids. There are more than 100 of these chemicals in cannabis. They cause drug-like reactions in your body.
 

deedoubleyou

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This is a fun topic lol. First off, I have no idea what delta level pot is, and dont care to know. But I will say this, I work in VA right in the middle of the two richest counties in America. I dont see a lot of homeless people where I'm at. There is not a big drug problem here either, at least not nearly like WV. However, pot is 100% legal in VA and most people grow it themselves, legally. I work in houses that are on average probably 5 million plus. I would say roughly half of the people I work for smoke and grow pot. Most of them are political conservatives with good jobs and families. VA also has top notch healthcare, a good economy, great infrastructure, etc, etc. Things WV doesnt....

I do agree that pot doesnt belong in the same category as the harder drugs like meth. I think it belongs in the same category as alcohol, something that is rampant for addiction in WV and beyond as well but no one wants to talk about.

The drug problem in WV has a lot more to it than the laws on drugs. Those laws have failed, and we have failed. We have been trying for 40 years to try and get a handle on the drug problem in America, and yet its only ever gotten worse. When you look at a place like WV, its time to stop worrying about the fact that people use and start to figure why and how to fix it. WV is a depressed state. The economy sucks, the infrastructure sucks, the healthcare sucks, the business laws suck, our politicians suck, and so on and so forth. Even downtown Morgantown looks like a 3rd world country now. You can hardly drive those crappy streets. Nasty *** politicians there these days.

You want to fix the drug problem in a state like WV, you should consider not worrying about the drug laws that are broken every day regardless, and start fixing the things that make WV like a 3rd world country. I grew up in Morgantown and always loved that town. Its barely recognizable now. A fkn ********. The rest of the state is no better. Nothing will ever get better until the living conditions are fixed and kids grow up with a tiny bit of hope for a future in their home state.

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And it is very important to get a handle on the borders of our country if we want to take the drug epidemic seriously. If you arent willing to close the borders, then you simply dont care about the fentynal overdose deaths and the drug problem in general and to say otherwise is a lie lol.
 
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Gunny46

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This is a fun topic lol. First off, I have no idea what delta level pot is, and dont care to know. But I will say this, I work in VA right in the middle of the two richest counties in America. I dont see a lot of homeless people where I'm at. There is not a big drug problem here either, at least not nearly like WV. However, pot is 100% legal in VA and most people grow it themselves, legally. I work in houses that are on average probably 5 million plus. I would say roughly half of the people I work for smoke and grow pot. Most of them are political conservatives with good jobs and families. VA also has top notch healthcare, a good economy, great infrastructure, etc, etc. Things WV doesnt....

I do agree that pot doesnt belong in the same category as the harder drugs like meth. I think it belongs in the same category as alcohol, something that is rampant for addiction in WV and beyond as well but no one wants to talk about.

The drug problem in WV has a lot more to do with it than the laws on drugs. Those laws have failed, and we have failed. We have been trying for 40 years to try and get a handle on the drug problem in America, and yet its only ever gotten worse. When you look at a place like WV, its time to stop worrying about the fact that people use and start to figure why and how to fix it. WV is a depressed state. The economy sucks, the infrastructure sucks, the healthcare sucks, the business laws suck, our politicians suck, and so on and so forth. Even downtown Morgantown looks like a 3rd world country now. You can hardly drive those crappy streets. Nasty *** politicians there these days.

You want to fix the drug problem in a state like WV, you should consider not worrying about the drug laws that are broken every day regardless, and start fixing the things that make WV like a 3rd world country. I grew up in Morgantown and always loved that town. Its barely recognizable now. A fkn ********. The rest of the state is no better. Nothing will ever get better until the living conditions are fixed and kids grow up with a tiny bit of hope for a future in their home state.
Give them pot. That will raise their ambition levels. West Virginia is in the Condition it's in because it was ran by Democrats for decades. Like I said above fix the problems first that caused the addiction problem.
 

deedoubleyou

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Give them pot. That will raise their ambition levels. West Virginia is in the Condition it's in because it was ran by Democrats for decades. Like I said above fix the problem first that caused the addiction.
I agree its the democrat politicians and their socialist policies. Its why Morgantown is a junkie town now. Apparently they want it to look like Portland Oregon. We are a perfect example of what democrats will do if they run your area long term. That definitely needs fixed bad.
 

