NC State
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They look like *** tonight but they were playing much better when we would have played them, earlier in the season. Still not sure how the game would have gone but even if we had beat them, I'm not sure it would help our current or future playoff ranking any.
NC State never was playing better or good. They just didn’t play anybody with a pulse. They are another weak horrible ACC team. WVU would put 50 points on them easy. NC State is done. Lost to Wake Forest lol....that’s bad. ACC is a joke.
Have you looked at the statistical averages?
You should, especially before throwing insults.
WVU’s pass defense is below average, statistically, and Finley is an NFL QB as exemplified last night with another 375 yard performance
maybe. But our secondary would give up a lot..........
Our pass defense is 70th in the nation right now.
NC St's passing attack is ranked 9th in America in total yards............. and 8th in yards/game
We would have beaten them by a couple of scores. Their defense is worst than Texas.
Didn't realize that NC State has never had a 10 win season nor gone to a major bowl. That's pretty sad.
Phillip Rivers won 11 his last year in 2002. They were good that year. I remember them Beating ND in the Gator that WVU didn't get to go to that year-probably a good thing-cause our pass defense was bad (see tire Bowl).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_NC_State_Wolfpack_football_team
WVU defense gets 3-and-out 1 out of 3 possession. That's not exactly chopped liver. Puts the other team's defense on the field too long which helps Grier & friends.
M agnificent Grier passes shredded Tennessee, 40-14
O verhelmed drenched Youngstown, 52-17
U nable to play North Carolina State because of Hurricane Florence
N asty defense against Kansas State, 35-6
T errific, then timid on offense against Texas Tech, 42-34
A ntsy time for fans, vs. Kansas!, 38-22
I ncomprehensible insanely indescribably inept offense against Iowa State, 14-30
N ailed Baylor, 58-14
E rectile dysfunctioned Texas on 2-point PAT, 42-41
E viscerate TCU
R eam Oklahoma State
S laughter Oklahoma
and here comes the standard "Gibson is a WV boy, and gosh that's just alright" defense.......
meanwhile in actual facts:
Gibson's defense in 2018:
Total Yards Allowed - 25th but missing 1 whole game's worth of yardage
Yards per Game allowed - 49th
Points allowed - 24th but missing 1 whole game's worth of yardage
Points per Game allowed -35th
Passing yards allowed - 44th but missing 1 whole game's worth of yardage
Passing yards per game allowed - 70th
Rushing yards allowed - 22nd but missing 1 whole game's worth of yardage
Rushing yards per game allowed - 36th
our defense is averaging 68 defensive plays a game this season, giving up a 1st down on 3rd downs at just under 40% rate..... doesn't sound bad until you see that our defense gives up a first down on 56% of 4th downs too....
meanwhile in actual facts:
Gibson's defense in 2018:
Total Yards Allowed - 25th but missing 1 whole game's worth of yardage
Yards per Game allowed - 49th
Points allowed - 24th but missing 1 whole game's worth of yardage
Points per Game allowed -35th
Passing yards allowed - 44th but missing 1 whole game's worth of yardage
Passing yards per game allowed - 70th
Rushing yards allowed - 22nd but missing 1 whole game's worth of yardage
Rushing yards per game allowed - 36th
our defense is averaging 68 defensive plays a game this season, giving up a 1st down on 3rd downs at just under 40% rate..... doesn't sound bad until you see that our defense gives up a first down on 56% of 4th downs too....
if you add NC State's season average for yards/game, passing yards/game and rushing yards/game (to simulate the WVU game actually occurring) then this defense would rank:
total yards allowed - 53rd
points allowed - 40th
passing yards allowed - 85th
rushing yards allowed - 36th
total yards allowed - 53rd
points allowed - 40th
passing yards allowed - 85th
rushing yards allowed - 36th
Gee Keaton we know you are dick who went to Pitt and love to troll, you don't have to remind us of that every day.
I won't argue that NC State would move the ball but I think WVU would handle them rather easily.
I've been wrong before, though.
Tony Gibson Defense Rankings:
2014:
Total Yards Allowed - 57th
Yards per Game allowed - 60th
Points allowed - 59th
Points per Game allowed - 62nd
Passing yards allowed - 60th
Rushing yards allowed - 65th
Average - 61st
2015:
Total Yards Allowed - 52nd
Yards per Game allowed - 55th
Points allowed - 38th
Points per Game allowed -39th
Passing yards allowed - 59th
Rushing yards allowed - 58th
Average - 50th
2016:
Total Yards Allowed - 77th
Yards per Game allowed - 79th
Points allowed - 33rd
Points per Game allowed -36th
Passing yards allowed - 98th
Rushing yards allowed - 66th
Average - 65th
2017:
Total Yards Allowed - 104th
Yards per Game allowed - 111th
Points allowed - 92nd
Points per Game allowed -92nd
Passing yards allowed - 97th
Rushing yards allowed - 104th
Average - 100th
I'm sorry Tony Gibson's performance upset you.
Really just stop with the trolling. Because you did not get the attention you thought you deserved in another thread, you had to cut and paste those posts into this thread that has nothing to do with your posts. I have never posted positive or negative about Gibson. You can post what ever you want and it will not upset me. To me you are the prototypical Pitt troll. Nothing more or less. By the way, what did you think of Wesco's performance against UT?
