Oh, the irony...

NYC_Eer

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2010
10,631
48
0
Free Health Care for Illegals
Medicare for All
Anti-gun
Green New Deal supporter
Free college
Reparations

Yep, pretty moderate. SMH
  • Medicare - she backed off her earlier position. And before you say anything, Trump and every other politician do the same all the time.
  • Anti-gun - that isn't progressive at all. Many Dems are anti-gun.
  • The Green New Deal also isn't all that far left. It supports the reduction in greenhouse emissions and the creation of energy jobs. Just because AOC is on board doesn't make it socialist. Climate change is an obvious issue that needs to be addressed.
  • Free College - she didn't support Bernie's plan. She supports free community college and debt-free college for public schools. She never even provided a plan for what she supported. So, no she is not in favor of free college as you would like to describe it.
  • Reparation - She said she was in favor of studying it. Not implementing it. Its pure lip service. Reparations will never and can never be instituted.
So, no she's not a Progressive even though you and Breitbart want people to think so. I don't think she was the best pick. She's just OK, but she's definitely not far left.
 

DvlDog4WVU

All-Conference
Feb 2, 2008
47,251
3,328
113
  • Medicare - she backed off her earlier position. And before you say anything, Trump and every other politician do the same all the time.
  • Anti-gun - that isn't progressive at all. Many Dems are anti-gun.
  • The Green New Deal also isn't all that far left. It supports the reduction in greenhouse emissions and the creation of energy jobs. Just because AOC is on board doesn't make it socialist. Climate change is an obvious issue that needs to be addressed.
  • Free College - she didn't support Bernie's plan. She supports free community college and debt-free college for public schools. She never even provided a plan for what she supported. So, no she is not in favor of free college as you would like to describe it.
  • Reparation - She said she was in favor of studying it. Not implementing it. Its pure lip service. Reparations will never and can never be instituted.
So, no she's not a Progressive even though you and Breitbart want people to think so. I don't think she was the best pick. She's just OK, but she's definitely not far left.
So, you posted all of the above and actually believe it with a straight face. Fascinating.
 

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113
I think you'd be surprised how many African Americans have ancestors who were slave owners. It's not like it was uncommon for mixed race children to be born to female slaves back then.

Why are we fighting this war all over again more than 200 years later? no African Americans are 'slaves' unless they only vote Democrat, and we are the 'United States' of America are we not?
 

NYC_Eer

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2010
10,631
48
0
So, you posted all of the above and actually believe it with a straight face. Fascinating.
Yep, and I'm fascinated you believe your tripe. To be honest, I could give a ****. They raised $50M w/in 2 days of her being chosen. All the racist BS that Trump and the right wing tried to pin on her is going to backfire. There was no need to pick an African American as Biden has that group's vote all but assured, but the racism will turn off a lot of the educated suburban voters that took a shot on Trump last time...and who aren't going to this time. Many of them are women...not that they need another reason to not vote for Trump, but a woman VP certainly goes a long way.

No one gives a damn about who the VP is as long as the election is won, and this furthers the Dems toward that goal.
 

tOSUGrad90

Redshirt
Oct 19, 2015
7,341
0
0
Yep, and I'm fascinated you believe your tripe. To be honest, I could give a ****. They raised $50M w/in 2 days of her being chosen. All the racist BS that Trump and the right wing tried to pin on her is going to backfire. There was no need to pick an African American as Biden has that group's vote all but assured, but the racism will turn off a lot of the educated suburban voters that took a shot on Trump last time...and who aren't going to this time. Many of them are women...not that they need another reason to not vote for Trump, but a woman VP certainly goes a long way.

No one gives a damn about who the VP is as long as the election is won, and this furthers the Dems toward that goal.
Will you ever understand the difference between, "I could give a ****, and I couldn't give a ****?" Or, "I could care less, or I couldn't care less?" Ask for a refund of your college tuition.
 

WVUALLEN

All-American
Aug 4, 2009
72,763
5,576
113
I'm really confused. We shouldn't take down statues of Confederate leaders and generals because that's how we learn history. Those were folks who actually fought against the US. They actually made that choice, but those stay up. But you want to hold someone responsible for what one of their ancestors did 200 years ago?

