Dims blink on impeachment

rog1187

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The House will vote this week on a resolution to formalize the next steps of the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.

The resolution — which “establishes the procedure for hearings,” according to a statement by Speaker Nancy Pelosi — will mark the first floor vote on impeachment since Democrats formally launched their inquiry a month ago.

"We are taking this step to eliminate any doubt as to whether the Trump Administration may withhold documents, prevent witness testimony, disregard duly authorized subpoenas, or continue obstructing the House of Representatives," Pelosi said in a letter to Democrats obtained by POLITICO.
 

atlkvb

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Wait...I thought a formal vote wasn't required? If this is a "formal" vote to establish procedures, what was the past two weeks a mime show?

What's changed?[eyeroll]
 

TarHeelEer

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So it has been a shitshow up until this vote. Thanks for clarifying Nancy! Yeah, put away the bottle, and fix your dentures.
 

atlkvb

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So it has been a shitshow up until this vote. Thanks for clarifying Nancy! Yeah, put away the bottle, and fix your dentures.

Exactly! Someone on the Left want to tell me what the past two weeks were for if NOW all of a sudden we have to take a vote to "formalize" this inquiry process?

Could the lawsuit signed by 50 Senators promising to dismiss the entire case unless a formal vote is taken have anything to do with this "formalized vote" we were told for the past two weeks wasn't even necessary?

Inquiring minds want to know?
 

TarHeelEer

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LOL! It's a no vote vote.

"outlines procedures to transfer evidence to the Judiciary Committee as it considers potential articles of impeachment"

This still isn't a formalization on impeachment proceedings.

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atlkvb

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So it has been a shitshow up until this vote. Thanks for clarifying Nancy! Yeah, put away the bottle, and fix your dentures.

Hey you Tar Heel Man...I know what I'm doing. MYOB! You're just the moderator of this forum, I'm speaker of the House! Don't you dare disrespect me

 

atlkvb

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Newt Gingrich...former Speaker of the House who once ran a successful impeachment inquiry is absolutely obliterating Pelosi, Schiff, and this entire process on the Sean Hannity radio show right now. I mean he just dices them up, and explains pretty clearly how Dems are going to fail miserably trying to get this through. He absolutely doesn't think they will find enough votes to impeach, and he says the Senate will destroy whatever case they would be foolish enough to try and send over right now doing this without the due process this type of procedure demands.

That's why Pelosi called for this phony "vote" on Thursday, but Newt says it's just for show because the Senate will still be able to carve up the case prepared so far without the due process Constitutionally required to fulfill full evidentiary requirements.

I mean he was absolutely devastating the way he systematically dismantled the Democrat's case, explaining exactly how Senators will do the same. Anyone get a chance to catch a re-broadcast...highly recommended. 2nd hour of the show...Sean had him on for the full hour.

It was riveting stuff...Newt knows what he's talking about too, because as I said he did this very same thing during the Clinton impeachment back in the late 90's.
 

79eer

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Not sure this could have played out any better if Trump orchestrated it himself, .......... wait, he didn’t did he?
 

atlkvb

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Not sure this could have played out any better if Trump orchestrated it himself, .......... wait, he didn’t did he?

He knows what's in that IG report. He also knows the House has no enforcement mechanism to compel witness testimony without going to the courts. Why do you think he ordered everyone to ignore these so called "subpoenas"? He has Lawyers too 'ya know? They want this before the courts, Nancy doesn't. Know why? They don't have a case, and without a case they can't make it appear there's a serious chance they're going to impeach.

This is all just to keep the natives in their kook fringe base happy. No way she's going through with this only to lose in both the courts and the Senate.
 

79eer

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He knows what's in that IG report. He also knows the House has no enforcement mechanism to compel witness testimony without going to the courts.
Guessing Trump has had a pretty good idea what is eventually going to be made public for quite some time now ( at least a year ). We’ll see, it’s all good!
 

atlkvb

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Guessing Trump has had a pretty good idea what is eventually going to be made public for quite some time now ( at least a year ). We’ll see, it’s all good!

