And the expected Gary Patterson response..

lostinthelight

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There's been a lot of concern on this board about "when is this going to end?" "The players are in charge now!"

I think this situation answers that question. Like many things in life it takes someone making a mistake and going overboard to bring everything back into alignment. This TCU player over played his hand and hopefully learned a good lesson.

At this point I'm sure most players clearly know that airing frustrations on social media brings about a whole set of other problems that will not be worth dealing with outside of very extreme situations.

These things have a way of naturally finding a resting point. We're seeing it here already.
 
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Tre'von Moehrig:

 

Christian96

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It’s almost like these athletes and their thumbs are a ticking time bomb.
 

Pospecteer

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There's been a lot of concern on this board about "when is this going to end?" "The players are in charge now!"

I think this situation answers that question. Like many things in life it takes someone making a mistake and going overboard to bring everything back into alignment. This TCU player over played his hand and hopefully learned a good lesson.

At this point I'm sure most players clearly know that airing frustrations on social media brings about a whole set of other problems that will not be worth dealing with outside of very extreme situations.

These things have a way of naturally finding a resting point. We're seeing it here already.

How? The coach had to apologize for correcting a player for using the exact word he used? Are we in kindergarten...coaches have to speak in code now. I guess the coach not being fired is a victory? If this is the new normal, we are doomed as a society...
 

Raven Shaddock

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How? The coach had to apologize for correcting a player for using the exact word he used? Are we in kindergarten...coaches have to speak in code now. I guess the coach not being fired is a victory? If this is the new normal, we are doomed as a society...
If you want to see the depths of hypocrisy, look no further than the anti-abortion protesters who just got arrested for writing in CHALK.

Rioting is OK. Destruction is OK. Attacking the police is OK. Writing BLM on everything without a permit is OK. Arson is OK. Molotov cocktails are OK. Violence is OK.

Writing in chalk about pre-born Black Lives Matter is criminal.
 

Pospecteer

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If you want to see the depths of hypocrisy, look no further than the anti-abortion protesters who just got arrested for writing in CHALK.

Rioting is OK. Destruction is OK. Attacking the police is OK. Writing BLM on everything without a permit is OK. Arson is OK. Molotov cocktails are OK. Violence is OK.

Writing in chalk about pre-born Black Lives Matter is criminal.

That was a mockery of justice. It's funny, but I have been hanging on the off topic board because sports is getting boring...and now the OT board is where all sports discussion will be moving forward...I guess I'm ahead of the curve....

I was talking to another AD at another school. I asked him what he would allow on the jerseys of the school...he could not answer, but he make it very clear that the school will not spend a penny in buying or putting anything other than the name of the player on their jersey.
 

Raven Shaddock

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That was a mockery of justice. It's funny, but I have been hanging on the off topic board because sports is getting boring...and now the OT board is where all sports discussion will be moving forward...I guess I'm ahead of the curve....

I was talking to another AD at another school. I asked him what he would allow on the jerseys of the school...he could not answer, but it make it very clear that the school will not spend a penny in buying or putting anything other than the name of the player on their jersey.

There is good news.

The double standards are going to get sorted out soon enough.

I'd never choose a short-term "win" for long-term (and that's putting it mildly) loss.
 

WVU enginEER

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There's been a lot of concern on this board about "when is this going to end?" "The players are in charge now!"

I think this situation answers that question. Like many things in life it takes someone making a mistake and going overboard to bring everything back into alignment. This TCU player over played his hand and hopefully learned a good lesson.

At this point I'm sure most players clearly know that airing frustrations on social media brings about a whole set of other problems that will not be worth dealing with outside of very extreme situations.

These things have a way of naturally finding a resting point. We're seeing it here already.

Until the funding - from those who disagree - dries up. Good luck finding a free education in the future.
 

Pospecteer

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There is good news.

The double standards are going to get sorted out soon enough.

I'd never choose a short-term "win" for long-term (and that's putting it mildly) loss.

I wish I could agree with you...it will be glossed over until the media sees another squirrel to chase.
 

WVU enginEER

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If you want to see the depths of hypocrisy, look no further than the anti-abortion protesters who just got arrested for writing in CHALK.

Rioting is OK. Destruction is OK. Attacking the police is OK. Writing BLM on everything without a permit is OK. Arson is OK. Molotov cocktails are OK. Violence is OK.

Writing in chalk about pre-born Black Lives Matter is criminal.

When DeBlowsio painted BLM on the street of NYC, he violated federal law, which regulates pavement markings on all public streets and road. What he did could actually cause an accident or pedestrian to get killed, especially considering that he painted over other traffic control pavement markings.

"Black Lives Matter" painted on a street is not a federally recognized traffic control device.
 
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lostinthelight

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How? The coach had to apologize for correcting a player for using the exact word he used? Are we in kindergarten...coaches have to speak in code now. I guess the coach not being fired is a victory? If this is the new normal, we are doomed as a society...

Yes...we are doomed as a society because we are all being asked to respect each others opinions and feelings. Oh the horror!!!

The endless bellyaching on this board/thread is a great example of the very softiosis you claim to dislike.
 

Pospecteer

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Yes...we are doomed as a society because we are all being asked to respect each others opinions and feelings. Oh the horror!!!

The endless bellyaching on this board/thread is a great example of the very softiosis you claim to dislike.

I never claimed anything...I am for "equality for all"...now we have a whole vocabulary that can only be used by a certain ethnic group...if a non "place ethnic group here" use one of those words...you can lose you livelihood...does it feel like we are making progress?
 