I'm not trying to win you over to one side or the other. I'm likewise not saying that I think Harris is the best pick for Biden. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this logic.

History can be a fickle *****.
 

WVUALLEN

All-American
Aug 4, 2009
72,763
5,576
113
I think you'd be surprised how many African Americans have ancestors who were slave owners. It's not like it was uncommon for mixed race children to be born to female slaves back then.

So it's Ok for African Americans to own slaves. Little bit of hypocrisy no.
 

WVUALLEN

All-American
Aug 4, 2009
72,763
5,576
113
Yep, and I'm fascinated you believe your tripe. To be honest, I could give a ****. They raised $50M w/in 2 days of her being chosen. All the racist BS that Trump and the right wing tried to pin on her is going to backfire. There was no need to pick an African American as Biden has that group's vote all but assured, but the racism will turn off a lot of the educated suburban voters that took a shot on Trump last time...and who aren't going to this time. Many of them are women...not that they need another reason to not vote for Trump, but a woman VP certainly goes a long way.

No one gives a damn about who the VP is as long as the election is won, and this furthers the Dems toward that goal.

Joe Biden pressed to name a Black woman as his running mate.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

They will care when Biden becomes too senile to know what a white house is much less a president. Kamala Harris should be named president by about April.
 

30CAT

All-American
May 29, 2001
171,234
5,162
113
The Green New Deal also isn't all that far left.

What? LOL!! How brainwashed are you?

No fossil fuels would mean no coal, no oil, and no natural gas. And that would mean no cars and no airplanes. It would mean shutting down the single most vibrant part of the entire U.S. economy, which is the energy sector. It would mean putting at least six million Americans out of work immediately.

Electric vehicle manufacturing requires more energy and produces more emissions than manufacturing a conventional car because of the electric vehicles' batteries.

LOL!!! Almost forgot...No more hamburgers either. Well, cow fart.

You keep living that dream that big government is going to take care of you and save the world.

Delusional at best.
 

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113
Yep, and I'm fascinated you believe your tripe. To be honest, I could give a ****. They raised $50M w/in 2 days of her being chosen. All the racist BS that Trump and the right wing tried to pin on her is going to backfire. There was no need to pick an African American as Biden has that group's vote all but assured, but the racism will turn off a lot of the educated suburban voters that took a shot on Trump last time...and who aren't going to this time. Many of them are women...not that they need another reason to not vote for Trump, but a woman VP certainly goes a long way.

No one gives a damn about who the VP is as long as the election is won, and this furthers the Dems toward that goal.

You are a typical arrogant Leftist who thinks Black folks have no other choice except to vote for phony racists in the Democrat party. Yet I'll 100% guarantee you cannot outline what Biden and Harris' plan is for Blacks that tops Trump's agenda of economic empowerment through self sufficiency and you pretend as if no Blacks will vote for that agenda.

You are dead wrong on both accounts, and that's why you cannot offer any better agenda and you ignore the Black support Trump is set to receive which will be a record for any Republican President.
 
Last edited:

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113
What is moderate about Kamala Harris or anything Biden is promising? On taxes, abortion, energy, education, "climate change", there is nothing 'moderate' about any of their ideas.

In fact they are probably the most far Left group ever to head a Democrat ticket.
 

Gunny46

All-Conference
Jul 2, 2018
61,367
4,124
113
What is moderate about Kamala Harris or anything Biden is promising? On taxes, abortion, energy, education, "climate change", there is nothing 'moderate' about any of their ideas.

In fact they are probably the most far Left group ever to head a Democrat ticket.

Biden said the same thing.
 

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113
Biden said the same thing.

I don't see how they think they can fool voters they do not favor the most radical elements of their party's constituency. Who among them has denounced BLM? Antifa? AOC? Illihan Omar? (sp) Bernie Sanders?

Well they didn't want him as their candidate, but they have not rejected his agenda. Biden says he'll follow it! What was "moderate" about Bernie Sanders?

Good Lord!
 

DvlDog4WVU

All-Conference
Feb 2, 2008
47,251
3,328
113
Yep, and I'm fascinated you believe your tripe. To be honest, I could give a ****. They raised $50M w/in 2 days of her being chosen. All the racist BS that Trump and the right wing tried to pin on her is going to backfire. There was no need to pick an African American as Biden has that group's vote all but assured, but the racism will turn off a lot of the educated suburban voters that took a shot on Trump last time...and who aren't going to this time. Many of them are women...not that they need another reason to not vote for Trump, but a woman VP certainly goes a long way.

