So here’s the problem

[dave]

Cpeer can tell you about the time a Marshall fan was trying to get me to meet up with him in Charlotte and I posted my phone number for the guy to call me. Cpeer thought I had pisted the Marshall fans number or something like that...it was a long time ago. He called me and woke me up from a nap and started talking **** to me until we figired out the confusion. Had a good laugh.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Haha How mad you gotta be to try to dox somebody? Exactly how many nerves am I hitting?

@TarHeelEer cool with this now?

Not cool. He fixed orig, I edited your's.

 

[dave]

Apology accepted. And glad you also agreed that this is a #trumpshutdown lol

#trumpchucknancygetotoworkidiots shutdown.

 

[Boomboom521]

Knox made us become a little more guarded w/ personal info.

I don’t know Knox, but good. Some jags on here take these things waaaaay too seriously

 

[dave]

I don't even joke about your job anymore. *looks up*

Its sad that the folks here and in the blue lot could never imagine what a rogue comedy shitshow Vernons board was back before Rivals came along.

 

[Boomboom521]

Cpeer can tell you about the time a Marshall fan was trying to get me to meet up with him in Charlotte and I posted my phone number for the guy to call me. Cpeer thought I had pisted the Marshall fans number or something like that...it was a long time ago. He called me and woke me up from a nap and started talking **** to me until we figired out the confusion. Had a good laugh.

Even the ones on here that I clash with hard, I respect on some level. Not just the general respect we should give all life, and not even the respect Mountaineers should have for one another....but respect for those passionate about our government and policy. Even if I disagree with your positions, I recognize that engaged citizens make for a better America. So I respect the discourse and differences of opinion.

I like to go at it in person with people on politics.....although these days I have to be much much more guarded......hence my uptick in posts

 

[dave]

I was watching something on Netflix and they had the director of food and beverage for some resort in Atlantic city in a segment and his name was Larry Mullens. I staryed laughing and my wife thought I was nuts.

Larry Mullens was the name of a Boston College troll poster on the old forum and a long time running joke on the board.

 

[Boomboom521]

Cpeer can tell you about the time a Marshall fan was trying to get me to meet up with him in Charlotte and I posted my phone number for the guy to call me. Cpeer thought I had pisted the Marshall fans number or something like that...it was a long time ago. He called me and woke me up from a nap and started talking **** to me until we figired out the confusion. Had a good laugh.

Even the ones on here that I clash with hard, I respect on some level. Not just the general respect we should give all life, and not even the respect Mountaineers should have for one another....but respect for those passionate about our government and policy. Even if I disagree with your positions, I recognize that engaged citizens make for a better America. So I respect the discourse and differences of opinion.

I like to go at it in person with people on politics.....although these days I have to be much much more guarded......hence my uptick in posts

 

[atlkvb]

It wasnt that long ago the one of the biggest opponents of the wall on here was quoting Paul Krugman and the economic philosophy that govt spending is what keeps the economy moving but that person would never admit to the hypocrisy of opposing the wall now. Personally I think the wall is a great tool to channelize border crossing lications and giving the border patrol a better chance to succeed.

Since a lot of the Left's arguments against Trump and the Republicans right now is the fact that they're running up debt, I'm surprised none of them see the wall as a cost-saving measure to keep our deficit spending on entitlements for illegals in check.

 

[Boomboom521]

Since a lot of the Left's arguments against Trump and the Republicans right now is the fact that they're running up debt, I'm surprised none of them see the wall as a cost-saving measure to keep our deficit spending on entitlements for illegals in check.

Nope

 

[atlkvb]

I would imagine now that according to some posters in this thread since the problem of massive numbers of illegal immigrants trying to break into the country has been solved we can shut down the sanctuary cities?

 

[Boomboom521]

I would imagine now that according to some posters in this thread since the problem of massive numbers of illegal immigrants trying to break into the country has been solved we can shut down the sanctuary cities?

Use of of the funds for a “Trump wall” and clear up the backlog of asylum claims. Provide legitimate and practical pathways to citizenship without deportation. Then sanctuary cities will cease to exist

 

[atlkvb]

I don't think many on the Left have come to the realization yet, but that wall is going to be built no matter what. It's really not a matter of if but when. Once it is built the argument then will shift into how effective it is or isn't but it is going to get built one way or another.

 

[atlkvb]

Use of of the funds for a “Trump wall” and clear up the backlog of asylum claims. Provide legitimate and practical pathways to citizenship without deportation. Then sanctuary cities will cease to exist

So will building that wall [winking]

 

[atlkvb]

Use of of the funds for a “Trump wall” and clear up the backlog of asylum claims. Provide legitimate and practical pathways to citizenship without deportation. Then sanctuary cities will cease to exist

Sanctuary cities don't exist for immigrants coming into the country legally seeking Asylum. They are set up to protect illegal immigrants from being deported.

