Funny how K States new coach

[Buckaineer]

Its simply amazing the low level of intelligence that flocks here— people who simply cannot come out of fantasyland and want to try to bully others into believing their made up b.s. so they fit in with troll group think.

facts are facts- The previous staff had WVU on the verge of greatness, the new coach has WVU starting over as though a down of football has never been played before and is obviously learning on the job.

 

[WVUFanForever]

facts are facts- The previous staff had WVU on the verge of greatness, .

7-6 is greatness for ole Bucky.....LMAO....you can't even troll the right way anymore.

 

[WVUALLEN]

7-6 is greatness for ole Bucky.....LMAO....you can't even troll the right way anymore.

He doesn't understand he or it is smacking themselves. Greg should know better.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Lol welcome to the antics of the freeboard. Watch where you step when you walk back to the blue lot. Piles of **** everywhere.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

7-6 is greatness for ole Bucky.....LMAO....you can't even troll the right way anymore.

Always the site mall cop haha.

 

[WVUFanForever]

Always the site mall cop haha.

I thought that was your role calling out homers...Is it not?

You really need to remember what your gimmick is here and stick with it.

 

[HSVMountie]

Lol welcome to the antics of the freeboard. Watch where you step when you walk back to the blue lot. Piles of **** everywhere.

When I was posting I didn’t even realize I was on the free board. I must’ve hit the wrong button somewhere there.

 

[Buckaineer]

7-6 is greatness for ole Bucky.....LMAO....you can't even troll the right way anymore.

WvU was on the verge of playing for the BIG 12 CCG last year and were in the conversation for the playoff until late in the season.

Where is WVU now under this new coach, less than a season later?

and they won more than 7 idiot— if you are going to try to troll at least get it right. Won 10 twice— last time 3 seasons ago.

Now? Might have 8 losses. Maybe 9 ! How can anyone pretend that is "better"?

 

[WVUALLEN]

last year

I edited your post. It shows the only intelligent quote portion.

 

[Spreading Eagle 74]

WvU was on the verge of playing for the BIG 12 CCG last year and were in the conversation for the playoff until late in the season.

Where is WVU now under this new coach, less than a season later?

and they won more than 7 idiot— if you are going to try to troll at least get it right. Won 10 twice— last time 3 seasons ago.

Now? Might have 8 losses.

Last year Wvu had Grier, Sills and Jennings this year they don't. Last year Dana had a loaded team but he choked against Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. A good coach would have won those games. Neal Brown was a play away from beating the 12th ranked team in the country. If Dana was still coach he would have lost by 3 Touchdowns easily.

 

[WVUFanForever]

WvU was on the verge of playing for the BIG 12 CCG last year and were in the conversation for the playoff until late in the season.

Where is WVU now under this new coach, less than a season later?

and they won more than 7 idiot— if you are going to try to troll at least get it right. Won 10 twice— last time 3 seasons ago.

Now? Might have 8 losses.

I was on the verge of sleeping with Kate Upton then I woke up......on the verge...LMAO...since when did being on the verge count for anything?

What a **** you are.

 

[Buckaineer]

Last year Wvu had Grier, Sills and Jennings this year they don't. Last year Dana had a loaded team but he choked against Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. A good coach would have won those games. Neal Brown was a play away from beating the 12th ranked team in the country. If Dana was still coach he would have lost by 3 Touchdowns easily.

and yet another part of the conversation which shows lack of reasoning. Oklahoma is ELITE. They played for the national championship with THREE OTHER TEAMS in the national playoff. WVU lost by 3 pts. to that team.

Against this Baylor team Holgorsen just last year won 58-14. Brown LOST and gave up more points. To pretend Holgorsen would have lost shows you have 0 knowledge of football.

They didn't "choke" against OSU and Oklahoma, their athletes, more highly regarded than what Holgorsen had to work with--BEAT WVU. Because they were BETTER that day--but not by much. It happens when you play against the best competition WVU ever faced in a league often regarded as the toughest in the nation top to bottom. Some of you still seem to think WVU was playing in the AAC under Holgorsen, while BROWN is playing in the NFL.

You also fail to mention Brown hasn't defeated a ranked team yet, and was blown out against every decent to good team WVU faced prior to Baylor.

 

[Buckaineer]

I was on the verge of sleeping with Kate Upton then I woke up......on the verge...LMAO...since when did being on the verge count for anything?

What a **** you are.