No one gives a damn about who the VP is as long as the election is won, and this furthers the Dems toward that goal.
So not only are blacks monolithic, but women are as well? You ought to hear the women in my circles talking about her. It might be a little eye-opening for you. You don’t quite understand I guess that the “wrong woman”, in her case and that of Hillary is damaging to what they want to see. They want to see a woman succeed on her merits and on her character, not on skin tone, not on just being a woman, and damn sure not one who slept her way into higher positions. These aren’t hill jack women I’m talking about. These are college educated 6-7 figure salary female executives in the power center of the country who consider it a slap in the face to all of the hard work and **** they had to put up with to succeed. That’s not even considering the fact that they recognize the gimmick pick for what it is and the insulting nature for which it’s assumed will be an affect. She’s popular amongst liberals, but then, you all have nothing but identity politics. There is no platform other than Not Trump and Orange man bad. Klobuchar was hands down the smart choice as she represents many of these hard working women. She’s even be palatable for many moderate conservatives. Good luck with Harris.
 

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113
Because all blacks think alike...You really do listen to Biden...literally...

He thinks Black Christians support Kamala Harris' and Biden's demand for on demand tax payer financed abortions with no restrictions.

There are more Black Congregations that are Pro Life than any other minority except Hispanics! The media doesn't tell you that, but they will also be voting Pro Life.
 

NYC_Eer

Redshirt
Aug 22, 2010
10,631
48
0
So not only are blacks monolithic, but women are as well? You ought to hear the women in my circles talking about her. It might be a little eye-opening for you. You don’t quite understand I guess that the “wrong woman”, in her case and that of Hillary is damaging to what they want to see. They want to see a woman succeed on her merits and on her character, not on skin tone, not on just being a woman, and damn sure not one who slept her way into higher positions. These aren’t hill jack women I’m talking about. These are college educated 6-7 figure salary female executives in the power center of the country who consider it a slap in the face to all of the hard work and **** they had to put up with to succeed. That’s not even considering the fact that they recognize the gimmick pick for what it is and the insulting nature for which it’s assumed will be an affect. She’s popular amongst liberals, but then, you all have nothing but identity politics. There is no platform other than Not Trump and Orange man bad. Klobuchar was hands down the smart choice as she represents many of these hard working women. She’s even be palatable for many moderate conservatives. Good luck with Harris.
You have zero proof of her sleeping her way to the top. That’s ridiculous. The rest I could give a **** about. Doesn’t matter. I don’t like the pick, but oh well. VPs do nothing any way.
 

DvlDog4WVU

All-Conference
Feb 2, 2008
47,251
3,328
113
You have zero proof of her sleeping her way to the top. That’s ridiculous. The rest I could give a **** about. Doesn’t matter. I don’t like the pick, but oh well. VPs do nothing any way.
When looking at this VP pick, it’s more than highly likely they’ll be stepping in to fill the role within a year or two if they’re elected. Biden’s mental capacity isn’t there anymore and it’s plain to see for anyone who watches him. It’s not just the routine gaffes, this guy is suffering from a severe mental decline. His behavior and speech is almost identical to my father’s, and I know how much slower he’s gotten. If it wasn’t for COVID, it’s be far more evident with him if he was on the campaign trail.

And are you serious about not believing the Willie Brown stuff? That’s hilarious.
 

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113
When looking at this VP pick, it’s more than highly likely they’ll be stepping in to fill the role within a year or two if they’re elected. Biden’s mental capacity isn’t there anymore and it’s plain to see for anyone who watches him. It’s not just the routine gaffes, this guy is suffering from a severe mental decline. His behavior and speech is almost identical to my father’s, and I know how much slower he’s gotten. If it wasn’t for COVID, it’s be far more evident with him if he was on the campaign trail.

And are you serious about not believing the Willie Brown stuff? That’s hilarious.

Truth and Leftists have never been friends
 

Pospecteer

All-Conference
Dec 8, 2006
36,507
3,172
113
He thinks Black Christians support Kamala Harris' and Biden's demand for on demand tax payer financed abortions with no restrictions.