 

[atlkvb]

Use of of the funds for a “Trump wall” and clear up the backlog of asylum claims. Provide legitimate and practical pathways to citizenship without deportation. Then sanctuary cities will cease to exist

I will agree with the principal in this post that comprehensive immigration reform is needed. But along with that comes stricter and more efficient enforcement of our existing immigration laws which that wall represents a significant portion of and a dramatic shift from the lax enforcement that goes on now.

If we agree that we need comprehensive immigration reform but we don't need stricter enforcement of immigration laws we will be right back to where we were after 1986 when amnesty was granted supposedly to end all illegal immigration and we got greater numbers and a bigger problem than we had before

 

[D. Denzil Finney]

I just pay attention to what he does and not what he says. He's kicking your teams *** 6 ways from Sunday, but 'orange man bad' amirite. [winking]

The only persons getting their *** kicked are
the government employees that are not getting paid.

 

[atlkvb]

The only persons getting their *** kicked are
the government employees that are not getting paid.

It certainly appears after three weeks that we can do okay without a lot of these people so why should we bring them back?

 

[TarHeelEer]

Use of of the funds for a “Trump wall” and clear up the backlog of asylum claims. Provide legitimate and practical pathways to citizenship without deportation. Then sanctuary cities will cease to exist

You're inviting more illegals to come without solving the border issue. Kiss my hairy butt no

 

[Boomboom521]

You're inviting more illegals to come without solving the border issue. Kiss my hairy butt no

Then focus on the demand problem instead of just limiting supply

 

[dave]

Then focus on the demand problem instead of just limiting supply

Why not work on all of it and start by building the wall?

Its almost like democrats want ti offer up any and all possible solutions except the 1 because resisting is more important than everything else.

 

[atlkvb]

Then focus on the demand problem instead of just limiting supply

Boomer has swerved into the truth here in terms of the beginnings of a solution to comprehensive immigration reform. Employers who knowingly hire illegals should be punished severely for doing so and we should improve and enhance the electronic verification system they should be required to use before offering employment to anyone who is not here legally.

This is an excellent point if we are ever going to get a handle on what is attracting these folks and causing them to risk their lives to come to this country without the proper legal documentation or certifications.

Things like e-verify, background checks, merit-based evaluations of political Asylum seekers as well as strict limits on the numbers we take in and the prospects of their functioning in our society without help from taxpayers should also be primary components of whatever comprehensive immigration reform is passed into law.

The fact of the matter is we need more qualified legal immigration into this country to both improve our culture which historically is based on immigrants as well as achieving the numbers of qualified people to fill the growing amount of highly skilled jobs our expanding economy continues to produce.

It never gets mentioned in the debate but Americans are not opposed to Legal immigrants coming here and assimilating into this country and helping us maintain our high standards of living as well as preserving our unique American culture. Anyone who is willing to participate and go through the proper legal channels to come here and celebrate what is great about America instead of criticizing it has been and always is welcome.

However if illegals insist on coming here illegally or breaking our laws or bringing crime or running drugs or tearing down the culture, then the best they can hope for once they get past our great big beautiful wall is to be quickly picked up and deported back to whatever Hell hole they came from.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Then focus on the demand problem instead of just limiting supply

Why? Too many people cheat. Celebs even admit they use illegals as slaves.. errrr, housemaids.

 

[Boomboom521]

Why not work on all of it and start by building the wall?

Its almost like democrats want ti offer up any and all possible solutions except the 1 because resisting is more important than everything else.

Honestly? Because i think a lot of good people come across to provide for good people, and I don’t want to spend money we don’t have on a symbol

 

[Boomboom521]

Why? Too many people cheat. Celebs even admit they use illegals as slaves.. errrr, housemaids.

Because supply will find a way

 

[TarHeelEer]

Because supply will find a way

So let me get this straight.

• You want to focus on demand
• Business and the 1% want cheap labor
• Federal entitlement programs have made cheap labor a thing of the past. Some people would rather not work than work hard.
• Supply of cheap labor comes from illegal aliens, etc.
• rinse, repeat

The demand of cheap labor will never go away.

 

[Boomboom521]

So let me get this straight.

• You want to focus on demand
• Business and the 1% want cheap labor
• Federal entitlement programs have made cheap labor a thing of the past. Some people would rather not work than work hard.
• Supply of cheap labor comes from illegal aliens, etc.
• rinse, repeat

The demand of cheap labor will never go away.