**** ="tough guy WVUFF"

Your personal attack shows what an absolute dimwit you are--and that you are a troll.

 

[WVUFanForever]

**** ="tough guy WVUFF"

Your personal attack shows what an absolute dimwit you are--and that you are a troll.

I was on the verge of reading your post.

 

[spartansstink]

I was on the verge of reading your post.

Don't bother.

If you've read his first one, you've read this one. The same emotionally unstable rantings of a perpetual 2 year old mentality.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

can take lower ranked players, lots of JUCOs, and in his first year win at Mississippi State and beat Oklahoma.

Now that is a real coach.

It tells me K State’s previous coach was a helluva lot better than WVU’s previous coach at getting talent and depth.

WVU’s previous coach is now 3-6 with a lot of talent supplied by Houston’s previous coach, including a Heisman candidate at quarterback.

 

[Buckaineer]

BIG 12 recruiting rankings:

2018
WVU-#6 (B12)----nationally #35
Kansas State-#9 (B12)----nationally #66

2017
WVU-#8 (B12)----nationally #57
Kansas State-#9 (B12)----nationally #61

2016
WVU-#4 (B12)----nationally #39
Kansas State-#10 (B12)----nationally #72

So NO, KSU's former coach was not recruiting better than Holgorsen--what it shows is some people have an agenda to defame Holgorsen at all costs no matter what.

Facts matter. Brown was left with better players than KSU and has duped you into believing WVU needed a complete rebuild as though they never played a down of football.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

BIG 12 recruiting rankings:

2018
WVU-#6 (B12)----nationally #35
Kansas State-#9 (B12)----nationally #66

2017
WVU-#8 (B12)----nationally #57
Kansas State-#9 (B12)----nationally #61

2016
WVU-#4 (B12)----nationally #39
Kansas State-#10 (B12)----nationally #72

So NO, KSU's former coach was not recruiting better than Holgorsen--what it shows is some people have an agenda to defame Holgorsen at all costs no matter what.

Facts matter. Brown was left with better players than KSU and has duped you into believing WVU needed a complete rebuild as though they never played a down of football.

Holgorsen sucks. They make fun of him on tv. He is an embarrassment to Houston. Glad he’s gone.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Holgorsen sucks. They make fun of him on tv. He is an embarrassment to Houston. Glad he’s gone.

You're doubling down on stupidity, CountryBumpkin. Bucky crushed your lame argument with facts, and you responded with your opinions. No, Kansas State's coach was not left with a full cupboard, as KSU does not recruit at a high level.

 

[Spreading Eagle 74]

and yet another part of the conversation which shows lack of reasoning. Oklahoma is ELITE. They played for the national championship with THREE OTHER TEAMS in the national playoff. WVU lost by 3 pts. to that team.

Against this Baylor team Holgorsen just last year won 58-14. Brown LOST and gave up more points. To pretend Holgorsen would have lost shows you have 0 knowledge of football.

They didn't "choke" against OSU and Oklahoma, their athletes, more highly regarded than what Holgorsen had to work with--BEAT WVU. Because they were BETTER that day--but not by much. It happens when you play against the best competition WVU ever faced in a league often regarded as the toughest in the nation top to bottom. Some of you still seem to think WVU was playing in the AAC under Holgorsen, while BROWN is playing in the NFL.

You also fail to mention Brown hasn't defeated a ranked team yet, and was blown out against every decent to good team WVU faced prior to Baylor.

Oklahoma state was a weak football team they were 6-6 last season. Wvu has put more players in the pros then Oklahoma state has. Oklahoma was a joke they had one of the worst defenses in college football last season and got exposed as a fraud in the playoff. A competent coach who had Grier,sills and Jennings would have beaten Oklahoma hands down at home last season. Dana choked which he made a habit of doing in his 8 years at wvu. when Wvu beat Baylor last year they Had Grier,Sills and Jennings plus the game was at home. Where was Grier,sills and jennings on Thursday night against Baylor? If Dana was here who would be taking the place of those 3 players name them? Last year when Wvu played Syracuse grier wasn't there and what happened? They got beat by a weak Syracuse team. BTW whats Syracuse record this year? Since last year is relevant to this year in your noggin this line of logic is relevant.

 

[WVUALLEN]

On the verge of greatness!