Gunny46

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I agree its the democrat politicians and their socialist policies. Its why Morgantown is a junkie town now. Apparently they want it to look like Portland Oregon. We are a perfect example of what democrats will do if they run your area long term. That definitely needs fixed bad.

I just don't think it's good mix right now. Marijuana isn't a gateway for everyone but I think you would be throwing gas on a fire. I posted the medical exceptions above. I'm good with those.
 

deedoubleyou

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I just don't think it's good mix right now. Marijuana isn't a gateway for everyone but I think you would be throwing gas on a fire. I posted the medical exceptions above. I'm good with those.
Its definitely not the first thing or even close that I would do to begin to fix WV. Its not an issue I put much into, especially when other things need addressed.
 

ThePunish-EER

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This is a fun topic lol. First off, I have no idea what delta level pot is, and dont care to know. But I will say this, I work in VA right in the middle of the two richest counties in America. I dont see a lot of homeless people where I'm at. There is not a big drug problem here either, at least not nearly like WV. However, pot is 100% legal in VA and most people grow it themselves, legally. I work in houses that are on average probably 5 million plus. I would say roughly half of the people I work for smoke and grow pot. Most of them are political conservatives with good jobs and families. VA also has top notch healthcare, a good economy, great infrastructure, etc, etc. Things WV doesnt....

I do agree that pot doesnt belong in the same category as the harder drugs like meth. I think it belongs in the same category as alcohol, something that is rampant for addiction in WV and beyond as well but no one wants to talk about.

The drug problem in WV has a lot more to it than the laws on drugs. Those laws have failed, and we have failed. We have been trying for 40 years to try and get a handle on the drug problem in America, and yet its only ever gotten worse. When you look at a place like WV, its time to stop worrying about the fact that people use and start to figure why and how to fix it. WV is a depressed state. The economy sucks, the infrastructure sucks, the healthcare sucks, the business laws suck, our politicians suck, and so on and so forth. Even downtown Morgantown looks like a 3rd world country now. You can hardly drive those crappy streets. Nasty *** politicians there these days.

You want to fix the drug problem in a state like WV, you should consider not worrying about the drug laws that are broken every day regardless, and start fixing the things that make WV like a 3rd world country. I grew up in Morgantown and always loved that town. Its barely recognizable now. A fkn ********. The rest of the state is no better. Nothing will ever get better until the living conditions are fixed and kids grow up with a tiny bit of hope for a future in their home state.

Edit,
And it is very important to get a handle on the borders of our country if we want to take the drug epidemic seriously. If you arent willing to close the borders, then you simply dont care about the fentynal overdose deaths and the drug problem in general and to say otherwise is a lie lol.
Look at those who benefit from keeping the border open. It’s not just the gangs and cartels.
Give them pot. That will raise their ambition levels. West Virginia is in the Condition it's in because it was ran by Democrats for decades. Like I said above fix the problems first that caused the addiction problem.
Probably the truest statement.
 

NYC_Eer

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Imagine this.. there are republicans out there that don’t like Trump (shocking, I know).
Not on this cesspool. If you’re a Republican that doesn’t vote Trump you’re a RINO. They love acronyms so they don’t need to spell btw.

They also never heard of someone from one party voting for an issue associated with another party.
 

Gunny46

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Look at those who benefit from keeping the border open. It’s not just the gangs and cartels.

Probably the truest statement.

We were way ahead of the rest of the country that way. They are about to find out.
 

roadtrasheer

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I just don't think it's good mix right now. Marijuana isn't a gateway for everyone but I think you would be throwing gas on a fire. I posted the medical exceptions above. I'm good with those.
From my experience from a druggie family those who just smoke pot or drink stay away from the hard stuff .
Pot is no different than bourbon a drink a night no problem, a 5th a night a problem. Telling people to stay sober is good advice.
 