Re-posting stats that are irrelevant to the OP, with the purpose of generating angry responses is trolling. Why cut and paste that here? Because you are trolling and have no clue about being subtle. So what about Wesco? You have trashed this kid all season when ever he took a miss step but are strangely quite after the UT game. LOL
reposting stats towards my previous post =/= trolling.
just admit it...... you don't like what the stats show and you're mad.
just admit it...... you don't like what the stats show and you're mad.
Who loves to troll and went to Pitt. Do my facts make you angry? Enjoy the game tonight.
NC State secondary would have been ate up
It's possible it could be a Big 12 type shootout.
Team Passing Efficiency Defense
WVU 70
NC State 97
Passing Offense
WVU 5
NC State 8
Total Offense
WVU 12
NC State 29
Total Defense
WVU 48
NC State 73
Team Tackles for Loss
WVU 5
NC State 38
Team Passing Efficiency
WVU 3
NC State 27
Scoring Defense
WVU 35 / 22.3
NC State 60 / 25.7
Scoring Offense
WVU 12 / 40.1
NC State 46 / 31.4
I'm confident WVU could beat them.
The strange thing about stats: They don't tell the full story the way the eyeball test does.
Against Texas, for example, the numbers in a 42-41 game don't look good for either team.
But Gibby's defense had TWO great stops inside the 10 with the outcome hanging in the balance. It came through at crucial times.
It stopped another Longhorn drive short by inches.
It did better in the 2nd half than in the 1st half, which means it improved against one of 3 best QBs in the Big 12.
I don't say that because Gibby is a "West Virginia guy." I say that because it happened. When the chips were down, Gibby's guys and Grier and friends together helped save the day.
But those who have other agendas will always point to anything that they think supports their bias.
I will pray for their hate-filled souls.
M agnificent Grier passes shredded Tennessee, 40-14
O verhelmed drenched Youngstown, 52-17
U nable to play North Carolina State because of Hurricane Florence
N asty defense against Kansas State, 35-6
T errific, then timid on offense against Texas Tech, 42-34
A ntsy time for fans, vs. Kansas!, 38-22
I ncomprehensible insanely indescribably inept offense against Iowa State, 14-30
N ailed Baylor, 58-14
E rectile dysfunctioned Texas on 2-point PAT, 42-41
E viscerate TCU
R eam Oklahoma State
S laughter Oklahoma
Against Texas, for example, the numbers in a 42-41 game don't look good for either team.
But Gibby's defense had TWO great stops inside the 10 with the outcome hanging in the balance. It came through at crucial times.
It stopped another Longhorn drive short by inches.
It did better in the 2nd half than in the 1st half, which means it improved against one of 3 best QBs in the Big 12.
I don't say that because Gibby is a "West Virginia guy." I say that because it happened. When the chips were down, Gibby's guys and Grier and friends together helped save the day.
But those who have other agendas will always point to anything that they think supports their bias.
I will pray for their hate-filled souls.
M agnificent Grier passes shredded Tennessee, 40-14
O verhelmed drenched Youngstown, 52-17
U nable to play North Carolina State because of Hurricane Florence
N asty defense against Kansas State, 35-6
T errific, then timid on offense against Texas Tech, 42-34
A ntsy time for fans, vs. Kansas!, 38-22
I ncomprehensible insanely indescribably inept offense against Iowa State, 14-30
N ailed Baylor, 58-14
E rectile dysfunctioned Texas on 2-point PAT, 42-41
E viscerate TCU
R eam Oklahoma State
S laughter Oklahoma
The eyeball test lacks validation for the eyeballs
And speaking of “context”
On one drive, the only thing that stopped Texas was a chin strap
Something that isn’t contextual....
Texas’ QB is not one of the three best in the B12
Murray - Ok
Grier - WVU
Cornelius - OSU
Bowman - TTU
all in the top 15 in CFB
And speaking of “context”
On one drive, the only thing that stopped Texas was a chin strap
Something that isn’t contextual....
Texas’ QB is not one of the three best in the B12
Murray - Ok
Grier - WVU
Cornelius - OSU
Bowman - TTU
all in the top 15 in CFB
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Except he was down before he got the first down. It was going to be overturned anyway. LOL
No he wasn’t...... that’s why they moved it back when he lost his helmet
We all know how bad NC State is and was. WVU would have blown them away. Football in NC sucks. Pro and college football in NC suck. The Stillers proved that last night. A couple crappy NC teams getting exposed badly. Dump trucked!!!!!
You could watch the replay. He was down and it was a bad spot. Just another thing you are wrong about.
The first spot was wrong. His helmet came off, then he was down before the line to gain. By rule he was down when his helmet came off. You could watch the replay but it does not fit your agenda Pitt boy.
Then what were you arguing? The OP was about regretting not getting a shot at NCSU since they have not played great all season and looks to have been a good chance to pick up a win. Seems you make a nebulous statement that you do not tie into the OP conversation. When it ruffles feathers, you still do not clarify but rather argue smugly about semantics. Honestly, all you had to do was just say what you meant rather than reeling when your statement gets a bite. Makes it pretty obvious that smugly arguing is your goal.