Competing for Big 12 title then...
Oklahoma State - L 45-41
Oklahoma L - 59-56
Syracuse - L 34-18

Texas - L 28-14
Oklahoma - L 59-31
Utah - L 30-14

Oklahoma - L 56-28
Miami - L 31-14

OCTOBER 2015
Oklahoma - L 44-24
Oklahoma State - L 33-26
Baylor - L 62-38
TCU - L 40-10

November
TCU - L 31-30
Texas - L 33-16
Kansas State - L 26-20

Big 12 - Greatness
4-8 (2-7)
7-6 (4-5)
7-6 (5-4)
8-5 (4-5)
10-3 (7-2) By far his best year in Big 12. Had a legit job at getting Big 12 title. Choked.
7-6 (5-4)
8-4 (6-3) Very good team competing for Big 12 title. Choked again.

Greatness 33-30 Big 12 record.

Skylar Howard won more games than Will Grier.

 

[SeronimusPratt]

Heard from a reliable source that Buckaineer was banned from the 247 board. Not sure if true but he also bragged about owning Vernon in some post on there too.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

He doesn't understand he or it is smacking themselves. Greg should know better.

Just realized my mistake Allen and took my like away. Clearly I was drinking.

 

[Buckaineer]

Brown has been awful so far at WVU.

The morons who pushed the second winningest coach out don't want to admit how wrong they were about how difficult it was to win at WVU and how good of a job the previous coach had done in WINNING GAMES for WVU.

Because they don't understand major college football and are simpletons, they libeled, whined, railed, attacked night and day--ensuring WVU lost many recruits during that time and had a much more difficult time winning games. Now, to cover for the disaster they helped create, they attack me, the previous coach--anyone but who is responsible for what is happening now (in large part themselves).

In the end, under the new coach WVU is one loss away from 6 losses on the season with no sign of turning the losses around this year or next year.

The rest of the conference isn't getting weaker, and the OOC competition isn't either.

The trolls will continue to talk about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING except this. Deflection and denial at its finest.

 

[RichardCranium1]

But supposedly you had some homosexual relationship with Dana so to most of us that clouds your judgement.

From what I have heard you are upset that Neal Brown doesn't have a similar lifestyle.
Dana is a drunk, coke addict, compulsive gambler and I guess your butt buddy.
If that is your type of coach than that is on you and your own personal choice. No one here really cares anymore.
Can't bring your coke snorting BF back.

 

[Buckaineer]

and there you have it--ignorant trolls running wild on this board unchecked.

This board is obviously not here for discussion about WVU athletics, just psycho ward for the trolls that took it over years ago.

 

[RichardCranium1]

Dana is gone.

You can't change the past but only the future by starting today.
You are wasting our time talking about something from the past
If you stopped talking about your BF Dana people might take you serious.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Brown has been awful so far at WVU.

The morons who pushed the second winningest coach out don't want to admit how wrong they were about how difficult it was to win at WVU and how good of a job the previous coach had done in WINNING GAMES for WVU.

Because they don't understand major college football and are simpletons, they libeled, whined, railed, attacked night and day--ensuring WVU lost many recruits during that time and had a much more difficult time winning games. Now, to cover for the disaster they helped create, they attack me, the previous coach--anyone but who is responsible for what is happening now (in large part themselves).

In the end, under the new coach WVU is one loss away from 6 losses on the season with no sign of turning the losses around this year or next year.

The rest of the conference isn't getting weaker, and the OOC competition isn't either.

The trolls will continue to talk about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING except this. Deflection and denial at its finest.

Holgorsen's bowl record at WVU = 2-5.

One of those wins was the Orange Bowl, a team handed to him, not his recruits and the other win was a 43-42 win over a mediocre Arizona State team.

Glad he's gone.

 

[WVUALLEN]

BIG 12 recruiting rankings:

2018
WVU-#6 (B12)----nationally #35
Kansas State-#9 (B12)----nationally #66

2017
WVU-#8 (B12)----nationally #57
Kansas State-#9 (B12)----nationally #61

2016
WVU-#4 (B12)----nationally #39
Kansas State-#10 (B12)----nationally #72

So NO, KSU's former coach was not recruiting better than Holgorsen--what it shows is some people have an agenda to defame Holgorsen at all costs no matter what.

Facts matter. Brown was left with better players than KSU and has duped you into believing WVU needed a complete rebuild as though they never played a down of football.

But former K. State coach was kicking Holgorsens ***.

Facts: WVU defense blew last year.
Facts: WVU offense, QB, 4 WR all graduated from that 8-5 team.

