Okay, exactly what crimes did Trump commit?

WVUCOOPER

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You're the one that said it. State your case.
Thanks for the promotion! Campaign finance fraud is punishable of up to 5 years in prison if the amounts are over $25.000. Both instances are over that threshold for the felony(ies).
 

Pospecteer

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You mean the same type campaign finance violations that Obama was found guilty of and paid a $375,000.00 fine?


Never underestimate the left. Just look at what they did to Dinesh Joseph D'Souza. the left has one legal system and everyone else has another.
 

TarHeelEer

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Thanks for the promotion! Campaign finance fraud is punishable of up to 5 years in prison if the amounts are over $25.000. Both instances are over that threshold for the felony(ies).

If Trump were to be found guilty (there is plenty of reason to think Cohen didn't commit the crime he pled guilty to), Similar amounts being funneled the way you propose have been fines in the past. Why do you commit to the "up to 5 years in prison" piece of the law in this case?

Other than orange man bad?
 

WVUCOOPER

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President Obama's campaign was accused of the violations, whereas Trump specifically was accused. The Obama campaign was not found to have willfully violated the law, whereas Trump and Cohen are accused of willfully violating the law. Also, the Obama campaign violation was a timing violation that they disclosed, whereas the Trump violation was intended to never be disclosed.
 

boomerwv

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And be specific....don't just wuss out and give generalities.

Multiple cases of obstruction as detailed in Muelller report.

Campaign finance violations stemming from porn star payoffs.

Witness tampering as seen on twitter.

Bank fraud for misstating worth in loan applications.

Charity fraud for self dealing from his own charity.

I'm sure there are more that I am missing.
 

WVUCOOPER

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If Trump were to be found guilty (there is plenty of reason to think Cohen didn't commit the crime he pled guilty to), Similar amounts being funneled the way you propose have been fines in the past. Why do you commit to the "up to 5 years in prison" piece of the law in this case?

Other than orange man bad?
Mostly intent. Guess it's easier to fall back on orange man bad. Sad!
 

moe

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He did Mr. Prosecutor? How so? If he had even one such payment in the past, it's not going to play as a political payment, you know that, right?
Trump lied about it and did everything under the sun to cover it up but got caught and his co-conspirator is going to prison for it. Compare that to circumstances related to the BO fine, there's no comparison.
 

WVUCOOPER

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He did Mr. Prosecutor? How so? If he had even one such payment in the past, it's not going to play as a political payment, you know that, right?
Except Cohen told a federal court that these 2 payments were for election purposes.
 

atlkvb

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Multiple cases of obstruction as detailed in Muelller report.

Campaign finance violations stemming from porn star payoffs.

Witness tampering as seen on twitter.

Bank fraud for misstating worth in loan applications.

Charity fraud for self dealing from his own charity.

I'm sure there are more that I am missing.

You missed "collusion" with Russians to steal the vote from Hillary.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Cohen is a known liar, even to Congress. Next.
Our entire criminal system is dependent on liars. What a joke. Half the inmates would be out if liars were written off. Fairly decent shot the prosecution had corroborating evidence. They don't just let people lie in their plea agreements.