Libtard Lockdown Loonies...tell me, what’s the end game here?

dave

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Guess you didn't read my post. I said they've been eating OUTSIDE, which doesn't seem to be much of an issue, and now due to the weather they are eating INSIDE, which is obviously an easier way to spread COVID.

I capitalized the inside and outside words to make it easier to understand.
We have been eating inside resturaunts since June.
 

NYC_Eer

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Nothing in your post was remotely honest. Go sell fear somewhere else.
All of it was. You just don't understand or want to. Not my problem.

I would ask for a video of a Trump rally where most people are wearing masks, but why bother? It doesn't exist.
 

dave

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All of it was. You just don't understand or want to. Not my problem.

I would ask for a video of a Trump rally where most people are wearing masks, but why bother? It doesn't exist.
Little nancys worried about who wears masks and who doesnt. You can go **** in your hat fear pornstar. Nobody needs to shut down because of covid. It is entirely ridiculous. If you are scared go home.
 

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I do think a big problem is people think wearing a mask/gaiter/whatever makes them completely safe.
I believe masks to be a false sense of security, depending on the mask , it may help in a small way ....
Wash your dang hands before you pee & after dont rub your face without washing your hands
 

Mntneer

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All of it was. You just don't understand or want to. Not my problem.

I would ask for a video of a Trump rally where most people are wearing masks, but why bother? It doesn't exist.

Like the "Protests" and rallies that took place in June/July/August?
 

dave

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I've heard this a million times. It's primarily the risk of spreading it to old people.
That is why we put covid patients in nursing homes....oh wait, that was blue governors.
 

NYC_Eer

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Little nancys worried about who wears masks and who doesnt. You can go **** in your hat fear pornstar. Nobody needs to shut down because of covid. It is entirely ridiculous. If you are scared go home.
You dont' get it...not surprised. People do need to wear masks or this won't end. You are part of the problem.

I'm not worried about catching it. I'm young and in good shape. I'd get a sniffle for a few days and be done w/ it. I worry about morons like you not doing it, and it getting out of control to where the politicians won't have a choice. I don't want the economy to shut down. But the people in power won't have a choice if your dirty *** keeps going around and coughing on everyone.
 

NYC_Eer

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Like the "Protests" and rallies that took place in June/July/August?
I don't agree w/ much of what went on there, and I didn't attend any. But from what I saw most that were protesting were wearing masks...unlike Trump rallies.
 

dave

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You dont' get it...not surprised. People do need to wear masks or this won't end. You are part of the problem.

I'm not worried about catching it. I'm young and in good shape. I'd get a sniffle for a few days and be done w/ it. I worry about morons like you not doing it, and it getting out of control to where the politicians won't have a choice. I don't want the economy to shut down. But the people in power won't have a choice if your dirty *** keeps going around and coughing on everyone.
You are worried about me? Why dont you instead worry about minding your own fuking business? Who the *** are you to call me dirty? You live in a damned ********, not me.
 

NYC_Eer

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We have been eating inside resturaunts since June.
I guess you don't understand the concept of ratios. They must not have covered that in the 2 year "engineering" degree you got. The ratio of people that ate inside compared to outside has greatly shifted as the weather has changed.
 

dave

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I guess you don't understand the concept of ratios. They must not have covered that in the 2 year "engineering" degree you got. The ratio of people that ate inside compared to outside has greatly shifted as the weather has changed.
Not it hasnt. The places I eat indoors have the same number of people eating inside as they have had for months. Maybe you could study up on capacity.
 

WVUCOOPER

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I don't agree w/ much of what went on there, and I didn't attend any. But from what I saw most that were protesting were wearing masks...unlike Trump rallies.
Maybe, but masks aren't silver bullets. Those people were mostly not distanced and I sincerely doubt masks were worn at all times. Being outdoors does seem to help stifle the transmission, but it's dishonest to call some protestors out and not all.
 

WVUCOOPER

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I believe masks to be a false sense of security, depending on the mask , it may help in a small way ....
Wash your dang hands before you pee & after dont rub your face without washing your hands
Basically my point. Masks are but one tool of many, depending on situations. Large amounts of people think they are all that is needed (and some goofy places that they are needed) and large amounts of people think they are worthless. Both are wrong.
 