Fact: K-State returned 22 seniors.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

K State returned a QB with starting experience.
Their OLine has experience plus they brought in a solid grad transfer in Gilbert.

K State wasn't awful last year but the issues off the field caused turmoil and Bill Snyder was finally pushed out.

K State even with all that was a program with a College HoF coach.


Regarding WVU
Stop making excuses. There is talent out there and talent that Dana brought in.

Sam James
Winston Wright

Dana left a stockpile of good to possible elite WRs
Problem is on the OLine and protecting your defense.
Neal Brown has an idea of how he wants to play but doesn't have the pieces.
Like I have said when you make it Dana vs Neal Brown Buckaineer/Greg Jacobs is winning

 

[Buckaineer]

There's simply no way to rationally spin it.

Brown inherited higher ranked players across the board, but has WVU losing badly left and right, while K-State with far lower ranked recruiting classes, more JUCO's and transfers, is winning.

Its the coaching--K State's coach knows how to coach, Brown is learning on the job as a head coach at this level. He was only a coordinator at this level previously and it shows. His fanboys are making excuses for him because they told everyone how easy it was to win in the BIG 12 for a decade, that anyone could step in and do it better than the previous staff and they've been rapidly proven terribly wrong--just as expected.

K State's coach is coaching up all those transfers, JUCO's and inherited players that are not as skilled as what Brown had to work with, and Brown hasn't figured out what to do with what he inherited yet. Doesn't appear he'll figure it out this year--or maybe ever on offense.

Brown himself touted the RBs as the cream of the crop coming into the season, and yet still hasn't figured out how to run the ball. The entire offense is not good--and that's a long term problem in a league like the BIG 12. We've already seen that most weeks you aren't going to just rely on defense to win games in this conference, you've got to score--often and alot to win and Brown simply thinks he'll play a lame sun belt style offense and beat the Texas' and Oklahoma's and Baylor's week in and out and it just doesn't work. Led to several blowout losses and eked out wins over an FCS team and Kansas so far.

 

[WVUALLEN]

K State returned a QB with starting experience.
Their OLine has experience plus they brought in a solid grad transfer in Gilbert.

K State wasn't awful last year but the issues off the field caused turmoil and Bill Snyder was finally pushed out.

K State even with all that was a program with a College HoF coach.


Regarding WVU
Stop making excuses. There is talent out there and talent that Dana brought in.

Sam James
Winston Wright

Dana left a stockpile of good to possible elite WRs
Problem is on the OLine and protecting your defense.
Neal Brown has an idea of how he wants to play but doesn't have the pieces.
Like I have said when you make it Dana vs Neal Brown Buckaineer/Greg Jacobs is winning

Try this on for size dumbass.

Junior Skylar Thompson has two experienced running backs a grad transfer (this means SR bucky with a return back with experience) and an offense built to his skill set with a senior laden offensive line (all five starters are seniors) the defense is full of veterans ready to help the team win games.

All five of Kansas State’s starters on the offensive line will share something in common when they take the field for be seniors.

Let's see that makes 5 OL and the QB, amazing. Returned nobody RB, but got a very good transfer.

“We have a number of guys,” Klieman said, “who have played an awful lot of snaps up front.”

Gilbert, a graduate transfer from Ball State, edged out Jordon Brown and Harry Trotter for the job. The depth chart lists the word “or” between Brown and Trotte.

A grad transfer Gilbert is their first choice at RB.

Senior wide receiver Dalton Schoen returned. Four other WR with experience return.

Nick Lenners is the most notable member of that group. The sophomore from Lincoln, Nebraska at tight end, but he is also listed as a fullback.

Quit with your K.State rebuilding crap and save it for next year when they need it.

 

[WVUALLEN]

There's simply no way to rationally spin it.

Brown inherited higher ranked players across the board, but has WVU losing badly left and right, while K-State with far lower ranked recruiting classes, more JUCO's and transfers, is winning.

Its the coaching--K State's coach knows how to coach, Brown is learning on the job as a head coach at this level. He was only a coordinator at this level previously and it shows. His fanboys are making excuses for him because they told everyone how easy it was to win in the BIG 12 for a decade, that anyone could step in and do it better than the previous staff and they've been rapidly proven terribly wrong--just as expected.

K State's coach is coaching up all those transfers, JUCO's and inherited players that are not as skilled as what Brown had to work with, and Brown hasn't figured out what to do with what he inherited yet. Doesn't appear he'll figure it out this year--or maybe ever on offense.

