Not sure why but the first thing I thought of upon reading your post is Kirk Hermstreit...
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Not sure why but the first thing I thought of upon reading your post is Kirk Hermstreit...
Exactly. Someone has too much time on their hands. Although searching for Trump memes and gifs must take up a lot of time. For anyone that thinks someone w/ an image of Trump in a super hero costume posting about Kaepernick didn't mean to be political has their head in the sand. He saw something w/ Ollie's name attached to this, and jumped at the chance to troll the board.OP:
So there is it is in black and white . You are going to be against anything I post because of Trump in my avatar. That was the Troll all along , I knew people’s head would explode when I chose that avatar. I’m a Bernie supporter by the way
JK no I’m not ..
When families come to our borders seeking asylum they are not entering our country illegally.
You may not believe Russia has and is continuing to mess with our elections but our entire intelligence community does.
Russia needs useful idiots blindly loyal to the president to make what they are doing work. Vlad is proud of your help on that. Good job!
You might need to educate yourself on what constitutes grounds for asylum. And I agree, seeking asylum is not a crime. They’re certainly capable of seeking asylum at designated points of entry, and that’s not “surprise! I’m here, i want asylum”. If they follow the process, immigrate legally, I’m 100% for them coming here. If they follow the process and seek asylum correctly, and are awarded such, I’m 100% in favor of it. I’m 100% opposed to gaming the system.
If you want facts, >80% who seek asylum aren’t qualified for it. The uptick in asylum seekers happened to coincide with our ceasing the catch and release policy. The asylum angle was a strategy being coached by Liberal immigrant advocacy groups meant to overwhelm our immigration system and create an inability to process them in a timely manner thus allowing them to go free into the interior pending adjudication which they don’t show up for. Throw in the “sanctuary city” angle, it creates a haven for them to run to. The democratic strategy behind this was increasing population into states which are predominantly democratic for the census to allow for an increase in elected representatives and funding for those states. Obviously, they’re also banking on additional illegal voters that “doesn’t ever happen”, laughable.
I’m a parent like many of these “asylum seekers” claim to be. Personally, I’d never put my children in a situation like that. That’s not to mention the ones that are sold to the cartels to assist in the human trafficking. I’d never intentionally use my children as props which could see them suffer.
I’m curious, and I ask this a lot for people who take the angle of “they’re just looking for a better life.” Why are you ok with exploiting illegals for cheap labor? Why are you ok with illegals being exploited by the cartels and murdered en masse as necessary? That’s what you’re arguing for unless you’re advocating for open borders. If it’s the latter, you’re just seditious.
We’re under zero obligation or have any responsibility to other nation’s citizenry. We likely disagree on that point and it’s fine.
Russia has been doing it since long before you all became woke to it. This is laughable. So are a lot of countries. As a matter of fact, there was quite the cabal by the 5 eyes in the last election as we’re learning. Politico even did a report on Ukraine that gets conveniently glossed over.
We interfere a lot in other countries elections as well.
No doubt you are a devout conservative on this topic at least. I would want to point out a few things.
I disagree strenuously with the idea that the left's stance on immigration is driven by the desire to gain voting population and census counts in some states. It's a humanitarian issue. What you are claiming I see as a paranoid right wing fantasy. Its about caring for human beings.
The idea that voter fraud is a problem is an even more far out fantasy. It just doesn't happen on any scale other than a rare individual doing something stupid. The simple logistics of large scale voter fraud and thousands of people voting illegally is unrealistic given any serious examination.
You have no idea of the situation these parents are trying to get out of. You cant make that judgement. I'm not clear on how the children would become props. They are real people facing real hardship. You may look at them as pawns but I see them as human beings in need.
Your questions about exploiting cheap labor and families are based on a false premise. And saying anything different than your view is "open borders" is a false choice. Having a more robust immigration system would alleviate these issues...not make them worse like current policy.
As far as our responsibility to non-citizens...this is where I'm guided by my Christian upbringing. For me personally it is my responsibility to welcome those in need. I'm sure we wont find a middle ground here.
The thing I like about you is you're honest. You're attitude towards others is...F'em...not my problem. I hate the sentiment but respect your willingness to stick to it. Too many people want to act like they care for others while supporting those who advocate for policies that dont care for people.
You and me wont be canvassing for the same candidate anytime soon.
I dont mean this in a flippant way but...do you know that the arguments you are making is the exact argument Russia needs people in this country to make for them to be successful in damaging us?
They need people in this country to believe the Ukraine ********. They need people here to make excuses for terrible behavior in our leaders and ignore the evidence in front of us?
