Can we stop the elder abuse and
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He agreed to be part of this. I can respect his service just like I respected John McCain's service without respecting what they became afterwards. He has a long history of questionable prosecutions and investigations as a Doj employee. He wasn't being held hostage.
Just like attacking McCain, it dilutes the message. Better to go after the true perps.
All for looking into his band of Democrat donors. However nobody made him lend his name to it. He wanted the results. I'm not giving him a free pass though I believe Barr will. Weisman needs to be held accountable for sure. His track record speaks for itself.
Still thinking the investigation was hooey. See the DHS head of cyber speak this past week. Look it up. Nobody outside the whitehouse and the fellators on Fox has said this investigation on Russian interference was hooey.
Maybe he loves his country and thought the relationship between the trump campaign and the soviets/Russians was a tad too cozy ......just maybe.
Go back and read some of the threads after his testimony. It was either an investigation about Russian interference or it was Russian/Trump Collusion investigation. Which is it? I have heard both from your tribe?
I'm glad we've found all of these Russians guilty and have them in jail now.
Maybe investigation 101 tells you to verify the probable cause before moving one inch further. He admitted in testimony he didn't do that.
Trump and Repubs seem to welcome interference from foreign governments in U.S. elections and hate efforts to hold those that interfered accountable.
I would say both clearly. But again, the FBI knew Manafort, Flynn, and others in the campaign were meeting Russians. You got to follow the trail gunny. You knew Russians were interfering. You knew trumps campaign was cozy with Russians. Follow the trail. I have investigated dozens of financial frauds and my biggest one I ever had was blown open by a summer intern looking at something marginally related to what we were doing. Got to follow the trails.
I give mueller credit for one fhing, he ended this pretty quickly when the trail cooled. I know the people on the right might not think so but he did.
Pretty hard to nab them when the President applauded their help and said he would seek it again.
Sorry we can't. I've been told on this board that he is one of the many that will be going to jail after Durham finishes up.
I agree with all you said, but that does not square with him not investigating the Steele Dossier. My biggest issue with all of this is the fact that the left is saying they were only there to investigate the Trump organization as it relates to Russia. That is clearly not the case as the bot farms had zero connections to Trump or his team, yet they want after that.
Lol ... they new alright. DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz and U.S. Attorney John Durham are going to clarify for you how they knew that.
Ignore that for a moment and try to look at the rest of the narrative. This should have been investigated. It was. We all should be appalled that people running for any office met with fvckimg Russians in order to bolster their chances. Russians. Brits are bad enough. What Clinton did was incredible in its own right. All Americans should be appalled by any of this. Yet 40% isn’t and the rest doesn’t seem to care.
"The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; "
The BOTS came directly from the investigation, as evidenced by rulings in federal court. The Steele dossier would have nothing to do with Special Counsel's narrow scope. It is being reviewed by other DOJ teams.
Even Putin said they wanted trump to win. Right?
Nevertheless the dossier alone was a piece. Nasty, mostly false, and an embarrassment. Take that out, and you still have to investigate. By the way, do you think that shared election info never made it to strategies employed by the bots? Seems like it would have been useful
Really?
‘I think I’d take it’: Trump says he might not report foreign help to FBI in 2020
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/trump-fbi-foreign-information-1362788
Now google how disinformation works. Putin worked for the KGB not McDonalds. You have no idea what he really thinks. Some us are old enough to remember how much money Russia gave to the Clinton Foundation ? Putin said. [pfftt]
Putin wanted Trump to win. You know because that's what he said. Disinformation. How much uranium has Trump sold Russia ?
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
Trump sending Putin his regards.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/...ican-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html
How a 4-Hour Battle Between Russian Mercenaries and U.S. Commandos unfolded.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/...ican-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html
How a 4-Hour Battle Between Russian Mercenaries and U.S. Commandos unfolded.
Let's isolate this then:
Trump
- Investigation started with Popadickulious. It was fake investigation from the start. he was approached, he was not trying to connect with the Russians. Went to jail for a process crime. This should have never been investigated, it was fake from the start
- Carter Paige- same as above- lost his career over it. This should have never been investigated, it was fake from the start
- Trump Tower- Moscow- Said it was about 100's of millions for Trump. The story was that Trump ran for President to get this deal done. The real story is that he was to get royalties which might have maxed 10 million over time. Trump never wanted to build there, he was just hoping his brand was on the the property. This caught Manafort and Cohen for crimes not associated with the deal. I can see where this would draw attention and should have been looked into. Trump was not involved with he financing of the project, he was there to brand the project. Given what has happened to date, do you Trump will ever do business within Russia?
- M. Flynn- 0% to do with Russia. This should have never been investigated as it was separate from the Russian narrative.
- Trump Tower meeting-This is big one. Trump took a meeting with known Russians to get dirt on Clinton. It was a set up from the start, but they did take the meeting. Should have been investigated, and it was. What was omitted from the report was that the Russians actually met with Clinton's campaign before and after the meeting, yet no mention of that in the report.
Clinton
- The DNC and the Clinton Campaign paid a foreign spy to compile a fake dossier to smear Trump prior to the election. They used the intelligence community to add credibitly so that the MSM would run with it. It worked! The money they spent on the dossier actually went to Russian agents who make up things about Trump. This was not mentioned in the report or investigated until Barr got involved.
- They used the fake dossier to spy on the Trump campaign and us citizens.
- After the election, they used the same dossier to open an investigation into the Trump campaign. This was not mentioned in the report
After all, they (Dems) are the ones turning on him now. He didn't "green light" their plans to hold impeachment hearings next fall running up to the election so they could smear Trump and make a vote for him a vote for a potential criminal.
Now they have to try and beat him with a better Socialist plan or a candidate to articulate it. [eyeroll]
If you will read the original charge, there was nothing mentioned about anyone to investigated outside Trump and his team. Sham from the git go
Maybe I missed it, where did they connect the Russian Bots and Trump? I have not seen that explained...
He was supposed to investigate all Russian attempts to "interfere" in the election. Misfud's disinformation certainly gained the attention of the FBI who thought a member of Trump's campaign had been "targeted" by Russians. So much so that they requested a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page.
How that dossier, Misfud, or Page escaped enhanced scrutiny from Mueller or his team is something "I'm not ready to get into". [eyeroll]
It arose directly from the investigation, which is allowable per the DOJ letter appointing a SC. It has been explained several times in federal court.
links please. Should be easy since it was explained several times. I just tried to find it and only found articles about bots retweeting Trump 500k in the last couple of months of the election. In Twitter speak, that's like keeping a secret.
Right ?
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-p...ter-calling-terror-victims-jewish-pigs-report
This is CNN? Photo editor resigns after being caught calling terror victims ‘Jewish pigs'
I saw an old man who could not remember the dossier and had no clue of the political conflicts of interest of the staff he hired. Inexcusable and he totally destroyed the credibility of the one sided investigation. Even the fake news knew it immediately. Best day ever in recent GOP history. Time to prosecute some real snakes and alligators. Drain the swamp.