What the Big XII needs...

[TheOneandOnly77]

CFB has turned into a conference war...
Even with that teams should handle their business. Ohio St?
You can't lose by double digits twice and expect to get into the CFP

Here are the important games from a conference standpoint.
If the Big XII goes undefeated expect a chance if everything plays out correctly to have 2 CFP spots.

Texas Tech vs Ole Miss
Texas vs USC
TCU vs Ohio St
Baylor vs Duke
Oklahoma vs UCLA
Oklahoma St vs Boise State
Kansas St vs Miss State
Iowa St vs Iowa
West Virginia vs Tennessee
West Virginia vs NC State

 

[TheUnKosherHebrew]

To get rid of Baylor?

 

[TheTruthof2018]

If you win out and you are in a Major Conference you get in.

Do not remember the last time there were more than 3 undefeated P5 or BCS conference teams.

2004 and 2009 were the only years with three that I can remember.

In 2009 Cincinnati wasn't truthfully undefeated as they played no one

 

[DrinkmoreMilk]

To drink more milk..

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Every unbeaten Power 5 team has made the national playoffs. That won't change. So, there's the first brass ring to grab. Then there's no debate. Otherwise, it then depends on how much halo your team has. Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, OK. WVU, maybe not. So, go 12-0, win the Big 12 title game and the problem is solved.

 

[TexasTrill2018]

Every unbeaten Power 5 team has made the national playoffs. That won't change. So, there's the first brass ring to grab. Then there's no debate. Otherwise, it then depends on how much halo your team has. Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, OK. WVU, maybe not. So, go 12-0, win the Big 12 title game and the problem is solved.

Excellent point
Take care of your business.
People in general should follow that motto.
Don't worry about anyone and never place blame on anything.

Since a football program is a collection of men any program with dreams and desires of winning a NC should understand this.

 

[Beechurst]

Excellent point
Take care of your business.
People in general should follow that motto.
Don't worry about anyone and never place blame on anything.

Since a football program is a collection of men any program with dreams and desires of winning a NC should understand this.

All true. But, the playoff committee renders winning any power or lesser conference meaningless. If a conference championship does not earn a team the right to keep playing, GET RID OF CONFERENCES - all those little anachronistic fiefdoms that exist merely to preen, posture and drain millions of salary dollars for...NOTHING. Does each NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL division have or need a millionaire commissioner and bloated staff? Conferences are now arbitrary associations seemingly destined to exist in perpetuity, solely to extract maximum dollars even though the old paradigm is long gone. Texas made its own ESPN deal. Why does it need conference membership? Only because custom demands illusory conference fealty.

College football needs to ensure teams a chance to win a playoff berth on the field without going undefeated or being a blueblood/desirable/marketable media darling. How many undefeated Super Bowl champs have there been? How many 6- or more loss wild card champs? Didn't Marshall have 3 losses during an AA championship year? Was it mocked as 'undeserved'? The BCS structure DID make winning a conference title meaningful. But alas, the Herbstreits of the world publicly and ceaselessly decried the early elimination of too many bluebloods, frothing to see BCS rematches of Ohio State-Michigan and Alabama-LSU, rather than an undesirable, 'unworthy' Big East champ such as West Virginia. Never mind that WVU went 3-0 in the BCS, beating the SEC, ACC and Big 12 champs...the notion of winning on the field was far too dangerous, and could not be allowed to stand. Why should not the winner of a blueblood REMATCH be declared champion? Who cares if its victim had won the first meeting! That's ancient history - what is important is that two hypeable teams got on prime time TWICE!

The NCAA needs only 1 football commissioner, divisions, non-division games selected by computer/power rankings and a sensible, limited playoff structure. Get conference and shill talking head politics OUT of determining who gets a shot to be champion. The committee concept sucks, by definition.

 

[TexasisBack_rivals426937]

Capitalism is great.
College sports is driven by capitalism.
Problem with conferences is how revenue is created and how bigger name universities share their revenue with the smaller schools.
Very collective.