NYC_Eer

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Not it hasnt. The places I eat indoors have the same number of people eating inside as they have had for months. Maybe you could study up on capacity.
So, you think as many people eat outside once it gets cold as do when its warm? If so, you're a moron...well actually you are any way, but more so.
 

dave

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So, you think as many people eat outside once it gets cold as do when its warm? If so, you're a moron...well actually you are any way, but more so.
So you actually think the capacity inside a resturaunt changes due to the weather? You dont need to be calling anyone a moron.
 

NYC_Eer

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You are worried about me? Why dont you instead worry about minding your own fuking business? Who the *** are you to call me dirty? You live in a damned ********, not me.
I am certainly not worried about your health. I'm worried about you passing your **** around to everyone else.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Guess you didn't read my post. I said they've been eating OUTSIDE, which doesn't seem to be much of an issue, and now due to the weather they are eating INSIDE, which is obviously an easier way to spread COVID.

I capitalized the inside and outside words to make it easier to understand.
Maybe the overflow, but the insides have been pretty full all summer, here
 

dave

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I am certainly not worried about your health. I'm worried about you passing your **** around to everyone else.
Worry will kill you and that is awesome if worrying about me does the trick because you are wasting your time and your health.
 

mule_eer

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Did you really just compare a virus with a 99% survival rate to the war bond and rationing effort of WW2? Surely, of all people on this board, you, Mule, didn’t just make that asinine of a comparison. The Axis powers were an existential threat to the world. This virus is a nuisance unless you’re old and infirmed. Good lord man.
I compared the idea of sacrifice. That was major sacrifice. This one is relatively minor. If wearing a mask is such a huge imposition, imagine what gas rationing would do.

As for just the old and infirm, I know some folks who were neither and had real struggles getting past the virus. I know others who were barely impacted.
 

dave

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I compared the idea of sacrifice. That was major sacrifice. This one is relatively minor. If wearing a mask is such a huge imposition, imagine what gas rationing would do.

As for just the old and infirm, I know some folks who were neither and had real struggles getting past the virus. I know others who were barely impacted.
I think there is more than one thing out there hitting as positive for covid. One of them is killing people and making people very sick and the rest of them are cold strains. That is just my personal opinion.
 

mule_eer

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I think there is more than one thing out there hitting as positive for covid. One of them is killing people and making people very sick and the rest of them are cold strains. That is just my personal opinion.
I found out recently that a guy I worked with several years ago barely pulled through and has lingering effects. He's a swimmer and a runner with no underlying health conditions. He was in and out of the hospital for 30 days, and it took a 6th, experimental, treatment to bring him around.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I compared the idea of sacrifice. That was major sacrifice. This one is relatively minor. If wearing a mask is such a huge imposition, imagine what gas rationing would do.

As for just the old and infirm, I know some folks who were neither and had real struggles getting past the virus. I know others who were barely impacted.
The point that’s being lost I guess is that I don’t feel this is something that needs sacrifices to be made anymore. It certainly did in Mar and early Apr. Then we began learning how to effectively treat it. It’s a pointless sacrifice now which is why people are having an issue with it. There was never a question on fighting the Axis after Dec. 7th. It had to be done through any means possible and the country realized that. This, has a 99% survival rate. Hardly the same as a kamikaze or the luftwaffe.

Your comparison in my opinion was poor, at best.
 

bgregory74

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Lockdown until we have how many Covid cases per day? Or what amount of deaths per day? What’s the metric you’ll initially use...and then pull it away like Lucy pulling the football on Charlie Brown? When the economy is destroyed beyond recognition, then what? Print more money and give it away like you’re making it rain at a strip joint?
A faceless society where everyone is stripped of their individuality. Money spent will be tracked and you'll be given a government stipend that will do little more than pay your bills. Everyone will be compliant little minions. The days of free enterprise will be over. Competition will be depleted and only the big box stores will survive. The dollar will no go as far and life as we know it will be over.
 

NYC_Eer

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The point that’s being lost I guess is that I don’t feel this is something that needs sacrifices to be made anymore. It certainly did in Mar and early Apr. Then we began learning how to effectively treat it. It’s a pointless sacrifice now which is why people are having an issue with it. There was never a question on fighting the Axis after Dec. 7th. It had to be done through any means possible and the country realized that. This, has a 99% survival rate. Hardly the same as a kamikaze or the luftwaffe.