Brown himself touted the RBs as the cream of the crop coming into the season, and yet still hasn't figured out how to run the ball. The entire offense is not good--and that's a long term problem in a league like the BIG 12. We've already seen that most weeks you aren't going to just rely on defense to win games in this conference, you've got to score--often and alot to win and Brown simply thinks he'll play a lame sun belt style offense and beat the Texas' and Oklahoma's and Baylor's week in and out and it just doesn't work. Led to several blowout losses and eked out wins over an FCS team and Kansas so far.

Try this on for size dumbass.

Junior Skylar Thompson has two experienced running backs a grad transfer (this means SR bucky with a return back with experience) and an offense built to his skill set with a senior laden offensive line (all five starters are seniors) the defense is full of veterans ready to help the team win games.

All five of Kansas State’s starters on the offensive line will share something in common when they take the field for be seniors.

Let's see that makes 5 OL and the QB, amazing. Returned nobody RB, but got a very good transfer.

“We have a number of guys,” Klieman said, “who have played an awful lot of snaps up front.”

Gilbert, a graduate transfer from Ball State, edged out Jordon Brown and Harry Trotter for the job. The depth chart lists the word “or” between Brown and Trotte.

Senior wide receiver Dalton Schoen returned. Four other WR with experience return.

Nick Lenners is the most notable member of that group. The sophomore from Lincoln, Nebraska at tight end, but he is also listed as a fullback.

 

[WVUALLEN]

It gets tiring proving Bucky wrong along with someone that shouldn't even be here.

 

[Buckaineer]

Proven wrong = troll Allen who is actually trying to claim lesser talent is better talent- now that his claims of lesser talent at WVU were proven false.

Recruiting rankings and on field results prove his nonsense is just that.

 

[Buckaineer]

and more indisputable fact:

2018 Score
WVU-35 KSU-6

2017 Score
WVU-28 KSU-23

2016 Score
WVU-17 KSU-16

 

[Buckaineer]

Allen in particular knows he wasted the better part of a decade trolling WVUs staff and team with lies, calling for fans not to attend games, the coach to be fired on a daily basis, ignoring every success that kept WVU solidly in the top 20 of all time wins--something Brown is now working hard to destroy with loss after loss.

Now he is desperate to excuse away that he is being proven wrong about how difficult it is for WVU to win in the BIG 12 and how well the previous staff--who finished with the second most wins under any staff in WVU history--did during their time--something he $h@t on good, great or not 24/7 365.

Now he is trying to sell you that a coach making every blunder he accused DH of and then some, who has WVU ranked near the bottom of FBS in multiple categories is great and everything is good--all because his ego won't admit he knows nothing about the BIG 12, nothing about WVU and nothing about football, but yet was determined to cause harm to all on a daily basis for a decade because he is a disturbed individual.

 

[Spreading Eagle 74]

Heard from a reliable source that Buckaineer was banned from the 247 board. Not sure if true but he also bragged about owning Vernon in some post on there too.

im pretty sure he did get banned you should ask Buck how many message boards he trolls

https://www.dirtburglars.com/forum/sports-forums/athletics/football/120-realignment-thread/page225
@Buckaineer Hey buck you wanna explain this?

 

[Spreading Eagle 74]

and more indisputable fact:

2018 Score
WVU-35 KSU-6

2017 Score
WVU-28 KSU-23

2016 Score
WVU-17 KSU-16

Fact Holgorsen was 3-4 against K State
Fact Holgorsen blew a 17 point half time lead to a weak Oklahoma state team.
Fact Holgorsen's best bowl win with a team hed recruited was a 1 point win against a 6-6 pact 12 team.
Fact Holgorsen got schooled by the last 3 weak acc teams he played.
Fact you're a troll you goes from message board to message board causing trouble and calling people trolls

https://www.dirtburglars.com/forum/sports-forums/athletics/football/120-realignment-thread/page225

 

[WVUALLEN]

Proven wrong = troll Allen who is actually trying to claim lesser talent is better talent- now that his claims of lesser talent at WVU were proven false.

Recruiting rankings and on field results prove his nonsense is just that.

Who said anything about lesser talent? I'm talking experience dumbass. You can have all the freaking talent in the world. But if you've never played well that's a different story. Brown is building a foundation. You are a carpenter ant wanting to tear down the foundation and separate the fan base.