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I never claimed anything...I am for "equality for all"...now we have a whole vocabulary that can only be used by a certain ethnic group...if a non "place ethnic group here" use one of those words...you can lose you livelihood...does it feel like we are making progress?

He's a member of the red rose group.
 

lostinthelight

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I never claimed anything...I am for "equality for all"...now we have a whole vocabulary that can only be used by a certain ethnic group...if a non "place ethnic group here" use one of those words...you can lose you livelihood...does it feel like we are making progress?

If you can't see the fact that no word in our society is as uniquely controversial as the n word you're blind.

Projecting this situation as a huge societal issue is alarmist. There is no other word like that word.
 

dedhoops24

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If you want to see the depths of hypocrisy, look no further than the anti-abortion protesters who just got arrested for writing in CHALK.

Rioting is OK. Destruction is OK. Attacking the police is OK. Writing BLM on everything without a permit is OK. Arson is OK. Molotov cocktails are OK. Violence is OK.

Writing in chalk about pre-born Black Lives Matter is criminal.

Hey, why don’t you take all this energy that you put into saying the same things over and over but in cryptic and witty ways and focus on something similar......like the drug and opioid death rate in WV being twice as high as any other state in this country, but with a population of only 1.8 million. White population is 94% so why don’t you focus on this same exact problem where you live instead of handing out advice to people who live in much different environments.....

White people are killing themselves at a huge rate in West Virginia......
 

Pospecteer

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If you can't see the fact that no word in our society is as uniquely controversial as the n word you're blind.

Projecting this situation as a huge societal issue is alarmist. There is no other word like that word.

No other word in the history of a society can be used to describe:
  • A friend
  • a gangster
  • a foe
  • as an adjective or noun
  • family member
  • other...
On the flip side, anyone not included in the specific ethnic group cannot repeat the word even if they are quoting someone (of that ethnic group) that used that word and is violation of team rules. There are famous poems and songs that contain that word and only one ethnic group can ever sing it or repeat it....if this is not a slippery slope for society, I don't know what is.
 

lostinthelight

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No other word in the history of a society can be used to describe:
  • A friend
  • a gangster
  • a foe
  • as an adjective or noun
  • family member
  • other...
On the flip side, anyone not included in the specific ethnic group cannot repeat the word even if they are quoting someone (of that ethnic group) that used that word and is violation of team rules. There are famous poems and songs that contain that word and only one ethnic group can ever sing it or repeat it....if this is not a slippery slope for society, I don't know what is.

Well...if black folks didn't suffer from 250 years of slavery, legislated discrimination, Jim Crow laws, red lining and good old fashioned racism i might agree with you.

The experience of blacks in America has been uniquely terrible...I'm going to give them a little wiggle room on the n word.

If there's a slippery slope it's on the road to equality. And its historicaly been greased by us white folks.
 

Pospecteer

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Hey, why don’t you take all this energy that you put into saying the same things over and over but in cryptic and witty ways and focus on something similar......like the drug and opioid death rate in WV being twice as high as any other state in this country, but with a population of only 1.8 million. White population is 94% so why don’t you focus on this same exact problem where you live instead of handing out advice to people who live in much different environments.....

White people are killing themselves at a huge rate in West Virginia......

I will say this, the new BOD member for WVU was in charge of the opioid task force that included WV, lets hope she gets it under control.
 

Pospecteer

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Well...if black folks didn't suffer from 250 years of slavery, legislated discrimination, Jim Crow laws, red lining and good old fashioned racism i might agree with you.

The experience of blacks in America has been uniquely terrible...I'm going to give them a little wiggle room on the n word.

If there's a slippery slope it's on the road to equality. And its historicaly been greased by us white folks.

Agreed, the Democratic party has really hurt them...that being said, many minorities don't agree with how some are representing them...and it's not wiggle room...it's trying to take someone's career away for repeating a word that the person used....against team policy.
 

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These MUST be fixed in a manner where NOBODY looses and both parties gain. What WE did is unacceptable.
 

lostinthelight

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Agreed, the Democratic party has really hurt them...that being said, many minorities don't agree with how some are representing them...and it's not wiggle room...it's trying to take someone's career away for repeating a word that the person used....against team policy.

"Agreed, the Democratic party has really hurt them"

If this is where you need to go...ignoring the last 60 years...you're no longer debating in good faith.

My main point still stands. While this specific situation has elements of irony and hypocrisy your point that it symbolizes an existential problem for the nation at large is not true.

As a nation we are still working toward a more perfect union and these situations are all part of this process we have the responsibility to continue.

In my mind we need to be more concerned about righting historical wrongs than getting hung up on these relatively small issues.
 

indyrockstar

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Patterson, shouldn't apologize. That word has so much hypocrisy to it. Blacks throw it around but get butthurt if a white person says it. Even if the white person is stating not to use the word. Makes total sense...
 

Pospecteer

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"Agreed, the Democratic party has really hurt them"

If this is where you need to go...ignoring the last 60 years...you're no longer debating in good faith.

My main point still stands. While this specific situation has elements of irony and hypocrisy your point that it symbolizes an existential problem for the nation at large is not true.

As a nation we are still working toward a more perfect union and these situations are all part of this process we have the responsibility to continue.

In my mind we need to be more concerned about righting historical wrongs than getting hung up on these relatively small issues.

I am really curious how you are going to "right" historical wrongs? And to keep it on topic, how is WVU supposed to address this injustice...
 

MikeIII

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Coach reprimands player for using the n-word. Coach quotes said player during the aforementioned reprimand. Coach must then apologize for the quote of the offensive term, but the player need not apologize for the actual use of the offensive term? SMH.