Your comparison in my opinion was poor, at best.
That isn't a honest point. Trumpers haven't just started to question it. They questioned it from the beginning. So, it wasn't like they hunkered down and masked up as a sacrifice then, but now are completely fed up.
 

bamaEER

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That isn't a honest point. Trumpers haven't just started to question it. They questioned it from the beginning. So, it wasn't like they hunkered down and masked up as a sacrifice then, but now are completely fed up.
Huge point here. Biff et al were dead set against protective measures from the beginning, to the point of mocking people who wore masks. They spent phase 1 in denial and didn't start playing along until case numbers started to soar.
 

mule_eer

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The point that’s being lost I guess is that I don’t feel this is something that needs sacrifices to be made anymore. It certainly did in Mar and early Apr. Then we began learning how to effectively treat it. It’s a pointless sacrifice now which is why people are having an issue with it. There was never a question on fighting the Axis after Dec. 7th. It had to be done through any means possible and the country realized that. This, has a 99% survival rate. Hardly the same as a kamikaze or the luftwaffe.

Your comparison in my opinion was poor, at best.
It seems like the evidence of the need for it is staring us in the face. Numbers of cases are way up, the hospitals are filling up. Medical staffs at those hospitals are working insane hours. The trend we are on is not sustainable. It's time take a step back, make a few short-term sacrifices again, so we can get back to normal sooner. The push back on that is what concerns me.

I'll agree that we've made advancements in how we treat patients, but we aren't where we need to be to act like this is nothing.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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That isn't a honest point. Trumpers haven't just started to question it. They questioned it from the beginning. So, it wasn't like they hunkered down and masked up as a sacrifice then, but now are completely fed up.
It wasn’t just Trump people questioning it, clearly, as it wasn’t Trump people out burning down cities this summer. And yea, pretty much everyone hunkered down back then.

Now, with a 99% survival rate, it’s pointless to hunker down.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Huge point here. Biff et al were dead set against protective measures from the beginning, to the point of mocking people who wore masks. They spent phase 1 in denial and didn't start playing along until case numbers started to soar.
Cases and deaths soared in NY, NJ, PA, MI, MA, and CA. And you’re blaming Trumpers? That’s hilarious. We spent phase 1 in states with very minimal impact, so yea, in our case, either we were the ones locking down and taking it seriously, or it didn’t have that much of an impact on our areas. There were states like ND and WY that had virtually zero cases, they didn’t need to lock down. It’s why leaving the decision making up to the states to respond and supplying them with what they needed was the proper COA.

I love how you all try to rewrite history.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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It seems like the evidence of the need for it is staring us in the face. Numbers of cases are way up, the hospitals are filling up. Medical staffs at those hospitals are working insane hours. The trend we are on is not sustainable. It's time take a step back, make a few short-term sacrifices again, so we can get back to normal sooner. The push back on that is what concerns me.

I'll agree that we've made advancements in how we treat patients, but we aren't where we need to be to act like this is nothing.
Agree to disagree. 99% survival rate. That’s what I’m pushing back on. And we’re not going to rehash the ******** last time about hospitals filling up. They aren’t.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Agree to disagree. 99% survival rate. That’s what I’m pushing back on. And we’re not going to rehash the ******** last time about hospitals filling up. They aren’t.
99% survival rate doesn't mean 0% hospital/healthcare resources usage.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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99% survival rate doesn't mean 0% hospital/healthcare resources usage.
No ****. Hospitals aren’t filling up. It’s as fake today as it was when it being pushed back in July. People see a stat that ICU beds are at 90% and freak out not understanding that they’re designed to be at that capacity and haven’t even begun to tap the reserves yet.
 

WVUCOOPER

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No ****. Hospitals aren’t filling up. It’s as fake today as it was when it being pushed back in July. People see a stat that ICU beds are at 90% and freak out not understanding that they’re designed to be at that capacity and haven’t even begun to tap the reserves yet.
lol. Carry on patriot.
 

Mntneer

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Agree to disagree. 99% survival rate. That’s what I’m pushing back on. And we’re not going to rehash the ******** last time about hospitals filling up. They aren’t.

I can tell you that while they are not filling up, there has been a substantial increase in patients. What my wife is seeing through her work, has her concerned about how things will look by mid January.