There are more Black Congregations that are Pro Life than any other minority except Hispanics! The media doesn't tell you that, but they will also be voting Pro Life.

I agree. You can really see the left's racism showing bigly in this election cycle.
 

30CAT

All-American
May 29, 2001
171,234
5,162
113
I agree. You can really see the left's racism showing bigly in this election cycle.

Yup...Racist Joe proves to the world he is racist and Knee Pads comes from a family of racists who had huge plantations.

Brainwashed leftist voters are deaf and blind, yelling "Go team D!"

They have no clue.

The Party of Hate....That's today's left.
 

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113
Yup...Racist Joe proves to the world he is racist and Knee Pads comes from a family of racists who had huge plantations.

Brainwashed leftist voters are deaf and blind, yelling "Go team D!"

They have no clue.

The Party of Hate....That's today's left.

They hate the unborn and Blacks who "aren't Black" by not voting for Democrats.
 

30CAT

All-American
May 29, 2001
171,234
5,162
113
They hate the unborn and Blacks who "aren't Black" by not voting for Democrats.

"Stop telling people you're black, atlkvb. You know as well as I do, you're voting for Trump. You're not fooling anyone."
 

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113
"Stop telling people you're black, atlkvb. You know as well as I do, you're voting for Trump. You're not fooling anyone."

I promise I'm not applying for reparations, but I'm more Black than Joe Biden will ever get!
 

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113


Hey creepy Joe, so if I vote for Trump instead of for you will you put me back in chains or let me go because I changed races?
 

MountaineerWV

Sophomore
Sep 18, 2007
26,324
194
0
First of all the confederates were not fighting against the US they were fighting for their right to separate. So now I am confused, do you believe that if a woman thinks their husband is abusive and decides that she wants a divorce that the husband has a right to beat her into submission, steal everything she owns and then take away every spousal rights she has for the next 15 years. Fact is that is what you believe and you're to stupid or ignorant to realise they are the same thing.

Please......for the Love of God.......STOP. When you "try to separate" from the United States, you are FIGHTING the United States.
 

WVURobinHood

Redshirt
Aug 25, 2013
2,154
9
0
Yep, and I'm fascinated you believe your tripe. To be honest, I could give a ****. They raised $50M w/in 2 days of her being chosen. All the racist BS that Trump and the right wing tried to pin on her is going to backfire. There was no need to pick an African American as Biden has that group's vote all but assured, but the racism will turn off a lot of the educated suburban voters that took a shot on Trump last time...and who aren't going to this time. Many of them are women...not that they need another reason to not vote for Trump, but a woman VP certainly goes a long way.

No one gives a damn about who the VP is as long as the election is won, and this furthers the Dems toward that goal.

Imagine being okay with this line of thought.....Its so disgusting and you spew it out for all to read... What a corrupted rotten soul you have...just ugly and you walk around infecting all you come into contact....
 

Gunny46

All-Conference
Jul 2, 2018
61,367
4,124
113
While there may not be large numbers of card-carrying communists lining the halls of Congress, there is a clear tie between the Democratic Party's Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).


It really boils down to marketing. In marketing, many times the same product is given a different name or label in order to increase its appeal to certain groups. Names are sometimes changed due to the product's connection to other products, or the public's association to a prior name.


Although Progressive share much in common with CPUSA and DSA, they are shrewd enough to understand the terms "communist" or "socialist" are unpalatable for most Americans. Hence, the word "Progressive" was injected into American political verbiage. While the words are not interchangeable, one thing is for sure: The CPC is doing its part to further the goals of modern Communists and Socialists who have found a voice in the Democratic Party.
 

atlkvb

All-American
Jul 9, 2004
82,717
6,320
113

See @WVURobinHood moe thinks Black folks who don't vote for racist Democrats like Joe Biden aren't really Black, but all Blacks who do vote for racist Democrats are "stragglers" who should "think alike" and deserve our respect.

I didn't say all Blacks think alike atl, I just said President "my boss" was the first 'clean and articulate' Negro I'd ever seen. He was a 'story book' Man!

So you didn't think any Blacks were clean or articulate before 'ya met Zero is that right racist creepy Joe?

Uh, 'ya may have a point there atl....