can take lower ranked players, lots of JUCOs, and in his first year win at Mississippi State and beat Oklahoma.
Now that is a real coach.
Now that is a real coach.
Funny how K States new coach
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First off you already posted this using your alter profile vault.
MIss. Stat 3-5
OU legit win.
K-State Cupboard....
K-State returned Thompson at quarterback, the bulk of its offensive line and a solid, if not spectacular, group of receivers.
Dalton Schoen and Malik Knowles.
Isaiah Zuber decided to transfer. (I guess Klieman ran him off)
Running Backs. The Wildcats will rely on true freshmen Thomas Grayson, Clyde Price and Joe Ervin. North Carolina graduate transfer Jordon Brown will also push for time in the fall.
Wildcats do have some nice returning talent on defense. Trey Dishon and Reggie Walker will lead the way up front. Both are three-year starters on the defensive line and seem poised for strong final seasons.
Linebacker was the question mark. Two proven players returning in DaQuan Patton and Elijah Sullivan, but they lost Justin Hughes to a torn ACL in spring practice. Hughes came on strong late last season and seemed to be emerging as the team’s top linebacker.
Some questions in the secondary, though. Denzel Goolsby and AJ Parker will try and lead a group that must replace Kendall Adams, Duke Shelley and Eli Walker. Walter Neil Jr. should give the unit a boost at nickel back.
K-State was good against the run last season, allowing 157.7 yards per game, but struggled at times against the pass, surrendering 245.8 per game.
Yeah. K-State cupboard was bare.
MIss. Stat 3-5
OU legit win.
K-State Cupboard....
K-State returned Thompson at quarterback, the bulk of its offensive line and a solid, if not spectacular, group of receivers.
Dalton Schoen and Malik Knowles.
Isaiah Zuber decided to transfer. (I guess Klieman ran him off)
Running Backs. The Wildcats will rely on true freshmen Thomas Grayson, Clyde Price and Joe Ervin. North Carolina graduate transfer Jordon Brown will also push for time in the fall.
Wildcats do have some nice returning talent on defense. Trey Dishon and Reggie Walker will lead the way up front. Both are three-year starters on the defensive line and seem poised for strong final seasons.
Linebacker was the question mark. Two proven players returning in DaQuan Patton and Elijah Sullivan, but they lost Justin Hughes to a torn ACL in spring practice. Hughes came on strong late last season and seemed to be emerging as the team’s top linebacker.
Some questions in the secondary, though. Denzel Goolsby and AJ Parker will try and lead a group that must replace Kendall Adams, Duke Shelley and Eli Walker. Walter Neil Jr. should give the unit a boost at nickel back.
K-State was good against the run last season, allowing 157.7 yards per game, but struggled at times against the pass, surrendering 245.8 per game.
Yeah. K-State cupboard was bare.
Funny how and FCS coach can beat Oklahoma in his 1st try and your messiah can't even win in the American conference. Care to tell us why
@VaultHunter
Funny how your hero has a higher ranked players and lots of Juco players and still can't finish above 4th in Big 12.
Amazing the number of trolls and brown apologists.
They denigrated the second winningest coach in WVU history- his teams and players- til he left.
Now that they have been proven drastically wrong about all their anti WVU claims— and more importantly because they cant admit how wrong they were— they talk $h!t about a school that has 0 relationship to anything WVU, has no meaning for WVU fans—- and doesnt explain anything about the new coach whose b@lls they lick daily as he sends WVU into the dregs of cfb— doesnt explain why he is failing so miserably at WVU.
Guess these morons dont want WVU winning.
They denigrated the second winningest coach in WVU history- his teams and players- til he left.
Now that they have been proven drastically wrong about all their anti WVU claims— and more importantly because they cant admit how wrong they were— they talk $h!t about a school that has 0 relationship to anything WVU, has no meaning for WVU fans—- and doesnt explain anything about the new coach whose b@lls they lick daily as he sends WVU into the dregs of cfb— doesnt explain why he is failing so miserably at WVU.
Guess these morons dont want WVU winning.
And here we go again with the same dogmatic mantra of “second winningest yadda yadda yadda...”
I will probably end up putting this guy on ignore but I just can't bring myself to do it. I'm afraid I'll miss something.
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Both the K State coach and the TCU coach hinted that they learned things from the things NB was try to do against Texas and Oklahoma but NB just didn’t have the personnel to make them work.
They said they thought they had the personnel to make those things work so they tried a lot of it. And sure enough, the things NB was trying worked for them.
Hmmmm.