With third tier rights Texas has been able to create a 30 million dollar revenue gap in college football.
This gap is growing every year.

The narrative that Texas is suffering is totally false. The schools leaving the Big XII actually helped Texas and therefore helped the Big XII.



Regarding West Virginia. WVU needs to position themselves as an equal to OU and Texas. TCU and Oklahoma St are their main competition.

With the coaching in Norman and Austin plus the energy and recruiting this conference is positioning itself in a great position to have one maybe two CFP teams a year.

Truthfully it will be the Big XII/SEC and ACC fighting it out for the spots.
The other two conferences because they lack ESPN in their corner will fall.

 

[TheOneandOnly77]

If everyone was independent CFB would become boring and schools like WVU would never compete.

You need conferences.
Either 4 16 team Super Conferences
Or
8 8 team Conferences based on 8 regions

Pacific
Interior West
Upper Midwest
Great Lakes/Northeast
Appalachia
Atlantic
Southeast
Southwest

The 64th team will be either ND or Wake.

So pretty much ND and then drop Wake Forest to a lower level

 

[eerdoc]

If everyone was independent CFB would become boring and schools like WVU would never compete.

You need conferences.
Either 4 16 team Super Conferences
Or
8 8 team Conferences based on 8 regions

Pacific
Interior West
Upper Midwest
Great Lakes/Northeast
Appalachia
Atlantic
Southeast
Southwest

The 64th team will be either ND or Wake.

So pretty much ND and then drop Wake Forest to a lower level

Wake Forest is already at a lower level. They just happen to be dragged along with their bigger siblings as if they belonged (but only as a nearly automatic win that gives the appearance of an accomplishment over a peer. Hardly deserving of their assigned (definitely not earned) position).

 

[oceantide83]

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

You ever been to $tarkvega$
Do not need anymore cowbell.
Miss State is like a generic version of Texas A&M but with better football and baseball

If they play WVU they might bring back Jackie and try to cut the balls off of a Mountaineer.

Do not need that

 

[Beechurst]

If everyone was independent CFB would become boring and schools like WVU would never compete.

You need conferences.
Either 4 16 team Super Conferences
Or
8 8 team Conferences based on 8 regions

Pacific
Interior West
Upper Midwest
Great Lakes/Northeast
Appalachia
Atlantic
Southeast
Southwest

The 64th team will be either ND or Wake.

So pretty much ND and then drop Wake Forest to a lower level

Oh...you mean four or eight divisions -- the champions of which will move on to a playoff? What a great idea. Now you're getting it. You can call them conferences if it feels more natural. Divisions also works.

But conferences might allow unecessary, millionaire lip-service commissioners and mini-hierarchies. I see.

 

[88rocco]

Just win OOC games.

 

[TheOneandOnly77]

Oh...you mean four or eight divisions -- the champions of which will move on to a playoff? What a great idea. Now you're getting it. You can call them conferences if it feels more natural. Divisions also works.

But conferences might allow unecessary, millionaire lip-service commissioners and mini-hierarchies. I see.

The Power Conference idea is complex but it is the best possibility.

Who goes where is very difficult to comprehended unless the elite schools of the ACC, PAC 12, Big XII and ND make one National Conference.

The 8 8 team division will force some rivalries to end but will also bring others back.
The only certain division would be the recreation of the PAC 8.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Put 8 teams in. Problem solved.

 

[TheOneandOnly77]

8 teams would be a stretch unless you can cut conference championship games out of the picture.

It is too much of a money maker for certain conferences like the SEC, Big XII and B1G.

Why reward a team who loses 2-3 games.
Last year it would have been
4 CFP teams
Ohio St
Wisconsin
USC
Auburn

All 4 of those teams did not deserve another chance
You are taking the excitement out of CFB.

 

[JustCallMeDad]

What the Big XII needs.....