Gunny46

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From my experience from a druggie family those who just smoke pot or drink stay away from the hard stuff .
Pot is no different than bourbon a drink a night no problem, a 5th a night a problem. Telling people to stay sober is good advice.

That very well may be your experience. Like I said above it's not a gateway for everyone. However it is for several. Being where the State ranks on drug use I'm not confident it's being done responsibly. So I stand by fixing the issues causing the hard drug use first.
 

roadtrasheer

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That very well may be your experience. Like I said above it's not a gateway for everyone. However it is for several. Being where the State ranks on drug use I'm not confident it's being done responsibly. So I stand by fixing the issues causing the hard drug use first.
Meth, opioid, fentanyl and heroine is the drug abuse devastating WV . Pot just like alcohol can be abused . I'm not a smoker of any kind, nor a dealer. both have long lasting side effects. Pot like alcohol has many medical benefits if used properly.
I agree staying predominantly sober is always the best ....last night I did not ....
 

Gunny46

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Meth, opioid, fentanyl and heroine is the drug abuse devastating WV . Pot just like alcohol can be abused . I'm not a smoker of any kind, nor a dealer. both have long lasting side effects. Pot like alcohol has many medical benefits if used properly.
I agree staying predominantly sober is always the best ....last night I did not ....

Until you fix the root cause of the first group you mentioned it's not a good idea. I listed the medical reasons you can get a prescription above. I have no problem with that. They seem pretty legitimate to me.
 

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If you’re a Republican that doesn’t vote Trump you’re a RINO.
No, that’s not correct.

If you’re a Republican and doesn’t support Trump’s policies, you’re a RINO. Trump’s policies were what was best for all Americans as everyone was benefitting. There were bucket list items the left refused to support just so Republicans couldn’t get the credit for it. These types of people are dangerous for our nation.
 

roadtrasheer

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Agre
Until you fix the root cause of the first group you mentioned it's not a good idea. I listed the medical reasons you can get a prescription above. I have no problem with that. They seem pretty legitimate to me
We will have to agree to disagree on making pot legal until someone changes my mind .
I 100% agree we need to find the root cause that makes people want to try most of these drugs to begin with. The pill problem come from big pharma a Dr's . Heroine replaced the pills fentanyl a cheaper alternative to pills .
 

Gunny46

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Agre

We will have to agree to disagree on making pot legal until someone changes my mind .
I 100% agree we need to find the root cause that makes people want to try most of these drugs to begin with. The pill problem come from big pharma a Dr's . Heroine replaced the pills fentanyl a cheaper alternative to pills .

My stance isn't against the weed really. Why did so many people move from tying one on occasionally to being zombies needing to constantly escape reality. I say we concentrate on fixing that. Then we can throw a big party and you can do want you want.
 

ThePunish-EER

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Not on this cesspool. If you’re a Republican that doesn’t vote Trump you’re a RINO. They love acronyms so they don’t need to spell btw.

They also never heard of someone from one party voting for an issue associated with another party.
What a doofus you are lol. We vote for the policy and not the man. For all of the personality flaws you perceive Trump to have, his policies made America Great Again. Even for you. You’re blinded by a combination of hate and stupidity. The hate was manufactured. You were born with the stupidity. Blame it on bad genetics
 

Gunny46

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What a doofus you are lol. We vote for the policy and not the man. For all of the personality flaws you perceive Trump to have, his policies made America Great Again. Even for you. You’re blinded by a combination of hate and stupidity. The hate was manufactured. You were born with the stupidity. Blame it on bad genetics

Do you think he's been sober a day since Hillary lost?
 

Gunny46

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Zaire THEY truly c enervative Republicans at heart or simply RINOs who pretend and then stand with the liberals?

They want zombies voting for the New Democrat Party. Once they get power they could care less if they die off. They definitely don't care about weed. It's a means to an objective.