They said they thought they had the personnel to make those things work so they tried a lot of it. And sure enough, the things NB was trying worked for them.
Hmmmm.
LIES. All you have. I simply correct the FACTUAL record of DHs time at WVU while you suck NBs @$$ with ore made up bs.
Yeah, they learned what NOT to do against the teams they played. Give me an fing break.
Kansas State has at least 25 players that came from Junior Colleges or transferred in. 15 JUCOs at least on the roster.
WVU whiners BASHED the previous WVU coach for smaller rosters of transfers and JUCO players. BLASTED him.
KSU fans champion their coaches and are beating OKLAHOMA. With JUCOs and transfers. They value their coaches, they value their players and team.
People on this board obviously don't care for anything about WVU at all--they are simply trolls visiting to create havoc with WVU and sadly are succeeding.
WVU now actually has an underperforming coaching staff that is dropping WVU into an afterthought in college football with no indication things will be turning around.
Meanwhile K State is 5-2 with wins @ Mississippi State and against #5 Oklahoma
WVU whiners BASHED the previous WVU coach for smaller rosters of transfers and JUCO players. BLASTED him.
KSU fans champion their coaches and are beating OKLAHOMA. With JUCOs and transfers. They value their coaches, they value their players and team.
People on this board obviously don't care for anything about WVU at all--they are simply trolls visiting to create havoc with WVU and sadly are succeeding.
WVU now actually has an underperforming coaching staff that is dropping WVU into an afterthought in college football with no indication things will be turning around.
Meanwhile K State is 5-2 with wins @ Mississippi State and against #5 Oklahoma
Brown talks about recruiting WV, talks about recruiting around the state, talks about limiting JUCO's, transfers. Says all the things people want to hear because they don't know anything about college football.
Kansas State ignores all that b.s.----and wins lots of games as they create a family atmosphere and use whomever they are able to recruit to their full potential.
They coach them. Something that unfortunately Brown and co haven't figured out yet at the P5 level. He is "learning on the job". Something the trolls often used to shout and scream about WVUs previous coach (even after he'd been at WVU 9 years).
Kansas State ignores all that b.s.----and wins lots of games as they create a family atmosphere and use whomever they are able to recruit to their full potential.
They coach them. Something that unfortunately Brown and co haven't figured out yet at the P5 level. He is "learning on the job". Something the trolls often used to shout and scream about WVUs previous coach (even after he'd been at WVU 9 years).
Those players, JC and transfers you talk about are spread over the past 5 years. So majority are seniors and juniors.
K. State
27 Seniors
19 Juniors
Depth Chart
2 deep 15 Seniors
only 2 freshman start and their RS freshman.
You got to wonder how this first year coach is making it. Must be a miracle.
Meanwhile WVU is being duct taped together with true freshman and inexperienced players.
Brown should be winning the national championship. What a tool.
WVUs coach pushed out 20 or so players when he came in.
While some try to ignore this, it cannot be ignored--it was starting quality depth.
If Brown is working with a diluted roster its by his own doing--but then we know i.e. he returned what was expected to be the top RB corps in the BIG 12--and rapidly turned them into a unit only underperformed by Rutgers and Texas STATE and one other team.
This is not good no matter how some try to ignore and distract from it.
Far worse than the previous hated staff brought to WVU.
Brown should be winning 9 games at least. Should be improving upon what was, not taking WVU back to the basics of football as though theyve never competed before.
Even the AD stated his expectation is that they will be in a bowl this season despite any changes. Not a complete rebuild that shows no signs of completion.
While some try to ignore this, it cannot be ignored--it was starting quality depth.
If Brown is working with a diluted roster its by his own doing--but then we know i.e. he returned what was expected to be the top RB corps in the BIG 12--and rapidly turned them into a unit only underperformed by Rutgers and Texas STATE and one other team.
This is not good no matter how some try to ignore and distract from it.
Far worse than the previous hated staff brought to WVU.
Brown should be winning 9 games at least. Should be improving upon what was, not taking WVU back to the basics of football as though theyve never competed before.
Even the AD stated his expectation is that they will be in a bowl this season despite any changes. Not a complete rebuild that shows no signs of completion.
I know you are just a dipshit troll...but who has said he should be winning nine but you?
I will wait why you name them all.
Why should he win nine when your boy Dana only did that twice in his time here and once was with Stewart's players....
You really are a ****.
Brown came into a program that was in contention for a BIG 12 CCG up until a 3 pt loss to playoff participant OU in the final regular season game last season.
Many players came back. The coach was left with a solid group, and new players that he brought in, that should have kept WVU in similar position as to last year.