Iowa St- To be good at something besides gay foreplay

Kansas St- To tell Skeletor it is time to go

Kansas- To be Kansas fans and not just Kansas BB fans

Oklahoma St- To tell Mike Gundy men do not have mullets anymore

Oklahoma- To get better looking cheerleaders

Tech- Tell Coach Biff that he is not in college anymore

TCU- Stop complaining about 2014
National Finalist???? WTF

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCU_Horned_Frogs_football

Baylor- Stop raping coeds.

Texas- To spread the wealth
Every man a King like Huey Long used to say

West Virginia- Stop playing flag football.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

CFB has turned into a conference war...
Even with that teams should handle their business. Ohio St?
You can't lose by double digits twice and expect to get into the CFP

Here are the important games from a conference standpoint.
If the Big XII goes undefeated expect a chance if everything plays out correctly to have 2 CFP spots.

Texas Tech vs Ole Miss
Texas vs USC
TCU vs Ohio St
Baylor vs Duke
Oklahoma vs UCLA
Oklahoma St vs Boise State
Kansas St vs Miss State
Iowa St vs Iowa
West Virginia vs Tennessee
West Virginia vs NC State

How many of those games are against Top 10-15 teams? Maybe two. What the hell are those games you listed gonna prove. You Big12 homers are adorable. You literally listed 7 doormats a decent NC State and probably two To 15 teams OSU and USC.

Swing and miss Texass geek

 

[Pitt4Life34]

If you win out and you are in a Major Conference you get in.

Do not remember the last time there were more than 3 undefeated P5 or BCS conference teams.

2004 and 2009 were the only years with three that I can remember.

In 2009 Cincinnati wasn't truthfully undefeated as they played no one

They beat Pitt dude. Did you forget.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Every unbeaten Power 5 team has made the national playoffs. That won't change. So, there's the first brass ring to grab. Then there's no debate. Otherwise, it then depends on how much halo your team has. Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, OK. WVU, maybe not. So, go 12-0, win the Big 12 title game and the problem is solved.

Haves and have nots. First three you listed are Haves.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

If everyone was independent CFB would become boring and schools like WVU would never compete.

You need conferences.
Either 4 16 team Super Conferences
Or
8 8 team Conferences based on 8 regions

Pacific
Interior West
Upper Midwest
Great Lakes/Northeast
Appalachia
Atlantic
Southeast
Southwest

The 64th team will be either ND or Wake.

So pretty much ND and then drop Wake Forest to a lower level

Sweet this crap again

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Just win OOC games.

And go 6-3 in Big 12. That should do it.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

They beat Pitt dude. Did you forget.

You still think beating Pitt makes you relevant is entertaining.
Not saying 2009 Pitt was horrible but Pitt the program that people in their 50's know is not the Pitt that anyone under the age of 40 knows.

Beating Pitt in 1984 was something to celebrate but once Penn St made the move to the B1G it was over for them

Y'all are the ones to blame.
Lack of fan support
Lack of alumni involvement
Keeping Penn St out of the Big East.

Everyone here understands why you are so bitter. It pretty much is Pitt's fault.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

You still think beating Pitt makes you relevant is entertaining.
Not saying 2009 Pitt was horrible but Pitt the program that people in their 50's know is not the Pitt that anyone under the age of 40 knows.

Beating Pitt in 1984 was something to celebrate but once Penn St made the move to the B1G it was over for them

Y'all are the ones to blame.
Lack of fan support
Lack of alumni involvement
Keeping Penn St out of the Big East.

Everyone here understands why you are so bitter. It pretty much is Pitt's fault.

How’d I know this post was coming? Because you’re my puppet Texass.

 

[TheTruthof2018]

How’d I know this post was coming? Because you’re my puppet Texass.

If that makes you feel any better about yourself than go ahead and believe what you want

 

[WVUALLEN]

What it needs is..Love sweet love.

 

[TheOneandOnly77]

Big XII needs to play more cupcakes like Pitt again.

Oklahoma St has them beat before the first quarter was over last year