Then provide a legal means for cheap labor to be used.
If companies are forced to use “cheap labor” to provide a product at a price they will purchase, then that price point and/or product seem fvcked, no?

Are you trying to say that your precious necessary wall isn’t trying to stop cheap illegal labor?

Or is this wall all about your terrorism fears?

 

[Boomboom521]

So let me get this straight.

• You want to focus on demand
• Business and the 1% want cheap labor
• Federal entitlement programs have made cheap labor a thing of the past. Some people would rather not work than work hard.
• Supply of cheap labor comes from illegal aliens, etc.
• rinse, repeat

The demand of cheap labor will never go away.

And if the demand doesn’t subside, the supply will find a way around the wall.

In 10 yrs it will be about Coast Guard funding and eliminating temporary work visa opportunities.

 

[Boomboom521]

So let me get this straight.

• You want to focus on demand
• Business and the 1% want cheap labor
• Federal entitlement programs have made cheap labor a thing of the past. Some people would rather not work than work hard.
• Supply of cheap labor comes from illegal aliens, etc.
• rinse, repeat

The demand of cheap labor will never go away.

And truly, I want government endeavors (projects and programs we pay for) to either be effective or dropped from discussion.

You’re screaming for a wall to stop (or slow down) illegal immigration. But it has slowed to the lowest levels in 45 years without the wall. You want to curb supply, aim at demand. The drug war should have taught us this.

If it’s about terrorism and gang violence, ok....but I don’t think the wall being discussed in this funding bill will deter either.

Send a billion $$$ to 5 different Central American nations to build factories.....I think that would have a bigger effect on illegal immigration.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Then provide a legal means for cheap labor to be used.
If companies are forced to use “cheap labor” to provide a product at a price they will purchase, then that price point and/or product seem fvcked, no?

They are skewed. I don't know in what direction. Change entitlement laws, and see if people will work, or starve? Then build a wall, and see if people will still try to go around for jobs that may not be there for them, and no benefits? Every time government tries to fix something with a feelgood policy, it breaks something else.

Are you trying to say that your precious necessary wall isn’t trying to stop cheap illegal labor?

Or is this wall all about your terrorism fears?

No, not at all. Two main points:

• government is turrible. The less of it the better.
• A wall, a barrier between us and not us, is a good thing.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Send a billion $$$ to 5 different Central American nations to build factories.....I think that would have a bigger effect on illegal immigration.

Good grief.

 

[Boomboom521]

They are skewed. I don't know in what direction. Change entitlement laws, and see if people will work, or starve? Then build a wall, and see if people will still try to go around for jobs that may not be there for them, and no benefits? Every time government tries to fix something with a feelgood policy, it breaks something else.



No, not at all. Two main points:

• government is turrible. The less of it the better.
• A wall, a barrier between us and not us, is a good thing.

And you honestly think that wall is more of a deterrent than the Rio Grande? Or the fvcking desert? Jeez.

Government is necessary. You trust it on defense, you trust it in law enforcement, criminal rehabilitation.....it just needs to be efficient.....like anything, we need to learn, apply what we learn, and hold people accountable.

 

[Boomboom521]

Good grief.

Yeah, I wasn’t serious

 

[TarHeelEer]

And you honestly think that wall is more of a deterrent than the Rio Grande?

Or the fvcking desert? Jeez.

2016, but I'm sure it's just as possible.

Government is necessary. You trust it on defense, you trust it in law enforcement, criminal rehabilitation.....it just needs to be efficient.....like anything, we need to learn, apply what we learn, and hold people accountable.

Government is a bureaucracy boondoggle with great feelgood actions that turn into inefficient unworkable executions. Noone is every held accountable, we never learn, and it only gets worse.

 

[Boomboom521]

2016, but I'm sure it's just as possible.





Government is a bureaucracy boondoggle with great feelgood actions that turn into inefficient unworkable executions. Noone is every held accountable, we never learn, and it only gets worse.

Meh, where’s your bunker at?

Let’s change it Chico! Only thing that made sense about Trump, imo, was the desire to change the entrenched system. He ain’t getting it done.....so vote Oprah, or the Rock, or some ****.

Seriously, the conversation on both sides needs to be about making government efficient. It’s the one fvcking thing everyone can agree on. If it doesn’t work, Dutch it for something that might.

 

[TarHeelEer]

Meh, where’s your bunker at?

It's my house. With walls. Locking doors. Security cameras. Dogs. and guns.

 

[tjebarr]

Not to single you out, but it is creepy af to me when people start calling posters by their first name. Carry on!

[thumb2] here's an example when you caught Dave using CPeers real name and Dave apologized.