You are a "useful idiot" doing our enemies bidding.
The loyalty to a man and his political party above our principles is scary. I've never been so fearful for our democracy.
If only there was a place to discuss these topics.
https://westvirginia.forums.rivals.com/forums/off-topic-discussion-board.12/
Lol. I’m quoting the Politico article.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
I’m not disputing Russia’s attempts to interfere in our elections. It’s been happening since the Bolshevik revolution. The quoted interference in our last election by the ICs were Facebook ad buys that our IC said didn’t have a meaningful impact either way. They did say their attempts were favoring Trump. The obvious reason for this is everything we’ve been seeing for the last 3 years. The left’s complete unwillingness to losing an election and a rejection of their platform to the scale of accepting a repugnant person like Trump. It’s an indictment of how much the progressive movement has lost their way. You all haven’t accepted it, and the politicians that represent your beliefs needed a boogeyman so as to not cause the “resistance” to lose hope. The righteous belief of the left’s moral and educated superiority couldn’t possibly believe that they were just soundly rejected. The left’s behavior was the exact objective of Russia. You’re literally letting them succeed by your very actions.
It’s funny, you claim fear for our nation. This is the first time in over a decade I’ve had hope for our nation. Finally an administration that cares and makes policy for the entirety of a nation. One designed to lift all boats, not just select special interests. The last 3 years of focusing on economic success for all, and not having to **** around with discussions on bathrooms and cake baking have been amazing. The left’s positions in the previous administration were politically designed to create divisiveness.
I can assure you I’m not an idiot, useful or otherwise. I simply disagree with the platform of the left. I’ve read every word on every page of the Mueller report, the IC testimony, Horowitz’s multiple reports, every second of his testimony on the Hill in both houses, read every document released by Nunes and Schiff, and followed the entire impeachment charade. I’ve been eviscerating the left on the OT board and am happy to do the same with you. You all have been consistently lied to by those you support as evidenced by the testimonies on the Hill by Mueller and Horowitz. But we’re the idiots. Never get tired of the supposed intellectual and moral superiority of the left these days. It’s going to make Nov so much sweeter.
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Because the left doesn’t try to drive wedges on racial issues, do they? It’s so humanitarian that you all conduct policy initiatives that see cartels butcher these people like cattle as necessary. Such a humanitarian issue that the left’s policy literally condemns millions of minorities to a half step above slavery type conditions through their exploitation.
Then you all should be fine with enacting vote ID, but, according to you all, the minorities are too dumb to find a DMV, yet, illegals can somehow get drivers licenses now. Hahahhaa
How do I not know the conditions? I’ve literally been in every country in Central and South America. I have teams all over the place down there. I’ve also worked in conjunction with the what used to be known as JTF-6 and the DEA conducting border enforcement and drug interdiction missions. I also stay fairly on top of cartel operations and human trafficking stuff.
Your leading candidate is literally spewing rhetoric about abolishing ICE. And that exploitation is real, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. It’s the actual byproduct of what the left’s policies are doing.
If you truly brain washed if you don't think these immigrants are not being used. My wife managed a 26 room B&B in a very liberal artsy weekender town between NYC and Philly. The owner ( Huge liberal) would bring young girls in the US to work for him...he referred to them as family. They lived in his apartments and he took the rent 1st and then paid them the difference which was enough to live paycheck to paycheck. Once a year, a man from Mexico would spend a week at the B&B. He was like a god. The Mexican staff actually bowed to him when he walked into the room. My son, who worked at another very liberal 4* restaurant said he showed up for dinner one night and met with the owner, who used illegals for kitchen help. Same thing, they bowed down to him when he walked in.
We later found out that this man was the handler for the illegals. He ran it like a labor union, if you had a problem with any of them, you called his local handler and they removed them from work and placed them elsewhere or worse. You had to pay him for every illegal that you used. He had at least 150 workers in a small town on 2000 working in the establishments.
And let's not talk about what else these owners made these women do...he was a creeper.
what most people don't realize is though kapernick plays the poor boy race card he was actually raised by an affluent white family........kind of like rachel dolezal...aka KKKuntry
you are way out of your league here....you are obviously a member of the "free stuff" club......and if you think voter fraud doesn't happen then you have never lived in West Virginia....
how would you know....you see everything thru the haze of a liquor bottle[cheers][cheers]
Lol, great comeback Potts! I'm just here laughing at donnies defenders, wish I could drink at work though, are you a teetotaler like ya hero? real men drink beer don't they? he is a good look on ya, keep up the good work, that base is gonna be yuuuuuge! When does he pivot to the independents? lmfao