Yes he knows. He said during his news conference the other day that he didn't know, but he has an idea if not all of the details. Otherwise he'd be admonishing his people to cooperate with the three ring circus House Dems are running. He did the exact opposite because he knows they're going to look foolish in just a few days.

I also think the troop pullout he ordered from the Syrian territory was just a set up to get Al Baghdadi. He's playing these Dems like a Pimp plays Ladies of the night

What can I say atl...you know me too well



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Shirley Knott

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Not sure this could have played out any better if Trump orchestrated it himself, .......... wait, he didn’t did he?
Sounds like Trump is playing multi-level chess while Pelosi plays hop scotch......Heavy on the scotch....
 

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The House will vote this week on a resolution to formalize the next steps of the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.

The resolution — which “establishes the procedure for hearings,” according to a statement by Speaker Nancy Pelosi — will mark the first floor vote on impeachment since Democrats formally launched their inquiry a month ago.

"We are taking this step to eliminate any doubt as to whether the Trump Administration may withhold documents, prevent witness testimony, disregard duly authorized subpoenas, or continue obstructing the House of Representatives," Pelosi said in a letter to Democrats obtained by POLITICO.
Prudent next move.
 

moe

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Nancy is crushing you all and you mad as witnessed by all this sobbing.
 

atlkvb

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Re: post #29...In my opinion the reason the Left is having trouble following this is because they are being driven by pure emotion, instead of what's required in the Law and the Constitution. I almost pity them, because despite the fact nothing is really happening here regarding the drafting of actual articles of impeachment, they are following the hyper driven media reports designed to elicit the exact type of emotional responses they are displaying.

I listened to Newt Gingrich explain on the radio today what's outlined in the screenshots, it's shameful how ignorant these Leftists are. No matter. When it comes time to start actually voting out articles of impeachment, the reality of the weakness of the Democrat's case will become more apparent to the emotion driven misguided Left.

If you notice, we're no closer to a full house vote on the floor now, than when we first started this thing and we're now 3 weeks into it.

Stay tuned.
 

atlkvb

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trump cock suckers are so mad they act delusional.

You absolutely 100% cannot rebut either legally or Constitutionally the process explained in post #29. That process in front of your eyes details your defeat, and you STILL refuse to accept it.

OK. Carry on.
(I'd carefully read all of that if I were you, because Nancy is doing it exactly as she is being told)
 

atlkvb

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Prudent next move.

Last week, you and and your friends on the Left were arguing it wasn't even necessary. Now it's "prudent"?o_O

Explain how "unnecessary" turned into "prudent"?

You can't.[eyeroll]
 

atlkvb

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trump cock suckers are so mad they act delusional.

Name calling but no rebuttals to post #29?o_O

Last week you and your friends on the Left were saying no "formal" votes were needed. Now they're "prudent"? Well, what changed them from "not needed" to "prudent"?

Explain?

(you can't)
 

atlkvb

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Nancy is crushing you all and you mad as witnessed by all this sobbing.

"sobbing" moe?

Oh no my friend "laughing"

It's one thing to be ignorant. It's quite another to remain so when a helping hand is offered to end your ignorance.

That's funny moe.
 
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atlkvb

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Look atl, I know @countryroads89 has a bet with you and I'm sympathetic to that, but I have the Constitution and an entire Congress I have to deal with.
 

atlkvb

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Compliments to @WVU82 (and @TarHeelEer ) for posting this. I'm re-posting without the links thanks to @WVU82 just so @moe @bamaEER and @countryroads89 can read what they refuse to click on when 82 posts. Most of them have him on ignore.

Again, it's all right here, but even blind folks can refuse eyesight when offered.

Enjoy:

This is a must read !!!



https://theconservativetreehouse.co...peachment-inquiry-the-house-never-authorized/

Pelosi Calls House Vote to Affirm Speaker Impeachment Inquiry The House Never Authorized…
Posted on October 28, 2019 by sundance

Very nice trick here by the Lawfare advisory and rules committee that is handling the construct of the “Official House Inquiry” on impeachment. It is such a good trick it has everyone crossed-up and confused. Likely, that is by design.
On Thursday of this week Speaker Pelosi is bringing to the floor a resolution to affirm her previous declaration of an “Official House Inquiry”. Mrs. Pelosi is very purposefully and carefully telling reporters this is not a “House resolution on impeachment”. Read the wording carefully:



(LINK)

Speaker Pelosi is holding a vote, a resolution, to affirm her previous declaration of a House “inquiry”. The resolution is currently being written by Lawfare. Pelosi is not delivering a House “Resolution on Impeachment” for a vote, because if she did hold a vote on an impeachment resolution, the minority and the Executive branch would gain rights therein.