And there were MANY who claimed "anyone can step in and immediately do a better job (than 8 win Holgorsen) so yes, MANY claimed it and you are simply one in a line of lying trolls trying to personally attack me because your ego won't allow you to admit how wrong you were.
Now its "everyone knew WVU would suck"---Yeah, people like me who told you they would if people like you were allowed to chase off the second winningest coach in WVU history because he couldn't dominate the BIG 12 (which some of you idiots seem to think is the AAC or worse--its not as you dumb@$$es are quickly finding out--but of course still won't admit).
Many players came back. The coach was left with a solid group, and new players that he brought in, that should have kept WVU in similar position as to last year.
And there were MANY who claimed "anyone can step in and immediately do a better job (than 8 win Holgorsen) so yes, MANY claimed it and you are simply one in a line of lying trolls trying to personally attack me because your ego won't allow you to admit how wrong you were.
Now its "everyone knew WVU would suck"---Yeah, people like me who told you they would if people like you were allowed to chase off the second winningest coach in WVU history because he couldn't dominate the BIG 12 (which some of you idiots seem to think is the AAC or worse--its not as you dumb@$$es are quickly finding out--but of course still won't admit).
You seriously don't believe the bull **** you post. Your looking for replies. Making up stories. Getting attention. We keep feeding your troll attitude and you play whack a mole with your balls.
It's time you stop the BS and or get BANNED!
Dana didn’t win 9 games with Grier and 4 other NFL picks on the roster, but you think the roster Brown inherited and tried to throw together after Dana quit on the team last November is supposed to win 9 games?
Many people right on these very boards claimed ANYONE could step right in and do a better job than Holgorsen. Immediately.
That was the response when posters like myself tried to stop the 24/7 365 attacks on WVUs program with reason. Reason about where the program actually was and how it was doing and reason about what would happen if you blew up the progress WVU had made since joining the BIG 12.
Now the attackers are running to hide, pretending they didnt make such claims for years on end as their " savior" coach flushes WVU down the toilet rapidly?
Its sad your egos are so feeble you cant admit how wrong you were about the difficulties Holgorsen faced as he tried to win games for your sorry @$$es. Didnt win them all, but he did manage to bring in the second most wins ever against the strongest schedules anyone ever faced as a hc at WVU.
That was the response when posters like myself tried to stop the 24/7 365 attacks on WVUs program with reason. Reason about where the program actually was and how it was doing and reason about what would happen if you blew up the progress WVU had made since joining the BIG 12.
Now the attackers are running to hide, pretending they didnt make such claims for years on end as their " savior" coach flushes WVU down the toilet rapidly?
Its sad your egos are so feeble you cant admit how wrong you were about the difficulties Holgorsen faced as he tried to win games for your sorry @$$es. Didnt win them all, but he did manage to bring in the second most wins ever against the strongest schedules anyone ever faced as a hc at WVU.
WV Allen has been trolling and derailing these boards for YEARS.
He doesnt believe what he writes, and changes it to fit the trolling of the day he wants to carry out.
Regularly violates board policy. Has chased off numerous posters over the years as he viciously attacked WVUs athletic programs with lies, libel and innuendo.
And he is calling for people to be banned from a message board because he doesnt want people paying attention to facts and not his clown act? Unbelievable if we didnt see it every day for the past decade.
Just absolutely pitiful.
He doesnt believe what he writes, and changes it to fit the trolling of the day he wants to carry out.
Regularly violates board policy. Has chased off numerous posters over the years as he viciously attacked WVUs athletic programs with lies, libel and innuendo.
And he is calling for people to be banned from a message board because he doesnt want people paying attention to facts and not his clown act? Unbelievable if we didnt see it every day for the past decade.
Just absolutely pitiful.
Show them all up. Post their own words and prove to all who stated that anyone can step in and do better than Holgersen.
List the difficulties that Holgersen had to win games. Just wondering why they difficulties vanished when Holgersen left.
The single dumbest post I've read all year, and that is really saying something.
And also not to sound bitter, besides obvious differences/advantages between the 2 and them being at home, I would be surprised to see their coach be there too long. As coaches go he is a stud, I would be at the very least surprised if he does have the success he is capable of to see him stay long term a city that ESPN said has only 1 paved road entering or exiting it. But the dude can coach
You remember several years ago when VT was testing the various brands of helmets to see the effects of repeated collisions and the odds of concussion?
Well, we see above the poor soul who was wearing the leather helmet...
Lol welcome to the antics of the freeboard. Watch where you step when you walk back to the blue lot. Piles of **** everywhere.
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