This is a House vote to show support for Pelosi’s previous unilateral decree. Right now the rules committee is adding language to the resolution that will provide additional one-sided support for a completely partisan process.

Note in this video, Pelosi is careful to say “this is not an impeachment resolution”:

Speaker Pelosi, asked by @AlexNBCNews to comment on the impeachment resolution:

“It’s not an impeachment resolution.”


5:38 PM - Oct 28, 2019



It is not an “impeachment resolution”, it is a resolution to support the already existing “impeachment inquiry”. Pelosi and the Lawfare crew are playing games.

Additionally, notice that like Pelosi, Chairman Schiff is careful not to use the words “impeachment investigation”, but rather says “impeachment inquiry”:

This week, we're voting to establish the format for open hearings that will be conducted as part of the impeachment inquiry.

The American people will hear firsthand about the President's misconduct.

The rules for an “impeachment investigation” would provide rights for the minority and also rights for the Executive branch.

So instead of having a House vote to authorize an impeachment investigation, with subsequent rights for the minority; they are having a House vote to affirm the “impeachment inquiry” with an entirely different set of House rules that do not include rights for the minority.

Nice trick huh?

On Thursday there will be a House vote to authorize:

…”ongoing investigations as part of the existing House of Representatives inquiry into whether sufficient grounds exist for the House of Representatives to exercise its Constitutional power to impeach Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, and for other purposes.” (link)

And that House vote will include rules to further facilitate the one-sided, official impeachment inquiry, process therein.

Here’s where it gets interesting.

The Thursday vote will likely have a rule process to conjoin the House Judiciary Committee (HJC) with the House “official impeachment inquiry”.

Why now? Because the HJC just won a legal ruling from DC Judge Beryl Howell granting the Judiciary Committee formal impeachment authority. {Go Deep}

Lawfare is hoping that through this Thursday vote scheme they will be able to twist the legal process into providing their House inquiry judicial enforcement authority, or punishment possible for the executive not complying with a House committee subpoena. They are hoping to achieve this by bringing in the House Judiciary Committee and the judicial enforcement authority they were just granted by Judge Howell.

Remember, the Lawfare intent is to pierce the constitutional firewall that creates a distinct separation of powers; and the Legislative branch is trying to force documents from the Executive branch, overriding executive privilege. This is a constitutional issue. This level of impeachment intent is why judicial enforcement authority (the full house authorization to grant weight to legal subpoena power) becomes much more important.

Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler and Lawfare are attempting to create “judicial enforcement authority” without having an actual and constitutional vote to authorize an official “impeachment investigation”. That’s what this House resolution is all about.


The House resolution is intended to authorize and validate the pre-existing Pelosi “impeachment inquiry”, and then expand the authority within the rules to create the impression of a full House impeachment investigation; without actually having a House “impeachment investigation” vote…. because that would open-up rights to the minority and rights to the executive.

Of course, as previously stated, none of this would be possible if it were not for the complicit support of the entire national media. Pelosi’s impeachment scheme requires a compliant media to support her construct. So far, they have.

I hope that helps make sense of it all. Right now it feels like CTH is up against the entire DC Lawfare process, in explaining what is going on; and what are the motives and intents behind all of these moves….

Your job is to STAND UP and explain this complex non-constitutional process to your friends, family and neighbors.



Thanks 82!
 
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dave

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Last week, you and and your friends on the Left were arguing it wasn't even necessary. Now it's "prudent"?o_O

Explain how "unnecessary" turned into "prudent"?

You can't.[eyeroll]
They will do whatever Nancy tells them to do. They are Pelosi's lackwys